Egyptian Mystery School and Jesus Christ

Egyptian Mystery School and Jesus Christ «  » by D a n e
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]Hello, I was reading an article about The Egyptian Mystery Schools that talked about how these schools helped initiates aquire immortality. The graduates were called "Christed" They say the greatest initiate to ever "graduate" from this schoolT was Jesus the Christ (Which is how he got the name Christ) It is pretty interesting. i don't know how much is true. but that is for you to decide?


Here is the excerpt from the Article http://www.opencheops.org/page3.htm


[LEFT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=4]The very first question that religions seek to answer is "Does human consciousness survive the death of the body?" The answer to this question seems to be a resounding "Yes, it does!" It doesn't matter how far back in time archeologists go, they uncover ritual burials all over the planet. Where human remains are found interred with preparation and artifacts, we have evidence of this belief. Modern religions claim causation of the ‘afterlife,' but the knowledge that humankind are naturally immortal seems to be innate in all of us whether sophisticated or primitive. That our consciousness transcends the world of Time, Space, and Causation is something that has always been known. Most peoples have never doubted it. In modern times an argument has developed regarding who believed it first, and what the justification and rules are, for any particular claim or belief, as religions have turned the worship of the Highest into some kind of competition. Just how and why the worship of God got turned into a competitive act is a true mystery itself. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]There is a popular prejudice, among even the so-called learned, that antiquity is synonymous with ignorance.There were however in the ancient world a number of great Mystery Schools which taught the experience of death and the control of consciousness to a degree which allowed their student initiates to experience both death and rebirth in the here and now.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]They taught the mystery of the immortality of the human soul. Their work was the science of human regeneration. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]One of the greatest of the Mystery Schools was in Egypt at Giza. One of the greatest of the initiates was a Hebrew known today as " Jesus the Christ." Reference for this is found in the New Testament of the King James version of the Bible at Revelations 11:8 which states:[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]" And their dead bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]If the Bible is to be taken literally [ as most Christians insist it must, ] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]"... where also our Lord was crucified, " means:[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]A. Jesus the Christ was crucified at least twice; and; [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]B. He had to have survived at least the first event. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Since this vastly ignored passage literally overturns the crux of Christian dogma it deserves serious consideration.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]It is evident that the Great Pyramids at Giza, in the precision of their dimensions and construction techniques, represented a higher order of cosmentation than has yet been reached by modern science, which even now is playing catch-up. If Revelations 11:8 is factual, it is also evident the Mystery School at Giza was also in possession of methodology leading to trans-dimensional consciousness lost to modern times. Indeed, most people have never even conceived of it. Our religious life is ethical not mystical. Unquestioned obedience to dogma is the highest virtue. To question is to doubt, to doubt is to blaspheme, and to blaspheme is to go to hell. Therefore: to question is to go to hell. Blind faith is seen as the highest virtue.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]While direct Divine experience is the post-mortem promised reward of religion today, its major assumption is that death adds something to us. At Giza such direct experience was a reality. This reality was not a matter of nationality, or religious affiliation. It was taught only to those candidates deemed most qualified for success.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The one known as ‘ Jesus the Christ 'is probably the best known. He was by all respects the greatest initiate ever to emerge from Giza, but there were many others including Moses, Pythagoras, Plato, Solon, Herotodus, Pliny. The teachings of these men remain in literature and academia to this day. But insofar as Jesus went so far beyond the accomplishments of others, and because He is the most well known of the graduates, His story makes for the best illustration.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]
Briefly, from the book we now call the ‘ Bible, ' we have it that Joseph and Mary took the baby Jesus into Egypt shortly after his birth to protect him from the wrath of King Herod, who certainly would have had Him killed. So almost immediately the Bible places Jesus in Egypt. He is not seen again until he is about 9 or 10, when the rabbis in Jerusalem marvel at the erudition of His knowledge. He does not appear again ( so it is said,) until the age of 30.
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]From the Bible we are given the outer teachings. Those grossly simplified concepts that a largely ignorant and illiterate population was capable of grasping. It is easy to understand how wise doctrines, disseminated among uncultured peoples, lost the name of action and degraded into theological despotism and fanatical superstition. The outer teachings were directed at a population that " hears and hears not," and " sees but sees not." For His disciples, Jesus gave the inner teachings.The inner teachings Jesus transmitted to His disciples came from the Mystery School at Giza. (According to John, what was recorded is but the smallest amount of total teaching. John stated that if all the teachings had been recorded they would have totaled more than all the books in the world. And yet today, the small amount that was recorded is taken as the entirety.) The inner teachings constitute a working system of knowledge and direct experience that goes far beyond anything the modern religions can even promise, much less achieve. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]The Mystery Schools were operated in accordance with discovered and revealed natural universal laws. [/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]There are several known to exist in antiquity including Chitzen Itza in the Yucatan peninsula of Mexico, Ireland ( became the Druids,) Tibet, China, India, and Babylon. According to Aesclepius they originated during the time that ‘ gods walked the Earth with men.' There was a transference of divine insight which resulted in architectural feedback. It may be said that the cosmic plan was revealed.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Egyptian mystics could levitate, handle fire, live under water, sustain great pressure, harmlessly suffer mutilation, read the past, foretell the future, make themselves invisible, and cure disease. According to Proclus the initiated priests so fully understood the mutual sympathy between the visible and invisible worlds that they were able to change the course of action and focus divine virtues upon inferior natures. According to Plato, the highest form of magic consisted in the divine worship of the gods, and according to Iamblichus, the priests, through sacerdotal theurgy, were able to ascend from a material state of consciousness to an understanding of universal purpose by which performance of high feats of magic became possible. The term 'magic' was not associated with occult jugglery by the Egyptians, but arose from a profound understanding of natural law.[/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]Superstition is closely involved with the supernatural, but magic infers knowledge of the superphysical. [/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]These Egyptian priests held it to be true that the visible and the invisible, or the seen and unseen, together constitute nature. Nature is as much an invisible world as it is a visible world. They recognized that the divine plan which underlies the world of Time, Space, and Causation can not be accessed in the Macrocosm, but was available in the Microcosm, which was an internalization of faculties. The Mystery School at Giza possessed a form of learning which has not been conferred upon the present race.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]What is evident is that the knowledge possessed during the times the Pyramids are said to have been built included a complete grasp of astronomy, solar systems, planetary bodies, distances, the procession of the equinoxes, the fixed star groupings, and the decans and dodecanates of the zodiac. They found the cosmos of mathematically controlled regularity, an order of ever-turning cycles. Egypt did not have the capacity to produce a mind that was capable of this. This does not fit in with modern concepts regarding the state of the world when the Pyramids were believed to have been built. The only answer is that the builders had knowledge among themselves that had not been distributed to the people. Even the rulers did not possess this knowledge, which was held by a cult of architects and artificers. