sensing energy, communicating with parallel world or neurological dysfunction?

[epath13]

I haven't been here for a very long time and decided to come back with a question. Didn't really know how to name the thread... anyway ...
I was wondering if anyone experienced similar to what I did, or heard anything about similar experiences.

I'm not going to tell my life story, it's going to take too long. I'll try to explain everything without going into too many details.

I've experienced a lot of strange things... Whether I was contacting something or someone or it was happening to me due to birth head injury is not relevant right now. I want to gather all kinds of information to learn how to deal with this.

I start with childhood.

before age 2 - don't recall any experiences.

between age 2 and 3 - might have sensed something slightly but was unable to process it.

One thing I'd like to note - even at very early age I felt like an adult who's been 1000s years old, that my life is just a sort of like a train stop, thing in between to deal with and to make the best out of it. One more thing I'd like to mention - I've been diagnosed with Asperger's (high functioning Autism sort of like).

between age 3 and 5
I sensed certain dark (as I call it) energy in certain places as if it was kind of located or should I say, concentrated, there. It felt like that energy can consume you and make you exist (or how I saw it, fall, sort of like, existence in constant falling) in darkness permanently.

for some reason I was terrified of it. My 1st encounter with it was in a house we were renting, the whole house felt weird, but somehow at some point I felt that darkness was concentrated in a tv set.

I started having nightmares about the darkness.

When we moved I felt there's someone in the house periodically trying to contact me, I called them blue people. When my mom told me it was my imagination, I stopped seeing them.

between 5 and 10-11, I continued seeing the same dream over and over, that people with bluish skin in forms of my relatives, friends and just regular people were coming to my house calling me with them, I felt they were the darkness, they were trying to consume me somehow... don't know how else to describe it. Weirdly enough I also felt this energy in some churches, not any churches, only some, as if they were corrupted somehow.

One more thing I'd like to mention, when I was about 5 my great grandfather died (I'd like to mention I wasn't afraid of death and knew what it was), on the night I was sleeping at a neighbors house, every time I closed my eyes I saw myself in the same room surrounded my shadows spreading their arms towards me. I woke up about 3 times and every time I fell asleep I saw the same thing. Then I decided not to be afraid of them and had pretty good night sleep after that.

During the funeral I went into a panic more unexpectedly, I couldn't understand why it was happening. I was removed from the funeral and I was waiting at a playground. Suddenly I felt peaceful and happy, I couldn't stop myself from laughing. Apparently my great grandfather was in the ground then.

between age on 10-11 and 14-15 I decided to believe in God, I prayed every day asking for guidance. I started seeing different things. Sort of like lucid dreaming. I'm in my room and see a tall man in a grey hooded robe, communicating with me but I couldn't hear very well. One day it all ended suddenly, when I saw a monstrous crucifix, it was the darkness. After that I was in, as I call it grey mode for some time. Tried to figure out what's going on. Periodically I would feel that energy here and there.

when I was about 19-20 I started reading Castaneda, a lot of things made sense to me (I'd like to mention I also read psychology and philosophy books, plus I explored a possibility that I had an epilepsy, which I don't, I've been diagnosed with complicated migraines), a few times I saw a large orange egg next to my bed (which I thought was caused by images from the book) but surprisingly I saw it every time I was doing the Tensegrity exercises actively. It felt like the egg was trying to communicate with me but I was again, terrified.

2 years ago I started using another meditation technique very actively. Felt energy around me like never before. This time I heard clear directions and answers to my questions, saw tons of animals and lots strange visions. But then this darkness again. at 1st I was able to deal with it somehow. But one day I noticed that I don't feel as peaceful and happy any more, then I had the worst pain in my stomach ever, I haven't had so much pain for a long time. On than day my friend asked me an opinion about organization, it was a sect who brainwash using special videos and music, apparently they use some sort of hidden sound, or however you call them. I literally felt like someone was "breaking" into my head (I didn't know they were sect prior that, I only started researching after I got that feeling). So after that I felt that months of meditation went down the drain, I was in a grey mode again.

a few months ago, I started meditating again. And again clear messages, clues in real life, answers better than ever before. And the darkness came back again, and this time stronger than before. I woke up many times during the night. One night I woke up again, 2:22am, I wish I stayed awake! I might have prevented what happened next. But then again, maybe it was for the best. At 6 in the morning I woke up from loud screaming outside. The house across the street was on fire. I called 911. Fire trucks came, worked on the house all morning. All the people came out safely. But the house burned completely, it had to be demolished. After that I didn't feel concentration of darkness so much, but it seemed it's still around.

