but that never been possible ever on there without thread being absusivly arbitrarily closed, and ppl being lied about while they are banned. or threatened to get infracted and all that jazz. it just never happenned a single time in my 4 year on IS that this has been possible to happen without thread being closed.Originally Posted by magonia
Well me personal if I was banned for whatever reason, you just move one to something else. As long as I understood why, thats it life too short to dwell on the past transgression, it is hard if you think you have been unjusticely treated, but you get over it in time, its life, it happens to all of us at some point. Feeding off the injustice if you think that has happen, doesnt help it makes it worse.
Water which is too pure has no fish -- Ts'ai Ken T'an
and i just say this for the safety of everyone, just don't fuck with ppl who are emotonally disturbed, who just lost their job and are lonely, and then just lie about them, and mock them, call them bad name, in the mosT complete hypocrisy while preaching love & light on the other side, that's just plain logical, if you really can't sense this kind of things or don't want to give a fuck about it, just don't be a mod here and blame everyone else for your own mistake and wrong doing as a mod, that's just not fair ^^
yes, i'd do it too, i already been banned two time, i never trolled here, and i didn't even troll at all before to be bannned to begin with, but that's not how everyone see it, and you can't expect that everyone would act like you would in any situation. that's just what is called being centered around your own belly or not seing further than the tip of your nose
some ppl who join here might be very distressed emotionally, and potentially dangerous, and they fully belong to the place more than ppl with an old mormon mentality ^^ and it always been like that on here ever, GI is just what happen after years of denial and abuse, at the wrong time in the wrong circumstances, several ppl here are actually able and willing to deal with them in a relativly peacefull way without closing thread and doing lecture about what is acceptable ^^
Last edited by h0bby1; 03-24-2012 at 11:35 AM.
Hobbs - I'm going to say this just once.
You're arguing for GI - for his being banned - it was not the moderators who banned him - it was Daniel. Daniel is the owner, founder and administrator of this site. What he says goes. If he decides that only one eyed Episcopalian Kangaroos are going to be able to post then guess what? That is what will happen. If daniel decides that someone is no longer contributing to this community - then it is his perogative to remove that person from the community. He is the one paying the bills. He makes the rules.
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Yes - this is a community - but it is not a democracy. It is a community that has been set up with certain rules and regulations. If you don't like them or you think that they are not being administered "justly" take it up with Daniel. If you don't like having rules and regulations - you're free to go where they don't moderate and where you can post whatever you like.
The rules are in place and they are staying in place. Daniel already tried creating the pit and doing self-moderation - it was a disaster - trolls everywhere.
If you have something to contribute about how the rules are administered - then why not start a thread under "forum help and feedback" and flag it for daniel to read: Attention Daniel
Moaning and groaning about what is wrong without giving constructive suggestions and alternate approaches is going to get you absolutely nowhere. Unless of course your entire point is not to actually help the site - but to emesh it in drama.
Seriously dude - if you actually care about this site - start making suggestions. Go ahead and start a thread for each suggestion in the "forum help and feedback" section and get community input instead of moaning and groaning and making accusations.
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Dabbs (03-24-2012)
now if i would troll here, that would not be because of being banned, but because of the whole way ppl are treated like shit and the whole hypocrisy that surround the whole place faced with ppl who are in most need of support and ppl to trust about things, and not about hypocrits who do the opposite of what they preach ^^ even if they preach very acceptable things in a very acceptable manner ^^
I understand if people who dont fit in with the mainstream may come here to find like minds. But yes people on forums come from all sorts of backgrounds, so you never know what to expect or what is going on in their heads. Thats a difficult situation to deal with. You can only help people who wish to help them selfs or know they have a problem, other than that there isnt much you can do....
Water which is too pure has no fish -- Ts'ai Ken T'an
Dabbs (03-24-2012)
i already made many suggestion, lol i did plenty of them, so if you're not reading the suggrstion i do, thread after thread, post after post, don't mind to tell me to do suggestion lol
and daniel said it already i remember that it was not his place but our place,that it was our forum not his forum, he said it i remember it very well ^^ and indeed it is him who banned GI, but not yogidee, not 1month11, mak etc it is not him who closed all the thread, and it is not hiom who make smirk remark about everyone all day long ^^
Maybe it is an accumlation of past transgressions or problems, that have come to a head. With all the people that use this forum this issues are bound to come up at some point.
Water which is too pure has no fish -- Ts'ai Ken T'an
yes this forum is destined to be a difficult one to handle, if ppl don't like difficult situation, no need to over simplify it to make it look like barby doll game instead of what it really is ^^ and the situation is complex, and it is not really matter of rule or anything else
yes that's exactly this, and those transgression are just keeping going, and keeping going, and keeping going, until it get to an head, and then ppl complain about it while doing everything for that it happen day after day, ignoring all the warning, demands, discussion, systematically
Last edited by h0bby1; 03-24-2012 at 11:45 AM.
and if it is really daniel place, why it is you who is speaking to me here about what the place is supposed to be about and not him ?
It is never going to be perfect...to deal with large number of people with various issues and opinions, is a double edge sword sometimes, dammed if you do dammed if you dont.
Water which is too pure has no fish -- Ts'ai Ken T'an
I have yet to see any of your suggestions started as suggestion theads in the forum help and feedback section.
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yes it will never be perfect, but there are still things that everyone can do to improve it ^^
ok i'll do all suggestion there, and it will be personal because the issue at hand are nothing more than personal issue and biases. that are systematically wiped out because personal things being at the hearth of all the problems.
and if you want to speak about what daniel want, then bring daniel in the place !!! and don't speak about daniel want from your own mouth, it is not him who is in question here, and it is not him who has been threatened or incriminated here. and it is not him who is speaking right now in front of me, so as far as i'm concerned, that's about what you want here and not about what daniel the all mighty wants.
Last edited by h0bby1; 03-24-2012 at 11:51 AM.
and ok for GI ban, but that doesn't account for all the actions that has been take here to lead to the present situation, but ok i'll do suggestion in the other thread, miss daniel fisher ^^
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