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]The Mystery School at Giza never was a part of the Pharaonic Egyptian pantheon.[/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]They were builders of monuments who knew the planetary proportions in relation to the cosmos,(see ‘ Science of the Maker,') and utilized a system of mathematics which preceded Pythagoras and Euclid. It is not possible to determine the true origin of this knowledge, but the evidence is that they did possess it. It has also proven impossible to determine the exact building methods used in construction of the Pyramids.The idea that a combination of hired, slave, volunteer, and impressed labor won't hold water. These hypotheses are not sufficient to explain the amount of work expended in construction. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The fact that the Pyramids were built without use of the wheel is the greatest of the unanswered questions regarding pyramid construction. No expert has ever really addressed the question. The idea that blocks of as much as 140,000 pounds were elevated up ramps using only human labor is so improbable, most experts just gloss over the topic. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The building of the Great Pyramids required skills and instruments that we do not believe Pharaonic Egypt possessed. We project the use of magical or supernatural forces because it transcends our own knowledge. The supernatural theory is comfortable because it falls back to esoterism, and the ancient Egyptians were thought to be of esoteric nature. We know they had advanced knowledge of natural law far ahead of their time. They also took responsibility for the use of natural law far ahead of our time. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]
They knew the natural laws of consciousness and had a deep appreciation for the immensity and integrity of the universal plan. They discovered you can not break natural law without suffering. They never developed the strange egoism, or egotism that God is depending upon us to take care of His divine plan. They realized or believed themselves servants of an infinite underlying reality.
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]It is well nigh incomprehensible how the modern world can recognize the genius of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, and Euclid, and yet reject in toto the religious and philosophical systems of which they were the product. We also perceive them developing their metaphysical science to the establishment of a magnificent philosophy of conscious immortality, and the wresting from death of its terrifying power.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The neo-Alexandrian mysticism of Plotinus and Proclus defined mysticism as an internalization of faculties that releases certain esoteric forces within the individual. Very often this gives rise to a less fortunate situation called psychism, resulting in the production of psychic phenomena. Mystics are inclined to disbelieve in the psychic forces of life and find them inconsistent, as they arise mainly from the imagination. Psychism therefore leads to difficulties while mysticism leads to attainment. They are not the same thing. A great confusion exists regarding these two elements in lay minds. Lay minds have no authority to define mystic teachings.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]It is evident that the builders of the Great Pyramids had wisdom and knowledge unknown in modern times. If these buildings had not survived, and we only had legendary reports of them from antiquity, not a soul alive today would believe they had ever been built. The only reason we accept it is because they are there. The more we study, the less we know. We have to revise our understanding of what the ancient world was like. We must not assume that we arose from a barbarian state that but a few thousand years ago was nothing but a colossal ignorance. This kind of thinking will not hold. Somewhere along the way were tremendous minds with a great body of knowledge that was capable of planning and executing magnificent works of skill, wisdom, and beauty.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The ancient Egyptians themselves thought that in remote antiquity gods had been with men; that deities and divine powers had walked the earth. This may be regarded as symbolical. More likely is the idea that in remote times the human being was naturally mystical, naturally possessed powers of extra sensory perception, and could communicate, understand, estimate, and react to the Divine principles upon which the universe is based. These would not be men walking among gods, but men with the god consciousness not obscured as it is now.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Gradually over time, the material world has taken over. The ancients had a relatively simple existence. There were no population problems, no extensive competition in trade, and war was limited to a few militarists now and then. People lived a quiet and natural life completely dependent on their insights into universal laws. Largely unaffected by the opinions of their contemporaries, individuals possessed the complete knowledge that they had the skills and abilities to intuit nearly everything necessary to their own survival. The rise of materialism has been the demise of mankind's trust in natural order. The Earth today is the arena of the ambitious.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The leaders of these intuitive procedures were members of a great sacerdotal brotherhood. These mysterious sages, the wise men of pre-antiquity, were the first ones of the earth who knew natural law. They were the giants of of mind and thought, and were the creators of the tradition which descended into Egypt. A tradition based on the internal development of spiritual resources. It is believed this tradition originated in India from vanished civilizations which existed 5 to 10,000 years ago. Their great body of knowledge was in the hands or keeping of a few persons who set up the systems of mysteries operating in Egypt, Greece, and the Roman empire.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]
The initiate system, prevailing in Egypt, was based upon one tremendous point, that the individual should learn factually, actually, and beyond question through personal experience that death is an illusion. Immortality is the summit of man's problem. They had developed a science by which they could communicate the fact, example, and circumstance of death directly to another person. In other words, the initiates of the Mystery Schools, were persons who had lived, died, and been born again in this world.
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]That[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]immortality is demonstrable is beyond question, not as the result of communication, not because certain famous personalities said they believed it, or because it was written in a sacred book. But because the individual who believed it had died, passed through the experience, and come back to life. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]This was the burden of the Mystery Schools, to prove conclusively that death was not the end of anything. Immortality was something that could not be denied for it had been an actual experience in the life of the initiate of the mysteries.[/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]The ancient philosophy of life was built upon the internality of life. Life was a matter of everlastingness and there was no end to it. In the mysteries the candidate went through it himself as an actual fact. That is to say an initiate passed through the thresh hold of death, beheld the spirits dwelling therein and returned again. The individual then knew the truth of immortality not because of faith or belief, but because with the right ceremonies and esoteric practices in the temple (Cheops,) he had lived through it and come back alive; came out of darkness into the light, and knew as a certainty beyond question that there was no death.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The main point was to establish the reality of survival and its associated consciousness, or the concept of the rebirth. Rebirth is simply immortality spaced out, part of the everlasting, ever lovingness of everything that exists. The ancients had very little fear of death. This world was seen as the antechamber of eternity. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]Alexandrian mystics referred to the Great Pyramid as the tomb of Hermes. But it was not a tomb. It was a symbol of the gateway to the other world and the way of return. In its inner chambers an initiation rite was sustained by use of esoteric skills and powers little known at the present time. [/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]It was believed to be the tomb of wisdom, the House of the Hidden Places. This mysterious structure may be seen as amonument to eternity. Eternity is not a long period of Time, but another dimension. It was the House of the Second Birth. Porphyry and Plotinus held that the human body comes out of a womb and then becomes the womb of the second birth for the individual who attains enlightenment, having transcended the limitations of the body. Those who did not achieve this were born into an unembodied state at the end of life. This pattern is regarded as part of predictable, natural, universal law.