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    Arrow there are more things in heaven and earth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by existencebeyondexperience View Post
    My thing is that I hold no obligation to anything or anyone because I was put here without my own permission. (...)
    Why not holding to the sensible words of ThreeWolves,

    I find it hard to believe that anyone could be on this planet without in some way agreeing to it.
    at least, until proven or disproven...

    Anyway, perhaps the following picture may allow some further reflection, kheper.net/topics/reincarnation/RF_a_life_cycle.jpg

    Kind regards.
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    I never bought into the idea that I'd signed or signified anything to the order of being here voluntarily, and surely if I did it was under duress, unless people as a whole would like to start agreeing with and believing most of the things I tell them, in which case the great majority of things I do believe, or have in the past believed (at least to some extent) which I've been told are flatly impossible, actually are the correct viewpoint. I find this unlikely, hence I also find it unlikely I would have been born on this world by my own will from another layer of reality - especially given the way things have gone if my lifetime is viewed as a line of events.

    I do believe in reincarnation, though I don't like it - but the fact is that it's either that, or humanity is significantly more limited in scope than any of us tell ourselves we are. If it's not reincarnation then there are about four or five possible personalities, reproduced among quite several billion too many of us.

    In other words, if I chose to be here, then I am God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by existencebeyondexperience View Post
    In other words, if I chose to be here, then I am God.
    By making choices we experience, learn and grow. Yet your reasoning is faulty, my friend; although we have been created in His image, differentiated within God Himself as "sparks from a Flame", our current evolving stage is known to be "human", with all the imperfections and frailty we are acquainted with.

    9But, as it is written,
    "What no eye has seen, nor ear heard,
    nor the heart of man imagined,
    what God has prepared for those who love him"—
    10these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit.

    Tough Love

    Humans:
    O God, what should we
    do?
    God:
    Use the mind Iīve given you.
    Humans:
    But
    which paths rise and
    which fall?

    God:
    Experiment. You īll
    find
    the law.

    Humans:
    Our burdens are heavy
    all life
    long.

    God:
    I challenge you make
    you
    strong.

    Humans :
    Life is hard, with
    pain
    beset.

    God:
    When laws you break,
    Thatīs what you
    get.

    Humans:
    We are afraid, we may
    not
    survive.

    God:
    Whatever happens, your
    spirit will
    thrive.

    Humans:
    And in the end, what
    will we
    become?

    God:
    Glorious gods with
    creative
    wisdom.



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    If one is part of one, then one equals one.
    You wake up and immediately notice your former opponent's cadaver wearing your clothes, and then gradually it dawns on you that you are dressed in somebody else's clothes, and the last thing you remembered was this guy killing you, and not the other way around.
    You head for the door to accomplish what you already have, for the very first time ever.
    'Kull Wahad!'

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    else one is both one and not-one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeWolves View Post
    The Rosicrucian teachings enable people to find themselves, turn their lives, and influence the universe. We are educators, students, and seekers devoted to exploring inner wisdom and the meaning of life. We offer an ancient time-tested system of study and experimentation which reveals the underlying principles of the universe. Our method offers practical tools applicable to all aspects of life. The Rosicrucian teachings allow individuals to direct their own lives, experience inner peace, and leave their mark on humanity.

    The ancient Mystery Schools served as spiritual centers in the ancient world, educating students in natural laws and principles so they could better live in harmony with them; encouraging introspection in order to know one's self; and engendering within a feeling of connection with the Great Mystery of the Universe.


    AMORC
    The Natural Laws and principles
    included the Psychic Abilities,
    according to my Roseicrucian
    friends. They delighted in
    my knowing, that the symbol of
    their philosophy was a Gateway
    to other dimensions.
    be in harmony,
    be in beauty
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    Quote Originally Posted by existencebeyondexperience View Post
    I never bought into the idea that I'd signed or signified anything to the order of being here voluntarily, and surely if I did it was under duress, unless people as a whole would like to start agreeing with and believing most of the things I tell them, in which case the great majority of things I do believe, or have in the past believed (at least to some extent) which I've been told are flatly impossible, actually are the correct viewpoint. I find this unlikely, hence I also find it unlikely I would have been born on this world by my own will from another layer of reality - especially given the way things have gone if my lifetime is viewed as a line of events.

    I do believe in reincarnation, though I don't like it - but the fact is that it's either that, or humanity is significantly more limited in scope than any of us tell ourselves we are. If it's not reincarnation then there are about four or five possible personalities, reproduced among quite several billion too many of us.

    In other words, if I chose to be here, then I am God.
    Existance,
    Would you settle to be a god in training to be a God?
    That being on earth as a human, is part of your training?
    That is what I was told
    by Buddha's White Light in 1952,
    when at the Kamakura [sp?] Bronze Buddha in Japan.
    www.WasAPsychicChild.com
    see video #13. [10 min 43 sec] for the full story.

    Be in harmony,
    be in beauty
    roger/PC
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    The poetry of life and death lie within the process.

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    First Wave
    Thank You
    These are many of the teachings
    The Guardian presented to me during
    my psychic ability training as a 2-1/2
    year old psychic child. I never knew
    their full rational or basis of this philosophy.
    Thank you again.

