What is to you the difference between awakening and enlightenment?
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What is to you the difference between awakening and enlightenment?
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What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible
"To love for the sake of being loved is human, but to love for the sake of loving is Angelic." ~Alphonse de Lamartine
"The quality of the love you receive mirrors the value you place on yourself." ~Plejaren
Nobody can control you or make you feel inferior without your consent.
Therefore, awakening is only the beginning, where one begins the journey and comes to several more "enlightened" ideas about themselves."a·wak·en·ing - (n.) a recognition, realization, or coming into awareness of something"
"en·light·en·ment - (n)the state of being enlightened"
"enlightened - adj 1: highly educated; having extensive information or understanding; "an enlightened public"; "knowing instructors"; "a knowledgeable critic"; "a knowledgeable audience" [syn: knowing, knowledgeable, learned, lettered, well-educated, well-read]
2: having knowledge and spiritual insight; [ant: unenlightened]
3: freed from illusion [syn: disillusioned]
4: having or based on relevant experience; "an educated guess"; "an enlightened electorate" [syn: educated] n : people who have been introduced to the mysteries of some field or activity; "it is very familiar to the initiate" [syn: initiate] [ant: uninitiate]"
Enlightenment is something that happens both concurrently and processing with and from awakening.
Therefore, realizing that you are an indigo can be considered an awakening, while what you learn about being an indigo, your mission, and how to fulfill it is considered enlightenment.
To me, we go through many types of awakening and enlightenment, as there are many parts of ourself hidden from our own awareness.
~Cebren
**Quotes from Dictionary.com
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Thank you for your reply.Originally Posted by Cebren Girinis
I'm speaking of the Buddha state. The Great Enlightenment. I'll post my answer later on.
What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible
"To love for the sake of being loved is human, but to love for the sake of loving is Angelic." ~Alphonse de Lamartine
"The quality of the love you receive mirrors the value you place on yourself." ~Plejaren
Nobody can control you or make you feel inferior without your consent.
Ahh. Well then that changes everything.I look forward to hearing it.
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This is a very good website on enlightenment in the Zen tradition that I have used frequently over the years. It has been good to refer to at times of question or for clarification on a certain experience:
http://wanderling.tripod.com/40test01.html
Electra
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I like to think I awakened to re-member I had been enlightened.
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Awakening.
By Mark Stearn.
Casting off my cloak of sleep
I will dream no longer,
For the sun inside me
Filters through my tired eyes.
The fire inside me consumes us all
The Light within remakes all anew…
I will dream no longer
And know that we are the beginning
As we are the end…
Dreaming no more,
For I know
I am more
Than I have ever dared to dream.
A time for growth
A time for beginnings
Casting off sorrows
And embracing the new morning.
It has been forever written by us
That our hearts would find the truth
That speaks stronger than this world
Could ever dare to try and hide.
I will dream no more,
The dawn has arrived…
What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible
"To love for the sake of being loved is human, but to love for the sake of loving is Angelic." ~Alphonse de Lamartine
"The quality of the love you receive mirrors the value you place on yourself." ~Plejaren
Nobody can control you or make you feel inferior without your consent.
What is Enlightenment?
Enlightenment is not linguistic.
It is not taught by altering conceptual beliefs.
It is not perceiving the physical world differently.
It is a core transformation.
Where identification ceases.
The persona you had is revealed as an accessory.
You may keep it or trade it in.
Some of it remains.
After Enlightenment the body remains.
The physical world full of pain, suffering and people still exists.
Those people are not enlightened.
Are not yet awake.
Awakening is simply becoming aware of something.
It is not freedom.
Unless it is discovering the illusory self.
Freedom from that is Enlightenment.
Enlightenment is the most important awakening.
It reveals that you are not a physical human being.
But the physical world is real.
As is your physical body.
Which is on loan.
For awhile.
Discovering the illusion of the persona
Is a nightmare
Without the resting in bliss
Of that which is beyond
The persona
There are safe and unsafe ways
To discover that which is
All realisations have a trickle down effect
Are your lower parts
Ready for that which your higher parts
Might impart?
Most people live active lives of denial
The basic truth is obvious
because it is experientially apparent
as well as philosophically
Philosophy without experience
Can drive you mad
It reveals an oasis
But surely you know that it is a mirage
In the desert of your mind
All levels speak of that
which is beyond
But only when speaking stops
However that is not the end
Because the body remains
Complex mechanism that it is
A multi-faceted layered energy exchange
The body exists in a world of things
And relationships
Till his dying day the Buddha
Still taught
To awaken and enlighten
Because the world is not that perfect
Enlightenment is not the end
But the start
What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible
"To love for the sake of being loved is human, but to love for the sake of loving is Angelic." ~Alphonse de Lamartine
"The quality of the love you receive mirrors the value you place on yourself." ~Plejaren
Nobody can control you or make you feel inferior without your consent.
The Way is always uncontrived. Yet there's nothing it doesn't do. -- Tao te Ching
I like that too!
I liked that explanation very much Prometheus.
Since my experience I love Buddhism, Taoism, and Sufism.
I think awakening is when we start to realize that something isn't right and has many stages until we become enlightened.
Enlightenment, I think, has many stages also. The first being realizing the self, I think the Hindu term is Atman (maybe in Buddhism also). I would say enlightenment is self realization. When the real self is present the inner conflict is subsided. With that conflict finally over we can begin the path to full realization since the self is known and no longer confused.
So exciting.
Wonderful.
awakening implies the use of the mind. it implies the movement of consious awareness from one arena of perception to another, likely a larger, greater.
enlightment does not. this implies a total change of being, at every level. its funda-mental.
we all know the meaning of the word 'mental', i found it interesting to find that 'fund' comes from the latin word 'fundus' meaning bottom or source.
so maybe if awakening is a change in the mind, enlightenment is a change of the soul.
Finding Prometheus's posts are always a pleasure
“What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if,when you awoke,you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?”
― Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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Enlightenment is the realisation which brings about the end of suffering.
Awakening is the process of realisation of spiritual truth which leads you to know who you are, and who you are not, which culminates in a that realisation and end of suffering.
Be here, Be Now.
Awakening was the moment I recognized god in myself.
Enlightenment was the moment I recognized god in you.
" All the problems of the world can be solved with a garden." Geoff Lawton
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without love I won't survive...
There is a cat in a box suspended in superposition, just hanging there untill we get it.
She told us to overlook semantic superstition of this and that,
Chill the constant chatter as words debilitates will into concepts of matter,
Sensory reciprocality will usher in the void of we.
Birth Vs Progression
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i awoke when i opened my eyes and was enlighted when i closed them back to see beyond
Nice!
GUS bless you
(God, Universe, Source)
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