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The significance of the realization that there is no termination, no end, that the labors of a life are never lost. The achievements of a life are ever necessary. The individual who thought his virtues would die with him, and the ones who thought their vices would be forgotten at death are wrong. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]There is an interruption in the place, but not the state of individual consciousness. There is an interruption between the individual and the material body, but no interruption of the continuity of life within that body.[/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]The mystic concept of life was that there were two ways of growing. One; to grow slowly by cause and effect over hundreds of lifetimes, where, by the labors of living, the world becomes a place of initiation; and two; the wise man's way: to pass through death by conscious intent and purification, and thereby experience the mystery of the whole cycle in one embodiment. To accomplish the latter, one lifetime must be accompanied by the accomplishments of hundreds of lifetimes in this one embodiment. This is not just a short cut, but a gathering up, intensifying, and quickening of the natural process of human generation.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]And so we come back to the exemplar known as Jesus the Christ, who is said in Revelations 11:8 to have been crucified in Egypt. What form does this crucifixion take ? Not the gruesome scenario where the Son of God is tortured prior to being murdered while staked onto a cross, but a ceremonial crucifixion as practiced in the Mystery School at Giza, within the walls of the Great Pyramid. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]The INITIATION of the CRUCIFIXION[/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]In this ceremony, which is at once an initiation and the ultimate test of the control of consciousness, the candidate for initiation, having fasted and meditated properly, takes his place upon the altar of the cross, which is like a table in the form of the Roman numeral X. We would say 'spread eagle.' There, 12 priests, each attired in the robe of their degree, wearing headgear representing the signs of the zodiac, and being in ritually correct position, begin a chant. This chant ( which may also be deemed a mantrum, a sound, a tonality, the word that was good in the beginning,) creates a resonance, amplified by the stone of the chamber, which facilitates the candidate's journey inward to higher planes of mentation.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The candidate for initiation then self induces, through breath control and training, what may be called a cataleptic state. His heartbeat slows down and is suspended, and his breathing stops. In addition there is the intentional stopping of the spontaneous activity of the mind, i.e. thought. This may be likened to a breathless pause. Thus freed from attachment to the body, the spirit body draws within and enters realms of higher levels of mentation where it takes instruction from the great masters of consciousness. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]As defined by Swami Vivekananda of the Vedanta Society of the Ramakrishna Mission this is a state of supersensual access to realms of superconscious mentation [/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]This bestows the positive acquisition of metaphysical knowledge and superphysical power. The candidate remains in this state for three days. As it returns to the physical, as it descends from the planes of higher consciousness, marks are placed upon the spirit body to indicate the degrees of experience achieved. As the spirit re-animates the body these marks appear in the flesh. They are called stigmata. One who has done this successfully becomes Christed. Christ is a title, not a name. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Jesus the Christ. The most successful one among the many. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]This explains the biblical statement that he who would save his life must lose it, and he who loses his life for the sake of truth shall gain his life back more abundently. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The science of consciousness has nothing to do with religion, which is the methods mankind has devised to worship God. The worship of God involves belief. The science of consciousness involves direct experience. [/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]The training was long, hard, and arduous. At every stage of learning students were tested to determine their achievement. The tests were ceremonial, each one an initiation into increasingly more difficult degrees of the knowledge of natural universal law. The first time a student failed an initiation, they were awarded the title of the last degree attained, and were not allowed to proceed further.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]By tradition the degreed initiates would leave the cloistered environment of Giza and venture forth to set up their own chapter of the mysteries, where they would attract students, and generate disciples qualified to receive the inner teachings of the science of consciousness. Initiates spent half a lifetime in learning and the other half in realization. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]They taught not from theory but from experience. No experience can be taught. Only the way to obtain an experience can be taught. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]This was the purpose of the great Mystery Schools; to teach the methodology to access the infinite, of direct experience with God itself.[/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]A great many of these initiates are known even to this day; Moses, Pythagoras, Euclid, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Herodotus, Solon, Heraclitus, Plotinus, Hypocrates, and many more were initiated in Cheops under the aegis of the Mystery School. They introduced concepts of mathematics, geometry, logic, architecture, music, literature, art, philosophy, astronomy, astrology, medicine, law, ethics, morals, survey, physics, and government to touch on just a few, as by-products of their most significant quest! [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The question is whether or not there can be a recovery of the mythological, mystical realization of the miracle of life of which human beings are a manifestation. We must all wake up to the fact that we are a manifestation of the eternal. Eternity is not a long span of time, but another dimension. Eternity may not be divided in any way, shape, or form. We are not in exile. Super-consciousness is within us. We can not be exiled from it. We are the truth above all truth because we can experience it. All that has happened is we have forgotten how to obtain it ! We no longer know how to open our consciousness to the infinite presence that is perpetually within us. We all have the capacity for cosmental consciousness. What is lacking is methodology to achieve it.[/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]When this knowledge is recovered we will all be elgible to become Christed instead of merely worshipping the personality of a long departed Christ.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]TO BE CHRISTED IS TO BECOME AN IMMORTAL MORTAL CONSCIOUSLY[/FONT][/CENTER]
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What we are calling the Great Pyramid of Cheops contains the archives of antiquity.
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[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]The why's and wherefore's of the natural laws governing the universe and the consciousness within it are inside Cheops. [/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]These materials were left waiting for the times when once again mankind would have the mentation to appreciate them for what they are. That time is now. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]It is proven that unopened chambers exist within the structure. At least one entrance has been identified. [/FONT][/CENTER]
[LEFT][FONT=Verdana]Religion notwithstanding,there are simply no rational archeological, academic, or scientific reasons not to re-open Cheops. [/FONT][/LEFT]
[FONT=Verdana]The main impediment i.e. the idea that the Great Pyramids were built as tombs for Pharaohs has recently fallen. Dr. Zahi Hawass ( Head of the Egyptian Antiquities Organization,) has bravely repudiated the erroneous legacy inherited from previous 'experts.'[/FONT]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]Since this governing fallacy has been put to rest, the keys to transcendental consciousness, that is to say, immortality, will be within our grasp in the here and now.[/FONT][/CENTER]
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The Krist, the Christos was a symbol of attaining perfection while in the PHYSICAL body.

