IS kundalini The only way?

[sshenry]

also useful for this thread

that kundalini is awakened in all

the physical body would not be animated if it were not

you would be physically dead.

if you can come to this forum to type then your kundlini is awake and you need not sell your soul/ invest your energy with charlatans

in exchange for something you already possess.

Hon, there are two kinds of Kundalini energy. The most basic kind is the air energy - the kundalini energy that is the animating force and that exists in all living things. In China it is called the "Chi" in India it is called "Prana." So in that regard you are right - that type of kundalini energy already exists in everyone and we would not be animated or alive without it. But there is also a second type of Kundalini energy.

The second kind of Kundalini energy Kundalini Shakti energy. This is the energy that resides at the base of the spine; the energy of cosmic consciousness. Each of us has the POTENTIAL to awaken this energy, but not everyone does. Those in whom the process of this energy awakening have started can said to be "awakened" - they are in the process of awakening to a connection with cosmic consciousness. Those in whom the Kundalini Shakti energy has completed its awakening process can be said to be enlightened.


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Not everyone ends up tapping this Kundalini Shakti energy. In fact, most people never do. They choose to remain as they are, alive but not aware of the deepeer aspects around them.

There is no need to invest in charlatans in order to awaken this Kundalini Shakti energy. Everyone has ;the potential to awaken it themselves. Of course it is easier if you have the guidance of somoene who has done it before you; you can make the transition smoother - but there are plenty who have gone through the process with no help at all.

[OneSource]

About fake gurus, and to give some credit to LH919's position:

Yeah, getting scammed by a fake guru is dangerous (and I typically run away from however asks me for enough cash to make my eyebrow rise) but some people need to pay certain amounts of cash to feel it's "true" or to give it some tangibility. i've had a bunch of clients who would act all snob and all after being offered free sessions.
free? What am I? A spiritual hobo?
So I would give ask them double the usual fee, and suddenly the session sounds much better to them... Go figure.

... some people need that.

Haha!

That's good and that is true!

Here we have a shop that sells original Polo clothes for men.
First they were sold at a low price, and people did not want to buy them, because they thought it was fake.
Than the price was raised 3 times the former price.
Now business is great, and people are buying like crazy.

Same thing as you said.

And very useful to know!

Why not take more money, if you can help people with it, and have a better life materialistically.

We can buy 500 Roll Royce (or how many was it?) as OSHO did!

Nobody suffers, and everybody wins, as long as the product is real, and everybody gets what they are asking for.

[OneSource]

is kundalini awakening the only way to establish the ultimate connection with the source and gaining enlightenment?

No, it is not the only way.
I also like quiet meditation.

And also this down here:

Have a look here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZKrl5n79hY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK5ep...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odWIPhj-ivo

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...hich+nath+hanh


And it is for free.

Cheers.
Good luck on your way.

[AmonRa]

Haha!

That's good and that is true!

Here we have a shop that sells original Polo clothes for men.
First they were sold at a low price, and people did not want to buy them, because they thought it was fake.
Than the price was raised 3 times the former price.
Now business is great, and people are buying like crazy.

Same thing as you said.

And very useful to know!

Why not take more money, if you can help people with it, and have a better life materialistically.

We can buy 500 Roll Royce (or how many was it?) as OSHO did!

Nobody suffers, and everybody wins, as long as the product is real, and everybody gets what they are asking for.

yup... my very first job in Japan was like that. I was a young, fresh, barely experienced teacher. I set my prices tempered by modesty, and I swear nobody came to me in half a year. The webmaster advised me to double my fees (which would made them easily 150% over everybody else's) I did, and got a dozen students within weeks.
After that I started lowering by 10-15%, got an additional dozen students, and finally stabilized 150% above my original fee. That's how it works. People need reality to fit their image of what they want. Cheap, or Cheaper, doesn't feel good to some (or many) because it belittles the experience, and it belittles their social status, as well as the value they give their money.

Only one of my french friend, very proud guy, decided he would never change his mind.
He had to go home within 8months cause he couldn't pay his share of the rent and the GF told him to fuck off. (since he wasn't working at all)


My coworker gave me an example last weekend: he collects watches, and was telling me how a "good" watch could cost anything between under a 100 bucks, all the way to one million bucks. Then he said, but that's okay, cause for me, a watch should never go beyond 200 dollars, unless it's a special occasion and it's custom made for me, but for folks who drive around in Bentley limousines, a watch must be solid gold with diamonds, and that costs money.
It's just a watch, it only tells time and maybe what day it is. There is no scam. Gold and diamonds, plus the handcrafting cost money. For me it's crazy, for them it's natural. Everybody needs something different, and everything is thus inherently OKAY.

