shadow play

[anomoly]

like light casts is shadow the living are bound by death evil is cast by good. the univers ballences itsself out with these things. like a circle turning in on its self the yen and yang flow constantly not oposit but simply products of eachother with out light no shadow without life no death without good no evil . so are the primal forces really oposits or just simply parts of the whole of every thing. each addint of its own to the world in which we live. Just somt thoughts that have been buggin the hell out of me lately. thought id pour em out here and see what you guys make of it... hope to get some feed back. nothing inparticular just somthing.

[sshenry]

interesting somethings, thank you!

[FreeSpeak]

I went through that.. almost a lesson in Zen...

My conclusion?

The Balance... that's all there is.

Had it down real well, too!
Then this chick comes along................

So I changed my Final Theorum;
Love.... that's all there is.

That's all there is.

♥

[sshenry]

Would the light be appreciated without the shadow?

[anomoly]

would we even know light without shadow? or space without the stars?

[defuzz]

what bothers me at the yin yang is its 2 dimentional, but is so nice and simple to deliberate order into the self replicatable chaos.
ligth is order, dark is feminine, ligth is dark and dark is chaos, its a divining map driven by intuition/subscribtion . abstraction of awareness.

i havent studied zen in this lifetime, what is the outside and how does it move accordingly?

rise&fall/push&pull in a reciprocal exchange but on an evolving spiral axis wobbled by the outside (intuitive/ nothingness/ god ?), if just 1 axis can do it?

http://indigosociety.com/sacred-chao-t4773.html?t=4773&

[Cyberstoned]

I have never studied zen, I come to my undestandings without seeking 'the divine' or seeking in other religious factions. I feel that when I was younger, I was brainwashed. I don't feel of this planet, so some thoughts I don't feel even belong to this planet/world/realm.

If you ask me, dark and light are both in the same, I agree, some sort of balance. Because a dark creature can performs acts of light (compassion), same as light creatures can perform acts of darkness (killing).

I don't feel that humans have the right to put judgement forth as to what is good or evil, as others have said. After all, humans are rather primitive to all the vastness out there, and I feel like I am trapped here (Maybe this is my own race's version of hell? LOL), who knows.

One of my guides are demons, yet he has compassion and he cares and helps. Aren't these all traits of an angel? Well he has emphatically told me he is a demon, or maybe what I was brought up to understand as a demon. How do you know demons aren't aliens to this planet also? How do you know angels aren't? Doesn't the bible say itself, that Christ came to people on a silver something or other (Hello, UFO).

Just a thought Tell me yours, I am curious to meet others with like mindedness

[anomoly]

brain washed what who?? me?? hell yeah!! but i broke out of it... there is no God only work...only WORK!! never studied zen but sounds interesting. i was just getting stuff off my mind. Sun is warm grass is green daniel san. Im not compleetly sold on the whole UFO thing yet. but thats just me lol.

[Cyberstoned]

lol I am sold I think just because I have seen UFOs. The one over Reading back in 1989 was true, I saw it with my own 2 eyes. I can stil ldescribe it to a T, because it was that fantastic. Ok, yes, I was 8, but like I said, I knew things from before I knew what was going on lol (Knowing before knowing HAHA! Figure that one out :P)

And brainwashed? I think I was in all actuality. And a lot of it had to do with my mom. She thought she was a witch, my dad a warlock, and out popped me and my older half sister (different dads). She is Wiccan. I on the other know, know it all exists, but I don't or cannot classify myself under any particular religion because I haven't seen one that I would fit into lol...

[anomoly]

never said u wernt infact i bealieve the brain washing part i struggled with it too the drugs classes on how to "be normal" trust me i know it happens. glad your getting out from under it

[Cyberstoned]

I been fighting a lot with getting out of it. I will forever blame my mother, because she is the one who wanted me to get rid of my telepathy at such a young age.

I will never conform to human society! HAHA! (Ok that was a funky outburst, but I ain't erasing it lol)

[ZZ23]

One cannot exist without the other-

In the great battle between good and evil- Niether will ever truly win because t truly win one would have to destroy the other, and once on is destroyed all is destroyed-

The shadow dances on the wall,
Cast by the fireside light,
Yet for all to fall,
IN the wonderful Night,

For you see,
All must exist through harmony,
When one grain is dislodged,
How quickly the pile falls.