It was a concept, and practice so incredible (and contains, pieces of all religions and mystical traditions) that it was a major threat for people to even contemplate in those ancient primitive days, or rather, as the world became more and more primitive. They nearly concealed this truth completely, very few mystery schools taught these genuine traditions afterwards, or encrypted them heavily in oral traditions. And then into written forms concealing them for fear of retribution. Over time the meaning got kind of lost...and some knowledge also, naturally was wiped out- like the library in Alexandria.

I have 0 doubts Jesus/Yeshua was initiated in Egypt.
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Immortality...."those who seek to live....shall die"....why would someone seek immortality...when our souls are already immortal ? Physical immortality then ? Forever chained to the material ? This is so Ego-driven....so probably false.....as every "spiritual" teaching that makes us obsessed with our own self and it's "glory", essentially reinforcing our individuality, selfishness, ambition, greed for more than we are already blessed with...All Ego (meaning I, me) instead of Us... a mental trap...
The One Truth is encoded within each and every one of us, the Light does not need to hide in secret societies and dusty tombs....only crawling and slithering things dwell there....people of the True Light never hide....
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I have seen little historical evidence linking the Egyptian Mystery Schools to Early Christianity. While slight similarities exist in the stories of both Ancient Egyptian mythology and Christianity, I have seen far more differences.
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It is never about seeking physical immortality, it is about the perfection of the human vessel and the spiritual life. What this means, is that the human DNA and its temple is capable of achieving much higher states than we are led to believe. There are more than one who has done it, Yeshua/Jesus, Babaji, etc.