I like it.

Reiki is the same. I often have arguments with reiki "masters". I use the "..." sarcastically, because if you're under 40, and you've been doing reiki for only 3-4 years, and from a single school of reiki, you ain't a master.
If you're 86 and have been doing your daily routine for 60 years, yeah sure, I literally bow to you (Namaste).
If you've been into reiki for 7-8 years at least and have tried out a few schools, and blended your own style, Okay sure.

anyhow, many reiki people will tell you how the founder, Dr.Usui, said he believed Reiki was a gift to humanity and that everybody should receive it. (ie. for free or cheap) I also personally believe reiki (or something similar) should be taught to kids in elementary school.
BUT, what people often don't know, is that in those times, and since Usui was a doctor, and all his friends and healthy patients were all driving in Cars (which was THE luxury for those times) they had a totally different social status and life styles that most reiki students nowadays. When he started giving workshops (at his summer house by the lake...) the weekend course price was roughly enough for a middle class family to buy a fucking house.
Now, where is the gift to humanity part again?
What happened was, if he wanted to spread the knowledge, without being called a nutcase, he needed influential (rich) people to learn Reiki from him. And those people would never have accepted if it was free or cheap.
Combined with the japanese culture based pain-in-the-ass stiffness that will make japanese folk give you money even if you say it's free, it must have been hard for him to go against his idea, but he had no choice. He chose efficiency.
Same goes in america today. If you offer reiki for free, as a volunteer activity, SOME people will come. Others will think it's phony, crappy or that they'll be learning along with hobos.
Some people wanna pay a little. Some people wanna pay more than they have because they equate it with better quality.
You can't change that. So we need teachers of all kinds, including that madcow on ebay who creates new BS reiki style every fucking week. She is STILL useful to someone in some way, even if it used to piss me off to no end.

hell, in Japan if I offer my services for free, most girls will think I just wanna do them....
If I get paid, they feel safe... even if some of them do wish I'd ask em out... go figure.


EDIT: I was talking to a client this morning, she used to have all these physical issues, but today suddenly she feels (and feels to me) way better.
What happened? She had sex. Loads of it. Healthy romantic sex, with her new boyfriend (the first guy in like 5-6 years)
So there you go: is kundalini the only way? (to clear, cleanse, balance and optimize?) No.
If you're a girl, there is sex (smart sex, not drunk-monkey random sex)
Girls have a system reset button that guys don't.

[OneSource]

hell, in Japan if I offer my services for free, most girls will think I just wanna do them....
If I get paid, they feel safe... even if some of them do wish I'd ask em out... go figure.


EDIT: I was talking to a client this morning, she used to have all these physical issues, but today suddenly she feels (and feels to me) way better.
What happened? She had sex. Loads of it. Healthy romantic sex, with her new boyfriend (the first guy in like 5-6 years)
So there you go: is kundalini the only way? (to clear, cleanse, balance and optimize?) No.
If you're a girl, there is sex (smart sex, not drunk-monkey random sex)
Girls have a system reset button that guys don't.

I agree with everything you say.
Anatawas nihongo shaberimasu ka?
So, what are you working now in Japan?
Reiki Healer or English Teacher?

I love Japan, and was there many times.

[AmonRa]

Mochiron shaberemasu yo

I worked as a teacher for a few years( since it's the easiest/fastest job to get). I moved on to translations but hated it.
My dad being in martial arts and Chikung, I have a decent background too... Add to that 2 older sisters who used me as a massage slaves since I was like 5, I have a good "touch". When I started giving people healing and massage sessions for free, my healer senses popped open (I can sense physical issues when massaging, including pain insise my own body, which helps a lot cause often, people lie about where and how much in pain they are)

After a few successful workshops, people started asking for more, saying I should get paid for it.

I still have a few language students though... It's hard for to go from "students" to "friends" for Japanese people... They feel bad about not paying you anymore.

Are you coming back anytime soon?