I'm so tired of feeling this, I want to learn how to deal with it. If it's neurological there're not many things I can do, but I know how to deal with that. But if it's something else I would like to see some ideas what it can be and how to deal with it.

[FirstWave]

Sounds like you are a sensative or empath. We feel energy around us and sense things according to this energy.

[epath13]

I've been thinking about it actually, it's kinda funny considering that I have Asperger's and people on the spectrum are known to be empathy deprived do you sense energy around you and what do you do when you sense negative energy, how do you make sure that it doesn't effect you?

[Psychic Child]

One of the latest explanations is that Autistic people are telepathic.
Telepathy is not a linear thought process. It a spherical pictorial
thought process, where every thought-thing is pictured all together.
You need to understand this older thought process, and how it works.

Spherical thinking is divergent thinking, where you expand a thought
to all its possible conclusions. Then [with training from a fellow telepath]
you use convergent focus on several [one-at-a-time] solutions to the
problem. You then pick one that seems appropriate, and "see-perceive"
the answer.
35+ people in _IS_ use this very useful psi-ability.

Both sons are in the top of their field using this psi-ability.
We refer to it as "Just Knowing" or as "Divination" or "Think in non words".
I am "that way" too.

The problem is that people want a process to prove the answer.
So you need to work backwards from the answer to the question,
building the workable process so others can use and benefit from it.

To protect you from all the word thoughts, emotional thoughts, and
picture thoughts that are everywhere, you need to manifest a mental shield.

We all start life as Empaths. Some of are so empathic
that we need to detach from it's overwhelming static.
The mind shield will dampen incoming emotions too.
This will enable you to have more control so you can
function much easier without "shutting down".


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Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[sshenry]

I've been thinking about it actually, it's kinda funny considering that I have Asperger's and people on the spectrum are known to be empathy deprived do you sense energy around you and what do you do when you sense negative energy, how do you make sure that it doesn't effect you?

I understand the concept of those with Asperger's (normally) being empathy deprived. My husband has Aspergers and that is a trait that he (and I) have had to learn to deal with and which can be quite frustrating. However, If you are feeling this strong of energy - and have Asperger's - then you must have an incredibly high empathic level for it to be able to 'cut through the haze' so to speak.

The most important thing that you can do when you sense negative energy is to be strong enough in your own skin - positive enough of your own nature that you know that they cannot hurt you unless you let them. Mind you, there are ways to keep these negative energies at bay (you may want to look into learning how to shield if this is a concern for you). But if you know that you are every bit as powerful as any being out there; anything or any one that might want to cause you harm, you will sleep a lot better at night

[epath13]

One of the latest explanations is that Autistic people are telepathic.
Telepathy is not a linear thought process. It a spherical pictorial
thought process, where every thought-thing is pictured all together.
You need to understand this older thought process, and how it works.

Spherical thinking is divergent thinking, where you expand a thought
to all its possible conclusions. Then [with training from a fellow telepath]
you use convergent focus on several [one-at-a-time] solutions to the
problem. You then pick one that seems appropriate, and "see-perceive"
the answer.
35+ people in _IS_ use this very useful psi-ability.

Both sons are in the top of their field using this psi-ability.
We refer to it as "Just Knowing" or as "Divination" or "Think in non words".
I am "that way" too.

The problem is that people want a process to prove the answer.
So you need to work backwards from the answer to the question,
building the workable process so others can use and benefit from it.

To protect you from all the word thoughts, emotional thoughts, and
picture thoughts that are everywhere, you need to manifest a mental shield.

We all start life as Empaths. Some of are so empathic
that we need to detach from it's overwhelming static.
The mind shield will dampen incoming emotions too.
This will enable you to have more control so you can
function much easier without "shutting down".

Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

Thanks!

People on the spectrum do process information differently, think differently and I always struggled because of that. It seemed like, and I notice it now with my kids, that majority of people don't think the way we do. It's hard for them to understand or even help individuals with Autism and because of that misunderstanding they tend to train us to use mostly linear thinking, I guess. I think at one hand it gives certain comfort to a people like my kids and I, but there's always going to be a conflict. Because that kind of processing is not natural to us. I've been searching for a name of this type of information processing and now I found it, thanks! Maybe with some training I would be able to use my natural abilities instead of trying to fit in and do it like others.