H, why do you think it is ego-driven? Do you really think the greatest masters who achieved this state had ego motivations? Or even the goal of immortality physically in their mind? That is how you see it because you are still looking at it from an ego perspective. To reach that state is to let go of the ego altogether, and to become ONE with ALL THAT IS. Not just on an INNER level, but an outer level.

Where do you think the secret teachings of how Yeshu/Yeshua replicated the fish and fed everyone from? How he healed Lazarus?
How he manifested food and wine for everyone......and much, much more (the yogi's can do this too). He learned it from the inner mysteries of memphis- which were initiated by the First 2 "divine pharohs" known as Ptah and Toth.

Would it surprise all of you that these mysteries are about the connection to "God,' the "source," Abba and EinSof, and how to bring this knowledge and knowingness to the physical realm? Would it surprise you if I told you human beings are capable of literally making something out of nothing? And that Jesus was well aware of this, and taught his disciples this secret? Would it then surprise you, that this threatened every kind of monetary, produce, farm, and priesthood/monarchy that existed at the tie, and would still threaten our economic system today if it was out in the open...??

It has nothing to do with seeking some ego-driven pursuit of immortality. Just because one or two may achieve immortality, it doesn't mean that was their goal! The focus is always on spiritual evolution, and in the case of Yeshua, and his Yledim, to bring it to all of humanity. You really think someone would reach that higher level state while focusing on physical, ego driven immortality? Of course not.

Yes, Yeshua was initiated at the Egyptian temple of Memphis. The rite of Serapis and Christos. He also had a brother, and there was also a mystery school that many of the Hebrews attended at the time.

It's funny what others thinks is "Egyptian teaching." Egyptian spirituality that you see in history books and heiroglyphs has nothing to do with the Major and Minor mysteries (which Yeshua learned). Imagine a combination between western and eastern esotericism- that is essentially the mysteries.

Also what Jesus taught were his OWN mysteries. Yet you don't get any of the sacred teachings in the bible. You get the Jewish OT stuff, and then his parables. You do not get the inner teachings of the appolistic succession. Just like in the Talmud, and the stuff of the OT you don't get the Kaballah and Zohar which were for the elite class of the Jewish priesthoods only.

The same thing happened in Egypt. At some point mystery schools and secret societies began- and there were many fights for power/control. In the end the Pharohs, and the Priesthoods (which were in sometimes, even more powerful than the Pharohs) kept the knowledge to themselves, while the lower populace, the slaves had the "exoteric version." Which is what people today foolishly believe is "Egyptian" Spirituality. The same thing still happens today with exoteric religions, and then the inner teachings some are initiated into.

In the east, this is dying out. Although its still the same, there are the Yogi's who practice the pure meditative arts, and then there are those who worship deities all day. Those who forgot and lost the meaning of what it was all about.

The fact that people think Egyptian spirituality is the Ra/Horus/Isis metaphorical stories is absolutely wrong. Where does everyone think the math and geometry of the Greeks came from? The Alchemy system? The knowledge of the spheres? And Much Much More.

The bible is a combination of Sumerian, Egyptian, Babylonian, and Hebrew belief systems all rolled into one.

You are right about people of the True Light H, but tell me, how many have survived? Yeshua got hunted down/persecuted, and his mysteries turned into the "religion" it is today (a sad fate). Many Siddhas have been put in jail, tortured, and much more. Hell even the Falun Dafa group today has had this fate. The few of the true light who survived had to become more hidden. While the "bad guys" kind of wanted to suppress the information/knowledge anyways.

The secret societies just hoarded the knowledge, and even perverted it down the lines as some of them became more obsessed with ritual and magick than the inner mysteries Yeshua/Jesus taught. He taught the INNER mysteries, of the INNER law, the INNER Kingdom of Heaven. And yes, there was influence from the east too (look to the three wisemen). He taught people you could have a DIRECT connection with God, that you could have a relationship with God/Source. That you didn't need the Pharisees or middle men. And what happened? Of course when they synthesized the vulgate, and declared what Christianity would become at Nicea- they made sure to include HIM as the middle man. Why? Because then the church- and the book they put together had power and authority over people once again. So long as you need a middle man for salvation then there is always something to be indebted/controlled by. If not religion- then money.

Yeshua did not just learn from the temple at egypt, he also learned from many masters who practiced things similar to what we call the Eastern Mysteries (aka meditation etc).

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I can tell you the mystery schools of the ancient days, and the secret societies today are COMPLETELY different things. Back then it was about spiritual perfection and seeking to attain the highest state. There were some elitist types- but Yeshua/Jesus, and some others came to teach commoners about the Godhead (abba), and much much more. His inner circle was taught more because they were at the level of development. In-otherwords, you cannot teach commoners things they do not understand. Even today some Christians refuse the idea of the "Kingdom of Heaven being within," can you imagine Yeshua going around telling people this when they all believed in literal gods/deities?

