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"Free will is an illusion"
"He is older than Words. Older than Memory"
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Last edited by Juice; 08-14-2008 at 02:52 PM.
Yes. Personally, I believe that our Creator gave us free will to do whatever we wish to do in a fully concious level. I also believe that it is MAN who give restrictions and punish those who practice complete free will without control or possessiveness.
Although, KaiserDragon, I am just curious... Why do you believe that Free Will is an illusion? This is not an attempt to attack your beliefs but I'm just wondering because a lot of people here seem to believe that free will is an actual life-style.
Some time ago, I was thinking about Free Will.Originally Posted by AscendedOne
And something just came up...
Just like almost everything could be devided into "levels", this also is for this. We do have free will to choose the shop to buy some food, to decide where to live or to even to decide to kill someone. But for me, as I guess, for most of Us here, there will be more responsible actions.
The Spiritual War, the changes that will come, the future will be and is based on Fate. "demons" "angels" humans, it all doesn't matter too much. Our belives and plans also probably will shatter.
Any way, I know that the really important path in life is predestined...
Like the example, Someone says, that you are destined to kill your best friend. You rebel and not kill him. You say about free will. But the real Fate (destiny), was the fact that you rebelled and have not killed him.
It's hard to comprehend, but Fate is and we simply don't notice it...
"Free will is an illusion"
"He is older than Words. Older than Memory"
Yes, I understand what you mean now. Our souls, when we ascend to the otherside, our predestined actions are charted with other souls in order to help out with our growth. God gives us free will completely, and while God does give us complete free will, there is one thing that will definitely happen without a doubt. That, my friend, is mutual growth for each and every soul on Earth.
Once we ascend to higher levels, we will continue doing so until all souls feel neccessary that they completed their experiences and reach The All Thing (Namely, the One God).
I am not that sure about joining and stuff, but as for destiny I'll throw in a theory, that Fate is/was set higher in authority than even God (whatever the name, The creator). And even he can't actually influence some things.
"Free will is an illusion"
"He is older than Words. Older than Memory"
Exactly, because we are all given free will.
I'm saying something opposite here.. but yeah, whatever you say
"Free will is an illusion"
"He is older than Words. Older than Memory"
Oh haha I had a feeling that you were saying something different. My bad.
hey there fiery dragon one. i like your train of thought. i think that the free will comes in more when we sit down and plan this existance. and yes even into this existance because, if you change your mind, u can leave....u get it. but yes food for thought because, those times when you are so frustrated with your situation that you can choke the life out of someone, kind of indicates that you dont have control over the situation. well, let me go and away and ponder on this. thanks for that. LOVE
a lil bit out of topic, but why, when I see all of the "Love" on this site, my head is filled with visions of flowers, people with long hair, drugs, free sex and the good old 1960...
I mean comeone, am I missing something or what?
"Free will is an illusion"
"He is older than Words. Older than Memory"
its all about the free will fella. u chose the tough casing, i chose the soft one..... LOVE LOVE LOVE and more LOVE
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