For some reason I keep disregarding a necessity of building the shield, maybe I just haven't clear understanding what it's for

[epath13]

I understand the concept of those with Asperger's (normally) being empathy deprived. My husband has Aspergers and that is a trait that he (and I) have had to learn to deal with and which can be quite frustrating. However, If you are feeling this strong of energy - and have Asperger's - then you must have an incredibly high empathic level for it to be able to 'cut through the haze' so to speak.

The most important thing that you can do when you sense negative energy is to be strong enough in your own skin - positive enough of your own nature that you know that they cannot hurt you unless you let them. Mind you, there are ways to keep these negative energies at bay (you may want to look into learning how to shield if this is a concern for you). But if you know that you are every bit as powerful as any being out there; anything or any one that might want to cause you harm, you will sleep a lot better at night

Thanks as I've already mentioned to Psychic Child that I stopped working on shields or any kind of protection, thinking I'd be fine, nothing to worry about, but apparently my sensing abilities, or however you want to call them are becoming stronger... or maybe I've become more aware of them... and because of that it's getting more and more difficult to filter and stay unaffected

as for people with Asperger's and Autism, strangely enough we feel very strongly, the problem is we can't always understand what we feel and how to deal with those feelings, that's why process of relating to others seems very confusing and sometimes illogical, it requires a lot of work that many of us do not want to do I worked on understanding of feelings and emotions a lot, mostly because I wanted to know how others feel and if I can feel the same. Believe it or not, I only recently understood what actual compassion is, sort of connected the dots, before that I had an implanted theory but didn't really truly feel it. It took me only 30 years

[TheStrengthOfWe]

It a spherical pictorial thought process, where every thought-thing is pictured all together.

I would love to learn more about this...

[Psychic Child]

OK Strength, here is some more . . . .;-)

Spherical thinking is what we do . . . . .
before words and Societies imposed linear [logical?] thought.

In spherical thinking you focus on the total experience
of an event. [problems are included as events] This
includes "all" your senses. This is divergent thought,
seeing perceiving it all. You can focus, converge, on
one part to expand it, to perceive it totality, all spread
out in a divergent random pattern like before.

So our basic thinking pattern is spherical,
to "gather information in Macro" all spread out
to be able to perceive it ALL in a divergent action.

Then converge, focus, on a part to expand [divergent pattern]
of the experience. Then focus [convergent again] to gain "Micro"
understanding. Diligently Pick another macro part. converge to micro . . .
Then pick the micro information-action . among several, that seems
most appropriate to use in this instance.
All this in micro seconds to a result of our "Just knowing",
or using our "Intuition" and other names for our Abilities
that use this basic pattern of thought information gathering and selection.

In _IS_ Types of psychic abilities . . . .
13 Just know
31 use ESP
67 use Intuition
92 are Empathic.

In our present time, to share our conclusions with others
without mental contact it is important to write down a
process that will support our conclusions, our answers.

We do need to understand and apply linear thought, then,
as a universal descriptive [logical?]structure. In my experience
working "Retro" from the selected answer, and creating a linear
pathway, in the appropriate subject symbols and/or language,
to the question, is the best way. [and the most fun.]

If you are an artist in any media you will recognize
this pattern of thought creation.
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger
note:
Educators are puzzled by a student
that can score 160 on an IQ test that requires just answers . . .
And have a B-, C+ classroom performance that requires using a linear thought process . .
It is a kinda a hallmark of Indigo students.
Beauty.
pc

[epath13]

Educators are puzzled by a student
that can score 160 on an IQ test that requires just answers . . .
And have a B-, C+ classroom performance that requires using a linear thought process . .
It is a kinda a hallmark of Indigo students.
Beauty.
pc