People like him, wanted to give this knowledge to everyone. And he enunciated how simple the highest truths were...about God, about love, about all of it.
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AmentiHall, thank you (as usual") for your beautiful well put together posts. I was wondering if you knew any esoteric texts I can research to further enhance my knowledge? I have been looking for books but I'm having a hard time finding the right material. lol I know it's kind of hard to find esoteric texts unless you look in the right spot, but you seem to know A LOT, so I was wondering if you knew the names of the particular texts.
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I'll find some (and look through my archives) and send em ur way. I learn from everything so its hard to pinpoint. But I'll look for something that may interest you, in particular about Jesus/Yeshua. I have read some monographs from those who teach the Grail mysteries. Very interestin stuff, very non-dogmatic, but also very cohesive. Like its got some ancient stuff, basic mystery school stuff (how to control mind, how to meditate, how to protect oneself from bad stuff), but then there is also a very comprehensive kundalini system, which I found fascinating. Only its more along the western lines, uses symbols of alchemy, and more. This is done slowly and gently.

It also has mantras/chants that one does, and they do them in the Four Directions which is similar to shamanistic practices, but the point of this is to get the Kristos into the body. Even "Aum" is found in it.

Even Kaballah has its own Kundalini equivalents. In my experience this energy is vital for spiritual evolution on a physical level. The reason being its a fire that purges almost everything from your body. And keeps one centered, grounded both above and below.

I know now (which I will not share publicly yet) from the things I am learning that Yeshua also had a mastery of kundalini and much more. The reason being, the things he did, the powers/miracles he demonstrated are very difficult to achieve without this pathway being opened. But it's more then that, that's why I am saying that every religion and esoteric tradition has a piece. You cannot do the miracles he could if one does not live in the present "now" every moment in life. It's kind of like the idea that Kaballah was about bringing divinity to earth, unlike how many of the eastern practices requires hermitage and seclusion from society. This is probably only a temporary thing Egyptian and Greek mystery school initiates underwent until they had mastered the necessary skills.

To me, the Kristos, the Christed person (annointed, yes it is a title) is someone who has a two way line from the Source/Infinite/God to themselves, and is directly in tune at all times.

One of the Siddhas of the east, who had all the same siddhis (miracles) as Jesus and more was asked "how?" And he told his students, "there are two things, one, never let someone starve, feed them and shelter them if you must, and two unconditional love, not just when it suits you, but every moment of your life." Doesn't that sound kind of like Jesus/Yeshua's principles as well? I believe this direct connection, this ability for Source/God to experience itself, through you as a body, and you as a body, able to experience Source/God while embodied is what is felt and meant by the idea of "Grace." This is why Yeshua says that humanity will do things greater than him, and at this state one can even move mountains! Because from the perspective of God, there is no difference between one thing and another- since we are all One.

He not only achieved immortality, but took his body with him when he "left."
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AmentiHall wrote:I'll find some (and look through my archives) and send em ur way. I learn from everything so its hard to pinpoint. But I'll look for something that may interest you, in particular about Jesus/Yeshua. I have read some monographs from those who teach the Grail mysteries. Very interestin stuff, very non-dogmatic, but also very cohesive. Like its got some ancient stuff, basic mystery school stuff (how to control mind, how to meditate, how to protect oneself from bad stuff), but then there is also a very comprehensive kundalini system, which I found fascinating. Only its more along the western lines, uses symbols of alchemy, and more. This is done slowly and gently.

It also has mantras/chants that one does, and they do them in the Four Directions which is similar to shamanistic practices, but the point of this is to get the Kristos into the body. Even "Aum" is found in it.

Even Kaballah has its own Kundalini equivalents. In my experience this energy is vital for spiritual evolution on a physical level. The reason being its a fire that purges almost everything from your body. And keeps one centered, grounded both above and below.

I know now (which I will not share publicly yet) from the things I am learning that Yeshua also had a mastery of kundalini and much more. The reason being, the things he did, the powers/miracles he demonstrated are very difficult to achieve without this pathway behind opened. But it's more then that, that's why I am saying that every religion and esoteric tradition has a peace. You cannot do the miracles he could if one does not live in the present "now" every moment in life. It's kind of like the idea that Kaballah was about bringing divinity to earth, unlike how many of the eastern practices requires hermitage and seclusion from society. This is probably only a temporary thing Egyptian and Greek mystery school initiates underwent until they had mastered the necessary skills.

To me, the Kristos, the Christed person (annointed, yes it is a title) is someone who has a two way line from the Source/Infinite/God to themselves, and is directly in tune at all times.

One of the Siddhas of the east, who had all the same siddhis (miracles) as Jesus and more was asked "how?" And he told his students, "there are two things, one, never let someone starve, feed them and shelter them if you must, and two unconditional love, not just when it suits you, but every moment of your life." Doesn't that sound kind of like Jesus/Yeshua's principles as well? I believe this direct connection, this ability for Source/God to experience itself, through you as a body, and you as a body, able to experience Source/God while embodied is what is felt and meant by the idea of "Grace." This is why Yeshua says that humanity will do things greater than him, and at this state one can even move mountains! Because from the perspective of God, there is no difference between one thing and another- since we are all One.

He not only achieved immortality, but took his body with him when he "left."


Okay, thank you very much. Yes, the ancient mystery schools interest me very much such as the ancient figures like Yeshua and Buddha. I have been doing some research in Reiki, as well. I have been doing research in Telepathy and Pyschokinesis. I still haven't been succesful in Telekinesis just yet. I've learned it takes a lot of focus lol I have been doing research in Metapyhsics and Quantum Mechanics and Quantum Physics which is more of the Exoteric knowledge. I need to find more good reliable esoteric knowledge. haha
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Telekenesis is tricky.

