" wrote:Wow, This will be rather difficult question to answer, but I will try my best from my experiences, and observations. But first I have to make this clear:
The stereo type doesn't really exist. I personally believe it's B.S. from the news to make an irrelevant point more relevant to further justify the division of people. But as for the drive....
The simple answer is no. The drive to achieve does not from communism.
But I am guessing you are looking for the more in depth explanation. I'll try my best. I would suggest a bathroom break before reading this...
What most people don't realize is that communism is a form of government. I never brought into the propaganda that communism is evil.
From my observations and reading Karl Marx's(German philosopher) book, it's not that bad. It's just that it can't hide human greed very well.
But that is another discussion for another time.
The drive I believe comes from the culture. To understand asian culture will take several life times. heck even chinese culture is more than enough to last a life time. I guess a good place to start which defines asian culture(especially) could be Confucius and his disciple Mencius. they were the akin to Socrates and Aristotle of asia.
their influence really impacted asian culture, from society to the individual. But I will be comparing just Confucius and Socrates as they had more of an impact and were the ones that started the asian and western cultures respectively.
If you look at the philosophies proposed by Confucius and Socrates, you can see on the surface that they are very much alike. They were both trying to define what is good and bad for society and the individual as a whole. But if you read more closely, you will find that the basis for what is good and bad for society/individual is radically different.
In a nutsheel, Socrates focused more on the harmony individual, allowing the individual to dictate the changes of society, thus was born democracy. Confucius focused more on the society as a whole, focusing on harmony of the general populace or society. Aristotle built up a perfect society from the bottom up to society, Confucius built up the perfect society from the top down to the individual.
In my personal opinion they were both just looking at different sides of the same coin. So with this came codes of conduct. Some borrowed from Taoist philosophies, and others from india, etc.
In these codes of conduct, he mentions the ever dutiful son, etc. So in essence it is the "honor thy mother and father", but in the asian case, "mother and father" includes ancestors as we were mainly ancestral worshipers. So, moving along with these codes of conduct passing via word of mouth and trade. almost all of asia adopted either all or if not some of the codes of conduct.
Now in the traditional sense in an asian family, everyone has thier appointed duties from the codes, and it is the children's duty to listen, obey thier parents to promote a harmonious family unit, which will
add up together for a harmonious society. (Now I know I am making the codes of conduct sound like a cold mechanical doctrine of a facist, but I am just doing this for simplicity sake. The codes of conduct were much more.)
So where was I, oh yes, duty. one of these duties is the duty to fulfill expectations of the parents/ancestors. you see when a wish is made or a vision or hope, they are almost always pass down to the next generation if it is not realized in the first generation. In other words, there is a sense to want to succeed and even surpass the next generation. And if you look at the history of not only from china but mainly eastern asian countries. They have been impoverished for the past 200 years or so, due to the powerful western influences back then. So many families ended up sort of starting from scrach again if you will. They have to rebuild again from generation to generation. And if you look at the students now, because they now have the opportunity to attend school and college which some cases many of their parents never went to. So the parents put quite a lot of pressure on the children to perform academically in order for the next generation to succeed(The usual get a good paying job paradigm). They sometimes say things like "Do you want to work at " for the rest of your life?
From my experience this is more subconscious in asian families than it is conscious. Asian families have been living with it for so long that the real meaning of the codes of conducts have been forgotten, but the duty remains, and has been passed down from generation to generation.
With this the parents put a lot of pressure to perform as soon as they hit kindergarten(for some).
So if you zoom up to the present day, and if you observe carefully your asian friends and ask them why asian people do certain specific actions, One of the usual anwers is "I dunno, it's the 's way". The codes of conduct have been watered down through the generations. Now in the present this code of duty still exists, but not as predominant as before. Because of western influences, there are more and more family units more like western style families. The funny thing is that Taiwan and Hong Kong claims to be very modern, and embracing the western more than china, but from personal experience, families from Taiwan and Hong Kong I found were much more traditional compared to their mainland china counterparts in large cities. This I found Ironic, like a cosmic joke.
So I hope this answers your question somewhat. My answer is more of a generalization, mainly because there are more cultural factors which influence asian families. One of them is also teaching style. Education in the east tends to be more rigid, while the west is a little free thinking.
But what I would suggest is taking a look at the works of Confucius, and some Taoist philosophies, to get an idea of the starting point, and then explore and talk you your teacher and asian friends. I would recommend you observe thier every action. believe it or not even gestures are different between asians and the west.
I hope this helps.
this thing should have been in this thread discussion... very good reasoning and very true.. afterall i am first hand asian myself