[nventr]

The kundalini path is one way to attainment. It is the way of those who do not feel connected to the divine. This path is all about raising the Kundalini in order to open the third eye. It is also known as the path of death, because the ego dies in the process of attainment.


However there is another path, the Virgin or Grail Path. This path is for those who never lost the feeling of wonder and beauty of the divine. This path is all about filling the spirit with the white energy that falls from Father Sky and creating the cup within the soul. This energy has been referred to by many names. A few of them are: Grace, Light, Lightning, Water, Rain, Mana, White Dragon, White Tara. For those who feel stressed and fragmented, this energy is calming and healing. It is known as the path of life and produces the birth of the divine purpose in life.

WARNING!!! - If you are an intellectual or already on the kundalini path this energy is destructive. (Plato’s Atlantis, Thor or Zeus’ lightning bolt of punishment)

[OneSource]

Mochiron shaberemasu yo

I worked as a teacher for a few years( since it's the easiest/fastest job to get). I moved on to translations but hated it.
My dad being in martial arts and Chikung, I have a decent background too... Add to that 2 older sisters who used me as a massage slaves since I was like 5, I have a good "touch". When I started giving people healing and massage sessions for free, my healer senses popped open (I can sense physical issues when massaging, including pain insise my own body, which helps a lot cause often, people lie about where and how much in pain they are)

After a few successful workshops, people started asking for more, saying I should get paid for it.

I still have a few language students though... It's hard for to go from "students" to "friends" for Japanese people... They feel bad about not paying you anymore.

Are you coming back anytime soon?

I was there last year before the big earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Reactor Disaster.

Now I think it is a little dangerous to go anywhere in Japan considering the Radiation, Water, Food, Air and Ocean contamination.
Boku wa hanbun nihonjin to hanbun doitsujin desu.
Anatawa doko de sundemasu ka?
Genki desu ka?


I like healing and working with people as well.
I have been pretty good at Judo, and have a great feeling for the body and body Therapie as well.
I would like to live there for a longer time, if an opportunity would come up.

[OneSource]

The kundalini path is one way to attainment. It is the way of those who do not feel connected to the divine. This path is all about raising the Kundalini in order to open the third eye. It is also known as the path of death, because the ego dies in the process of attainment.


However there is another path, the Virgin or Grail Path. This path is for those who never lost the feeling of wonder and beauty of the divine. This path is all about filling the spirit with the white energy that falls from Father Sky and creating the cup within the soul. This energy has been referred to by many names. A few of them are: Grace, Light, Lightning, Water, Rain, Mana, White Dragon, White Tara. For those who feel stressed and fragmented, this energy is calming and healing. It is known as the path of life and produces the birth of the divine purpose in life.

If you are an intellectual or already on the kundalini path this energy is destructive. (Plato’s Atlantis, Thor or Zeus’ lightning bolt of punishment)

I just did what you said, and it feels good.
Do you have any good link or Youtube Video to learn more about that path, and its practices?

[AmonRa]

I was there last year before the big earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Reactor Disaster.

Now I think it is a little dangerous to go anywhere in Japan considering the Radiation, Water, Food, Air and Ocean contamination.
Boku wa hanbun nihonjin to hanbun doitsujin desu.
Anatawa doko de sundemasu ka?
Genki desu ka?


I like healing and working with people as well.
I have been pretty good at Judo, and have a great feeling for the body and body Therapie as well.
I would like to live there for a longer time, if an opportunity would come up.

Naruhodo ne! Mitaka-shi ni sunderu yo. Choudo inaka demo tokai demo nai tokoro.
Tsunami wa taihen datta kedo, gaikoku no nyuuzu no hou ga yabakatta to omou.
Radiation toka wa Toukyou dewa anmari kankei nai kedo ne...
Ironna hito ga inaka ni nigeta kedo, toukyou de genki ni yatteru yo.
Gaijin wa mechakucha sukunai kedo ne, kotoshi...

[OneSource]

Naruhodo ne! Mitaka-shi ni sunderu yo. Choudo inaka demo tokai demo nai tokoro.
Tsunami wa taihen datta kedo, gaikoku no nyuuzu no hou ga yabakatta to omou.
Radiation toka wa Toukyou dewa anmari kankei nai kedo ne...
Ironna hito ga inaka ni nigeta kedo, toukyou de genki ni yatteru yo.
Gaijin wa mechakucha sukunai kedo ne, kotoshi...