I think it's pretty normal for some, let's say, gifted or highly intelligent people, or creative minds, there's never one answer, a question that to some might have only one answer, to another will have 10s is not 100s of answers, it all depends from what angle you look at the problem. I know, for some people on the spectrum it my cause sort of like a brain freeze, as I call it. When you can't decide which answer to pick, or they all get scrambled up. It seems, that it's all about finding relevance, sort of an invisible connection to the matter. I have the same problem when somebody asks me to look at situation psychically, sometimes I can see the connections right away, but sometimes there's too much information, which I don't know how to deal with. The weird thing, when it feels that there's too much going on, deep inside I know - information is presented sort of like in zipped format, in order for human mind in its current state to understand it I would have to "unzip" it and "decode" it. But, if there was a way to communicate on a differen wave or level, and just transfer that information to another human, so he/she should just accept it and "digest" it in the raw form we would be able to save a lot of time and I think the presented information would be more pure, so to speak, no damaged by manipulations. Unfortunately at our current development level we do have to "unzip" and "decode".

[Psychic Child]

Hi epath.
good thoughtful post
Ofcourse I see "It is normal for . . .gifted, highly intelligent . . . creative minds".
to be Indigo Types. ;-) ;-)

If you let the spherical thinking happen, all the information included is
floating around. think relevant intention, and the more relevant information
will cluster for your divergent and convergent selection.

To communicate our conclusions,
we have two ways that seem to work well.
They need to be taught and practiced to be developed

One is projecting and receiving information telepathically
[pictures of action or symbols + empathy+audio] from
person to person or person to a group.

The second is learning to place and read recorded intention
symbol that can be copied and carried about as printed.

Placing a recorded intention, seems to be automatic, as we create art,
compose music, or write a poem, a play, or write a formula.
The way to access it is through Remote Viewing.

I had all the art students in a small K -12 school
Remote View into the paintings of the modern and older
masters. When inside the painting they could receive
information from the artist by touching a specific part if
the interior of the painting. They would receive answers
to questions they had prepared. [intentions exchanged]
Being aware students, they saw the advantages
of applying this technique to all of their classes.

On all of the ancient rock art, there are symbols.
On many of the ancient structures or on court yard
walls that are around the structure there are symbols
carved into the stone. Enter the symbol and you will
receive their recorded intention information.

I entered one that was like a thick edged pie with one slice
cut out. When I entered, [RV] it went into a spherical
expansion and all the divergent parts were floating. When
I converged on one it became a detailed construction drawing
with information on how to build an 80 unit diameter meeting
dwelling with a Conical roof; included was a formula for a stucco
white-wash, all from local materials.
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[epath13]

One is projecting and receiving information telepathically
[pictures of action or symbols + empathy+audio] from
person to person or person to a group.

decided to continue writing in my thread a little bit, don't have much time so I'll continue later. write one thing for now. One thing I've been wondering about this morning...can you receive information telepathically from knowledgeable people... let's say if I want to be successful in something, I could ask for an advice...sorta telepathically without them knowing it... or is it intrusive and unethical? not sure why that idea crossed my mind, it just did. I'm not even sure if I can do it what do you think? if anyone returns to this thread I'm not even sure if it would be information retrieval per-se... it's sort of like you hook up to the "data base" used by that person and ways how he/ she uses it... not specific information but methods and ways... not sure how to explain it better...

[Dr Teeny]

My brother has Aspergers, and he has the biggest heart in the world! He has an innocent mind and doesnt understand evilness in a way... He just gives and gives, even to strangers on the street. Its easy to take advantage of such a person. But for sure he has empathy! Its heard for people like him to adjust to the normal world with all the norsm and rules, they dont get these things. Also he is highly intelligent in certain subjects.For me psychic experiences or ESP abilities is a different thing than the normal IQ kind of intelligence... I have to switch off like ALL logic to be able to get info through ESP abilties, if I start thinking with logic it never works!

[epath13]

My brother has Aspergers, and he has the biggest heart in the world! He has an innocent mind and doesnt understand evilness in a way... He just gives and gives, even to strangers on the street. Its easy to take advantage of such a person. But for sure he has empathy! Its heard for people like him to adjust to the normal world with all the norsm and rules, they dont get these things. Also he is highly intelligent in certain subjects.For me psychic experiences or ESP abilities is a different thing than the normal IQ kind of intelligence... I have to switch off like ALL logic to be able to get info through ESP abilties, if I start thinking with logic it never works!