I would say if you wanna get there, start with a psi wheel.

Also, learn how to turn on kundalini.

And also, how to get to alpha brainwave state, and theta on demand.
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Haroeris wrote:Immortality...."those who seek to live....shall die"....why would someone seek immortality...when our souls are already immortal ? Physical immortality then ? Forever chained to the material ? This is so Ego-driven....so probably false.....as every "spiritual" teaching that makes us obsessed with our own self and it's "glory", essentially reinforcing our individuality, selfishness, ambition, greed for more than we are already blessed with...All Ego (meaning I, me) instead of Us... a mental trap...
The One Truth is encoded within each and every one of us, the Light does not need to hide in secret societies and dusty tombs....only crawling and slithering things dwell there....people of the True Light never hide....


^ wow that was great honestly

I could not have said it better myself

and I just wanted to repeat it in quote

in this thread so that anyone reading

could read what you said again

after sorting through the other

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AmentiHall wrote:Telekenesis is tricky.

I would say if you wanna get there, start with a psi wheel.

Also, learn how to turn on kundalini.

And also, how to get to alpha brainwave state, and theta on demand.


Yeah, it is tricky. lol and for Kundalini. I have been reading a couple books and they all make it seem a if it's very dangerous for someone that's not ready spiritually. and I am not sure if I'm ready. But it's worth a try. What could it hurt? Except it killing me. lol jk
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what then is your explanation as to why his twelve disciples (who are alledged to have written the gospels but may not have) and the letters of a one Saul of Tarsus who supposedly encoutnered Jesus in his ascended/spiritual state (flash of light, voice talking) not mention this Mystery School Diploma? The teachers who taught are not mentioned. The text he quotes is out of Hebrew Scripture. And there seemed to be a power manifestatin of the Direct-Connect, rather than the knack of arcana. and when the multitude received the gift of the Spirit and understanding each others language, it was without ritual or mysteries it just happened boldly.

I once visited an Egyptian museum display; got a peculiar energy off of two artificats. One a seated cat statue and the other a huge sarcophagus/ossuary big square hollow stone thing. massive. I felt sorry for the big stone coffin energy -- it felt so powerful but so bound had been holding on for so long. be the Rock for all eternity perhaps..... it did not know how to let go and breathe and be and be free again. midn you, it could have been some goofy sub-sonic vibe gadget the museum had wired up.
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[quote="AmentiHall]Yes, Yeshua was initiated at the Egyptian temple of Memphis. The rite of Serapis and Christos. He also had a brother, and there was also a mystery school that many of the Hebrews attended at the time.[/quote]
From every source I can find, Serapis was invented by Ptolemy I. While I don’"]It's funny what others thinks is "Egyptian teaching." Egyptian spirituality that you see in history books and heiroglyphs has nothing to do with the Major and Minor mysteries (which Yeshua learned). Imagine a combination between western and eastern esotericism- that is essentially the mysteries.[/quote:3kmbnlio]
Religion and the state were not separated in Ancient Egypt. The temples were dedicated and funded by the government. The Pharaohs stressed their ties with the gods through temples and rituals, which is further confirmed by their tomb items.
While there was a degree of syncretism in Ptolemaic and Roman Egypt, people still worshipped their traditional gods. We have documentation that supports that both traditions survived separately. I will provide a reliable source: [url:3kmbnlio]http://thehouseofvines.com/olympos_nile.htm[/url:3kmbnlio]

[quote:3kmbnlio]Also what Jesus taught were his OWN mysteries. Yet you don't get any of the sacred teachings in the bible. You get the Jewish OT stuff, and then his parables. You do not get the inner teachings of the appolistic succession. Just like in the Talmud, and the stuff of the OT you don't get the Kaballah and Zohar which were for the elite class of the Jewish priesthoods only.[/quote:3kmbnlio]
That seems to contradict mainstream message of universal salvation as described in John 3:16. I don’t believe Christianity is designed for an elite group, but for the whole of humanity.

[quote:3kmbnlio]The same thing happened in Egypt. At some point mystery schools and secret societies began- and there were many fights for power/control. In the end the Pharohs, and the Priesthoods (which were in sometimes, even more powerful than the Pharohs) kept the knowledge to themselves, while the lower populace, the slaves had the "exoteric version." Which is what people today foolishly believe is "Egyptian" Spirituality. The same thing still happens today with exoteric religions, and then the inner teachings some are initiated into.[/quote:3kmbnlio]
Religion in Ancient Egypt was state-run and involved the entire community. In many temples, people would take shifts as a priest for a set amount of time, and then return to their lives. Even though it had governmental support, there is evidence that common people (I’m talking about farmers and workers, not slaves, who were probably from other countries and worshipped their own deities) truly believed in the power of the gods. We have descriptions of offerings and statuettes as evidence to this worship. People worshipped Bes and Taweret even in Atenist times, and those deities never had a state-sponsored temple.

[quote:3kmbnlio]The fact that people think Egyptian spirituality is the Ra/Horus/Isis metaphorical stories is absolutely wrong. Where does everyone think the math and geometry of the Greeks came from? The Alchemy system? The knowledge of the spheres? And Much Much More.[/quote:3kmbnlio]
The papyrus, temple inscriptions, city ruins, tombs, etc. seem to suggest that regional triads were very important to the Ancient Egyptians. I know that Herodotus had a difficult time getting historical information from the Ancient Egyptians to the point he had to attach disclaimers to stories, so I doubt they would have shared much scientific knowledge with the Greeks prior to Alexander’s conquest.