I will write in English, so everybody will understand.
You think the Radiation is not that a big problem in Tokyo. But the japanese government is hiding the truth.
Please have a look here:
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-120105.php

http://www.corbettreport.com/

James Corbett lives in Japan and reports on many topics, including the Fukushima disaster and the following big cover ups.
You can find further stuff on it on his website and when you google it together with his name.

So, if many foreigner ran away from Japan, than there must be many well paid jobs, like teaching english, available everywhere?

Anata no nihongo wa saiko desu!

Do you have a japnese gf, or got married to a japanese girl?

[AmonRa]

Yo, thx for the translation, I was coming back to do just that LOL

Actually, the european media, American media, and most sites on the web have either fake data or misinformation.
I know because two of my friends, and one of my clients work in US military bases.
One of them is actually part of the team that was in charge of monitoring Fukushima. He said Tokyo was safe as long as the US government didn't evacuate the American Village (citizens) near the base.
They never moved. I did get daily emails from the USAF guys who had emergency camping spots in the mountains.
They were sending GPS maps and directions everyday.

My ex-wife's family is from Souma city, the town hit by the tsunami, 20miles away from the plant.
So yeah, I was pretty much involved. The marriage was already kind of dead 2 weeks before th tsunami hit, so it just served as a big rift. Anyhow, yeah, Japanese GF now lol

Well paid jobs is relative... Depending on whether you have experience, and what you call "well" paid lol

[AmonRa]

About fake data, for example: the plant and "safety/danger zone".
The Japanese governement said 12-13 km are limit dangerous, and beyond 13 km it's safe.
The US governement said within a 100miles (160km) you're dead within the hour, (Obama not wanting any dumb US citizen to die there)

My friends at the base, monitoring the helicopter who went in first (before the Japanese), said 2-3km is a bitch, but beyond that it's OK.
They also all lied about how IF the plant exploded, it would contaminate everything.
Yeah, except there was nothing that could "explode". At all.
Even the #1 radioactivity specialist in Japan, with 50 years of experience, said on TV there was no major issue for Tokyo.
My American friends came in december... They thought some zones in Tokyo were contaminated (like BioHazard) with the military blocking access in and out. What a load of BS....

[OneSource]

Yo, thx for the translation, I was coming back to do just that LOL

Actually, the european media, American media, and most sites on the web have either fake data or misinformation.
I know because two of my friends, and one of my clients work in US military bases.
One of them is actually part of the team that was in charge of monitoring Fukushima. He said Tokyo was safe as long as the US government didn't evacuate the American Village (citizens) near the base.
They never moved. I did get daily emails from the USAF guys who had emergency camping spots in the mountains.
They were sending GPS maps and directions everyday.

My ex-wife's family is from Souma city, the town hit by the tsunami, 20miles away from the plant.
So yeah, I was pretty much involved. The marriage was already kind of dead 2 weeks before th tsunami hit, so it just served as a big rift. Anyhow, yeah, Japanese GF now lol

Well paid jobs is relative... Depending on whether you have experience, and what you call "well" paid lol

I doubt that the US government cares about the well being of their soldiers, and tell them that they are in danger.
If they would tell them that, than nobody would be willing to stay and do their job.

I dont want to repeat everything James Corbett found out, but it really is worth looking into it, especially when you live in Japan.

Well paid is relative, but as you said, japanese people rather like to pay more than less.
Did all the foreigners leave, and there are, for example, many english teaching jobs available?

[OneSource]

By the way, I am asking for some friends who are working as english teachers in china, and are looking for jobs elsewhere.

[OneSource]

http://www.corbettreport.com/japanese-government-insiders-reveal-fukushima-secrets/