It's nice to hear something uplifting about a person on the spectrum once in a while. thanks for your post and I know what you mean about using logic, when I try it I only get more confused even though sometimes I can't help myself

[epath13]

decided to continue writing in my thread a little bit, don't have much time so I'll continue later. write one thing for now. One thing I've been wondering about this morning...can you receive information telepathically from knowledgeable people... let's say if I want to be successful in something, I could ask for an advice...sorta telepathically without them knowing it... or is it intrusive and unethical? not sure why that idea crossed my mind, it just did. I'm not even sure if I can do it what do you think? if anyone returns to this thread I'm not even sure if it would be information retrieval per-se... it's sort of like you hook up to the "data base" used by that person and ways how he/ she uses it... not specific information but methods and ways... not sure how to explain it better...

I started a new thread about this:
http://indigosociety.com/showthread....767#post916767

[Psychic Child]

My brother has Aspergers, and he has the biggest heart in the world! He has an innocent mind and doesnt understand evilness in a way... He just gives and gives, even to strangers on the street. Its easy to take advantage of such a person. But for sure he has empathy! Its heard for people like him to adjust to the normal world with all the norsm and rules, they dont get these things. Also he is highly intelligent in certain subjects.For me psychic experiences or ESP abilities is a different thing than the normal IQ kind of intelligence... I have to switch off like ALL logic to be able to get info through ESP abilties, if I start thinking with logic it never works!

Dr. Teeny.
People like your brother, and all of us, start out life in what I call
spherical thought. We see lots of thing all together, kinda-floating around.
In psychological terms it is called Divergent thinking. It is difficult for some
to focus on one thing in that group.

That "'One-thing focus is called convergent thinking. When you
converge your focus on one thing in the sphere, it expands to a
divergent pattern again, and you can see-perceive all of it's micro parts
and how they fit together.

It is fascinating to watch the many [10-20-50-100] parts join to
become something more. It is easy to see how this would excite
a person, to perceive the "truths of a thing" and every time you
use it you perceive more truth.
[savant reaction? pleasure? Endorphin spiritual high?]

Logic is a taught method of thinking, with little emotion
as part of the logic. With logic your conscious mind is
detached from a direct connection to the other thinking
mind brains except the Limbic mind-brain.

The easiest way to reach your abilities,
and your brother, is to clear your mind of linear-logic thought
and focus on a picture intention.
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[Psychic Child]

I started a new thread about this:
http://indigosociety.com/showthread....767#post916767

I'll put this post over there. But
yes you can tune in on their intentions.
Otherwise it is polite and safer to knock
first before opening a door. If they are
shielded you could be seen as an intruder,
and dealt with in an unkind manner.
Harmony,
beauty,
roger.
added note:
IF you RV into a painting or musical composition,
you can touch a color, brush stroke or a drawn note,
you will see-hear the intention of the artist.
With this contact you can ask questions of the artist
and receive answers.
Harmony,
pc

[epath13]

I thought I would continue it here. I've decided to view videos of the Psychic Child again and pay more attention this time Your grandfather was a wise man. I can relate to so many things he said. The note about the future - so true! I might post a drawing of how I see the future becomes present, if I have time to make it. Sometimes I feel like... if I could remove the physical appearance of objects around me I could literally see it happening... not sure how to explain it. And the closer you moving to the spot when what we consider as future becomes present, to that one moment, sometimes I can notice little pieces and signs of it happening.
I could never move things on demand but I might have made things fly of shelves quite a few times it was kinda funny I remember one thing happened twice to me actually, I was in a store and suddenly a bottle of wine flew of the shelf and broke, I was with my family (husband and the kids) we had some laughs at that those moments were the most memorable, but there might have been other ones, which I don't remember well...

as for talking to animals, I've always had irrational fear of them but hawk somehow seems to have some connection with me. One time I was walking down the road, and suddenly see a hawk sitting on the ground (which was kinda weird) staring at me. So I looked at it for a moment, I think I might have even said "hi" somehow I felt that he's (or she) got positive disposition towards me, the encounter made me feel good inside as a kid I told crazy stories to kids about some animal being good and evil spirits, they believed me I think I might have believed it myself as well maybe next time I have an encounter with some animal I should try to communicate to it....

[Psychic Child]

epath13, besure to think warm friendly pictures to the Hawk.
They don't know words. A picture of you both flying near
each other is good.
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[soveriegnslade]

so...like if i played a song you could rv into it? that kinda sounds like what i do....but its somthing other than rving cuz i actually suck at that. what do you think?