like the fear of losing what you own, yes. Or what you think you own. I think most fears (beyond of course the fear of Pain and Death) spring from lack, or the idea that losing something will create lack.
Most people who commit crime on this planet do it for cash, or out of anger, but the anger usually stems from lack of something, or lost of something (respect, pride, girlfriend, job, material possessions, health, trust, whatever)
I'm not sure I agree with Visioneer that fear is "needed" to keep order, because it implies two things on earth:
1) that humans are useless without fear, and unable to behave without the proverbial "stick" (which is IMO a thoroughly negative and pretty much hopeless view of humanity)
and
2) that without Fear we will never be able to build a decent society on Earth (which is also kind of killing the fun and very French Romantic writers for me)
I think the difference of opinions lies in the origin of those fears Visioneer considers are a tool for order.
I believe we are USED to being controlled by Fears, as a society, but only because it got engineered that way.
It surely is an efficient tool, and a very easy one since it can be applied in various ways using physical strenght and physical superiority (both in power and numbers) It's basically how the male aspect rules over the female one.
But I do not believe it is "necessary". Of course, to remove it, you need to decondition people first, and that can't be done suddenly. So yes, if you remove the fear of prison, pain, death and retribution in general, it will be chaos.
But as usual, doing so suddenly and not gradually would just be an extreme act, and we all know extremes are never good for anyone. But yeah, THIS is a projected reality in which we experience things, both good and bad, blissful and painful, depending on what course we have chosen, so of course Fears and Control are parts of the scenario.
Everything is multi-faceted... you can subscribe to NWO concepts, and bloodlines, and bad E.T.s changing people's DNA and feeding off our fears and wishing to keep us enslaved. But the universe and realities are such that whatever scenario you are experiencing doesn't exclude the concept (or for me the truth) that it IS a scenario, that everybody chooses his/her own scenario before birth, and that whatever happens in your life is to some degree planned and wished for at a higher level. The difference between now and 200 (or 2000) years ago, is that in the Times we in live in at the moment, we are being allowed, and encouraged, to wake up and see the system for what it is. Because if you're not seeing the system, you go on living based on virtual perceptions provided by the illusionary matrix you have designed for yourself.
These are dual times... we are expected to live our lives, accomplish our missions, and gradually wake up and have a similar effect on people around us. It's complicated, and everybody not only has a different basic toolset, but also different degrees of awareness or wakefulness, which makes it very hard to agree transdimensionally.
Because if I see evil as selfishness, but you see evil as an entity, or doing physical damage to someone, we obviously live in different dimensions all at once. The wonderful thing nowadays, is that this is becoming obvious as MANY dimensions rebound of each other. 500 years ago, you had the main dimension/point of view, and advanced guys who would sound like lunatics and would end up BBQed on the village square.
The biggest point for me, is to try and accept the duality (or multiplicity) of existence, so that you don't get lost in the illusion of modern society. You are not slaves, or prisonners, beyond the scenario that says you are. It's just that, a scenario. A brilliant one too.
Visioneer, when you say "to learn about mortality"... that's a pretty easy theme IMO...
get incarnate, die a few times around, and you have enough incarnational data about being mortal, even if you go deeper into what it means to live as a mortal compared with as an immortal (a theme very well explored by Heroic Fantasy literature with Elven culture) Being alive here is about experiencing everything you like, including pain and suffering.
If the world was 100% evil, fear would still be there... there would just be more understanding of its mechanism... there would be more order, more organized hierarchy,
but everybody would live in fear of what your superior can do to you for fun, and what your subordinates can do to you to gain your position.
Fear of death is a biological motivator... in an 100% evil settings, most people who thrive would just be tougher, and probably don't care about dying, but it doesn't mean everbody would be tough enough. You can be totally evil and very very weak and cowardly.
Cowards fear death, imo.
Also, consider a parent telling off their kids for whatever reason. The kids get terrified by the idea that their parents might not like them anymore, like teenagers sometimes get terrified by the idea to lose their parents' respect and trust.
Does that make the parents evil? I don't think so. Yet, they inspire, and use Fear as a controlling/educational tool.
I personally think that in a startrek-ish scenario where people can get whatever they want because technology provides for everything (including plastic surgery, extended life expectancy, free travel, synthetic materialization of whatever goods you may want, including stuff that used to be vintage or in limited edition), most fears will disappear.
The fear of pain will remain, but that's an animal level survival instincts. We couldn't survive without a pain system to protect our physical integrity.
And the fear of death is based on ignorance.
of course I only speak for myself
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Originally Posted by AmonRa
lack of empathy. 
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