CJ-

[ZZ23]

lol I am sold I think just because I have seen UFOs. The one over Reading back in 1989 was true, I saw it with my own 2 eyes. I can stil ldescribe it to a T, because it was that fantastic. Ok, yes, I was 8, but like I said, I knew things from before I knew what was going on lol (Knowing before knowing HAHA! Figure that one out :P)

And brainwashed? I think I was in all actuality. And a lot of it had to do with my mom. She thought she was a witch, my dad a warlock, and out popped me and my older half sister (different dads). She is Wiccan. I on the other know, know it all exists, but I don't or cannot classify myself under any particular religion because I haven't seen one that I would fit into lol...

Well whats funny about the ufo thing, my dads dads family is from new mexico- Roswell, I found out sunday, more importantly they were there during the Ufo Crash, and my great uncle was a Captain on the base, which makles me wonder, if all these ufo sightings are actully tracing the same family lines,
in every generation, i was whatever u want to call it abducted- taken w/e it doesnt matter to me- by whats called a zeta, i dont rember what happened the whole time i just remeber certain parts.

CJ-

[Cyberstoned]

My mother still has an unexplainable metal in her head.... makes me wonder too lol... And I am being serious. I don't know if I was abducte, but I am positive my soul ain't from here (Know too much about the cosmos to questioni t )

[anomoly]

how did good ane evil get turned to aliean obductions??? i guess it just karma. lol

[Cyberstoned]

I guess it's cause I threw in there about the alien thing and how I view good and evil as both can be wrong and both can be right, I guess it is just what one fights for. Because as I said before, good can kill, which makes them evil, no? And evil can care, which makes them good... It's so confusing!

[freedom]

heya cyberstoned...i feel ya. i can see good in everything, but i can also see bad in everything. but i feel comfortable with both aspects. god knows i am full of both myself. i can heal a stranger on the roadside but i could easily kill someone i love. is that wrong. of course i have to control these feelings but they surface without me having the chance to know they are coming. of course i am made of love but these bad feelings do come along. and i know we all have them. there is not a soul come here that has not lost their temper. so i dont know if the man made lable of bad is what it should be termed as. its part of what we are. i can picture our universal lords losing their tempers, hurtling comets and black holes at each other. is it wrong. and how far can it be taken. yup yup yup!!! leaves you very confused. LOVE

[Cyberstoned]

That is why I will sit back with this spiritual war coming/going/happening. Because I don't feel I am a warrior of that type. Hell I don't feel like a warrior at all, and I feel it's my business to stand back and watch.

If good can be bad and bad can be good, who's fighting what war and why? What is the point if we are ALL wrong and we are ALL good.. Just I think others take roads that lead them further to the darker side of things, and yes, I have gone down that road too. It has left me without my guides, as I actually had to apologize to Gary for what i had done. It is a long story, but it has to do with an area in NH that I was warned against going, but went out of curiosity. I had been attacked by something and Gary and TC had both fled. I knew I had done something wrong, and it is not above me to apologize to other worldy beings, including my guides.

So who is good and who is bad? Who is the one to say which is which? You know the 'bad' guys are saying they are the right ones and that the 'good' guys are the bad ones. Who wins??

omg.. babbling again... I'll shut up lol

[freedom]

babbling is the process that leads to clarity so babble away but i must say, i dont believe we are meant to know what is wrong and right except for ourselves in our own life lesson circles. otherwise why would we born with such limited usage of intelligence and other aspect of living. so, u know what, lets save the energy for something we DO know and get on with it. LOVE

[Zen O]

Darkness is simply the absence of light. In and of itself, it is nothing. Likewise, I believe good can get along just fine and dandy without evil. In fact, it would do even better without evil. Good is not done for ego, therefore contrast is not necessary for good to exist. As darkness is not needed for light to exist. But evil likes to feel important, or even equal, so it will never accept this as truth.