    Be in harmony,
    be in beauty.
    PC
    is roger

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    Rosicrucians limit spiritual growth, another box. As wide as the heavens and the earths, to be limited in the mind is to stay in the box. One needs to go 'out of your mind', outside the box of your mind towards a place of no mind. When you explore a place of no mind then spiritual growth and conscious expansion are certain. For the near realms and dimensions are creations of the mind, anything outside the mind is indescribable and no longer an illusion of the mind.

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    Arcturian . . . . . .
    I do have much to learn,
    but I did not get that understanding.

    Rosicrucians believe in practicing what they
    believe, not just giving lip service to belief.
    The only restriction is benevolent use.
    This philosophy is in accordance with the oldest
    of the philosophies before the abilities were
    restricted to an elite few.

    I believe, therefor I can do.
    I do, therefor I can believe.

    Be in harmony,
    be in beauty.
    PC
    is roger
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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstWave View Post
    Cool :P

    Blissfulheart has a couple threads about all this.

    Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Child View Post
    Rosicrucians believe in practicing what they
    believe, not just giving lip service to belief.
    No, that is all they do, give lip service to belief. It is done knowingly.

    It means a place of no mind is Samadhi and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcturian View Post
    Rosicrucians limit spiritual growth, another box. As wide as the heavens and the earths, to be limited in the mind is to stay in the box. One needs to go 'out of your mind', outside the box of your mind towards a place of no mind. When you explore a place of no mind then spiritual growth and conscious expansion are certain. For the near realms and dimensions are creations of the mind, anything outside the mind is indescribable and no longer an illusion of the mind.
    Well said. I see alot of people try to find 'comfort' inside of their boxes often, more need to come out to expand what they know.. One by one, more will decide upon their own decision to 'come out' of their box and go 'outside' of it to explore and see what its like outside.. its a change thats needed. The boxes only show limits, bein outside them is limitless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapideus View Post
    By making choices we experience, learn and grow. Yet your reasoning is faulty, my friend; although we have been created in His image, differentiated within God Himself as "sparks from a Flame", our current evolving stage is known to be "human", with all the imperfections and frailty we are acquainted with.

    9But, as it is written,
    "What no eye has seen, nor ear heard,
    nor the heart of man imagined,
    what God has prepared for those who love him"—
    10these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit.

    Tough Love

    Humans:
    O God, what should we
    do?
    God:
    Use the mind Iīve given you.
    Humans:
    But
    which paths rise and
    which fall?

    God:
    Experiment. You īll
    find
    the law.

    Humans:
    Our burdens are heavy
    all life
    long.

    God:
    I challenge you make
    you
    strong.

    Humans :
    Life is hard, with
    pain
    beset.

    God:
    When laws you break,
    Thatīs what you
    get.

    Humans:
    We are afraid, we may
    not
    survive.

    God:
    Whatever happens, your
    spirit will
    thrive.

    Humans:
    And in the end, what
    will we
    become?

    God:
    Glorious gods with
    creative
    wisdom.
    The law would be to be patient.. and the law will not break. When one lacks it they're unable to see the law that they're able to see. That itself is an experience.In which are very much needed.

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    in Cosmic Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTIKDRAGON View Post
    The law would be to be patient.. and the law will not break. When one lacks it they're unable to see the law that they're able to see. That itself is an experience.In which are very much needed.
    Thank you; your remark has been duly noted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcturian View Post
    No, that is all they do, give lip service to belief. It is done knowingly. (...)
    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTIKDRAGON View Post
    Well said. (...)
    Whatever your grievances may be, dear ones, rest assured that

    You sow what you reap.
    You get what you seek.

    All thatīs good will endure.
    All will grow to be pure.

    Hate sees only night.
    Love kindles the LIGHT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapideus View Post
    Thank you; your remark has been duly noted.





    Whatever your grievances may be, dear ones, rest assured that

    You sow what you reap.
    You get what you seek.

    All thatīs good will endure.
    All will grow to be pure.

    Hate sees only night.
    Love kindles the LIGHT.

    Love gives light, becuz it creates the opposite of what 'night' does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapideus View Post
    Whatever your grievances may be, dear ones, rest assured that
    You misunderstood what I am saying. The particular teaching is created in such a way that once you reach a certain point, it is watered down and you rarely receive reconnection with your truest potential. Maybe at the beginning when they started they were more sincere, today it is a former glory.
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    in spirit and in truth

    @Arcturian et all,

    All in all, an idle and vain crying.

    BUT, should you by now be aware not to be blinded with the glittering of gold and IF you earnestly aspire to attain to the understanding and knowledge of the true Philosophy of the Rosicrucians ~ No other Philosophy we have, than that which is the head and sum, the foundations and contents of all faculties, sciences, and arts ~ then please let the mind of the little and shy kid i once was to guide you: i wished then, as strongly as i do now, that all the "grown up people", in order to improve themselves and build a better and brighter world, could learn from the Compassionate Ones, beyond human evolution, there, overseeing the Rose Cross of Mount Ecclesia.

    Peace and good will.

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    I was once a member, I left because I intuitively understood their limitations.
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