Japanese Government Insiders Reveal Fukushima Secrets

Posted by Corbett

The former Prime Minister of Japan has revealed that scientific advisors to the Japanese government warned that evacuataions of as many as 30 million people up to 250 kilometers away from Fukushima would have to take place in the event of a worst case scenario at the stricken nuclear plant in the country’s Northeast. The proposal would have seen Tokyo itself subject to evacuation, but the idea was immediately rejected because of the chaos it would have caused.
The revelations come as Naoto Kan, who stepped down as Prime Minister last month, finally opened up about the deliberations that took place in the wake of Japan’s nuclear disaster.
In a tense interview with Kyodo News, Kan admitted that the proposal to evacuate Tokyo “was a crucial moment when I wasn’t sure whether Japan could continue to function as a state.” Ultimately, the plan was rejected because of the chaos that it would cause.
Just last week, another government insider, Kenichi Matsumoto, confirmed the plans for Tokyo’s evacuation and other details of the government’s response to the crisis to Radio Australia. In the interview, Matsumoto, former advisor to Prime Minister Kan, revealed that TEPCO not only hid information from the government, but that in the wake of the disaster they suggested abandoning the plant altogether.
Earlier this year, Toshiso Kosako, an advisor to the government on radiation safety, resigned his position in protest of radiation exposure levels for elementary schools that he said were “inexcusable.”
Meanwhile, authorities in Kashiwa City, Chiba Prefecture have announced that they will have to shut down garbage incineration plants that were being used to burn radioactive materials. The plants discovered incinerated ash to contain as much as 70,800 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram, almost 10 times the national landfill level of 8,000 becquerels per kilogram. The Nambu Clean Center in Kashiwa has already stored 134 tons of incinerated ash and is running out of space to accommodate the radioactive materials.
Goshi Hosono, the minister in charge of the nuclear crisis, announced last week that the government is ready to lift evacuation advisories for five towns near the Fukushima plant. The towns, in the so-called Emergency Evacuation Preparedness Zone between 20 and 30 kilometers from the plant, are home to 30,000 people, and were under a voluntary evacuation order, but will now be able to return to their homes once they have been decontaminated.
Reacting to the decision, Tetsuji Imanaka, a professor of nuclear engineering in Kyoto University, said: “The government may be easing restrictions because concern about reactor explosions has diminished. Radiation contamination of the land hasn’t decreased so far.”
The lifting of the evacuation advisory comes even as nuclear experts slammed the government for revealing for the first time last week the results of tests conducted in late March that showed plutonium fallout from the disaster has travelled as far as 45 kilometers northwest of the plant, far beyond the Evacuation Preparedness Zone.
Michiaki Furukawa of the Citizens’ Nuclear Information Center lashed out at the government’s tardiness: “The results came too late. The government should have conducted the tests much earlier.”
The tests also revealed strontium, another dangerous radioactive element, as far as 50 miles from the plant.

[LH919]

Energy is much like water in some regards

Put a fancy lable on it and people will buy



market sell ~market sell

Buy this special energy NOW. Impress your friends and coworkers with your elite shakti energy exclusive to those who take my specialized course!

Yes! I am a MASTER (baitor)

[AmonRa]

@OneSource>>>. There are jobs for people with past experience. About 70% of the foreigners went home, onky 40% came back, and half of those left again during a week with multiple quakes. if you're friends were here and teaching, then they should be OK. Young kids who came from the states with no experience got kicked out.
I hosted an interview with 70 dumbasses wearing supermario Tshirts and beach sandals, who thought they'd get hired out of highschool. Bad week lol

About radioactivity, I found so much discrepancy between every media that I only trust my insider data from the military.
Anyone getting on TV is pretty much playing the game, whether he knows it or not. The japanese governement is a joke too... They change prime ministers like I change toietpaper rolls.
The BIG nuclear issue is that they are afraid the citizens realize Japan doesn't need that much energy. So they've been staging fake powercuts supposedly needed. BS.

@LH919>>>. You don't get it: SOME people will feel good buying that water. Because they will imbue qualities to it, or to the act of buying it, and those qualities will translate into a real effect on their system, it's like a placebo.
I've seen people do totally phony fake yoga exercises and get amazing results out of it. JUST like skeptics doing a real exercise might get nothing out of it because it FITS their beliefs.
There's no elite BS. Well, rather, there ARE elite bullshit everywhere, whatever the field. Hell, i've seen cola bottles that go for 8bucks a bottle.
I don't need that, but other might.

Your problem is that you're advising beginners not to get ANY help learning something that can be dangerous for some, and definitely need at least some guidance. Anyone can sit at a piano and play, but it doesn't mean you'll be making music. Just sound.

[nventr]

I have all the research on the website for my upcoming book “Jesus’ Wedding." You are welcome to visit it. It is a dot com.

Since I am very new, you will have to visit my profile to get the exact web address.

[LH919]

no I am advising ~beginners?~ to not buy snake oil

there is no need for a placebo once the realization has been made

that what you are shopping for

you already own