[quote:3kmbnlio]The bible is a combination of Sumerian, Egyptian, Babylonian, and Hebrew belief systems all rolled into one.[/quote:3kmbnlio]
One main difference between the Bible and the mythologies of those regions you mentioned is the structure of the religion. Many pagan religions are orthopraxis, that is right action is superior to right belief. Christianity is orthodoxy, right belief is superior to right action.
In the New Testament, Jesus quotes Hosea 6:6 “For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings” (NIV)
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His mother, Mary, also ascended with her body. She was very advanced spiritually as well. She had to be in order to be a vessel for Jesus.

AmentiHall wrote:I'll find some (and look through my archives) and send em ur way. I learn from everything so its hard to pinpoint. But I'll look for something that may interest you, in particular about Jesus/Yeshua. I have read some monographs from those who teach the Grail mysteries. Very interestin stuff, very non-dogmatic, but also very cohesive. Like its got some ancient stuff, basic mystery school stuff (how to control mind, how to meditate, how to protect oneself from bad stuff), but then there is also a very comprehensive kundalini system, which I found fascinating. Only its more along the western lines, uses symbols of alchemy, and more. This is done slowly and gently.

It also has mantras/chants that one does, and they do them in the Four Directions which is similar to shamanistic practices, but the point of this is to get the Kristos into the body. Even "Aum" is found in it.

Even Kaballah has its own Kundalini equivalents. In my experience this energy is vital for spiritual evolution on a physical level. The reason being its a fire that purges almost everything from your body. And keeps one centered, grounded both above and below.

I know now (which I will not share publicly yet) from the things I am learning that Yeshua also had a mastery of kundalini and much more. The reason being, the things he did, the powers/miracles he demonstrated are very difficult to achieve without this pathway behind opened. But it's more then that, that's why I am saying that every religion and esoteric tradition has a peace. You cannot do the miracles he could if one does not live in the present "now" every moment in life. It's kind of like the idea that Kaballah was about bringing divinity to earth, unlike how many of the eastern practices requires hermitage and seclusion from society. This is probably only a temporary thing Egyptian and Greek mystery school initiates underwent until they had mastered the necessary skills.

To me, the Kristos, the Christed person (annointed, yes it is a title) is someone who has a two way line from the Source/Infinite/God to themselves, and is directly in tune at all times.

One of the Siddhas of the east, who had all the same siddhis (miracles) as Jesus and more was asked "how?" And he told his students, "there are two things, one, never let someone starve, feed them and shelter them if you must, and two unconditional love, not just when it suits you, but every moment of your life." Doesn't that sound kind of like Jesus/Yeshua's principles as well? I believe this direct connection, this ability for Source/God to experience itself, through you as a body, and you as a body, able to experience Source/God while embodied is what is felt and meant by the idea of "Grace." This is why Yeshua says that humanity will do things greater than him, and at this state one can even move mountains! Because from the perspective of God, there is no difference between one thing and another- since we are all One.

He not only achieved immortality, but took his body with him when he "left."
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Yes, and so was the other Mary.

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As for the Serapis, yes that was later on. Remember the differences between Calendars as well. It's a mess to be honest (that's why there is little actual record of a person whose names was "Jesus")

Yes, Christianity WAS for EVERYBODY. He did have inner disciples and mysteries, but they were not to be held secret or guarded in that way that it is done today. What happened was quite the opposite-Rome was in disarray, its territories were up in the air. People were hunting down Yeshua and his brother (who was a militant and tried to create uprising in Rome) and Yeshua, traveled all over the world. What became Christanity for "Everyone" was not at all, in my humble opinion, what Jesus intended. After all, it is the victors of wars who determine what is what, that's why the Council of Nicea decided what was in the bible, what was not, and even came to a decision as to the divinity of "Jesus." Since that moment on many thing were lost, perverted, and even became sacrilegious.

What I am trying to say, is Christianity was/is for EVERYONE! But it was causing such a problem for the powers that were in that moment in time they took drastic action to contain the situation. And the Vatican, from then on, to even today has been suppressing higher knowledge for centuries. It's quite obvious if you really look at the world you live in, the secret societies, as well as the Vaticans involvement in all of this (yes- they are more than just a religious institution).

Later on his mysteries ended up in places like France, and also even Wales believe it or not. He had sacred rituals with a few to ensure the proliferation of his seed. There were some entrusted to its survival. This was for a higher plan- which is culminating now (unlike the sensational movies/books which depict a very small line, his seed spread far and wide, it has changed us believe it or not). The only ones who covet bloodlines are those who currently are in control of the secret societies, bloodlines of the "Watchers." The only reason the bloodline of Yeshua was kept so secret in the beginning was because there was a very real threat they would be eradicated/wiped out. But this is a conversation for another time.

Of course they had to attach disclaimers, the knowledge of the Egyptians was veiled in allegory-and it still is today. Most didn't get it, like Plato didn't get the story of Atlantis, It sounded so fantastic, the idea of Gods walking the earth, major catastrophes, sittings of gold and high technology. And not everything was shared with the initiates or H

Indeed charity, about the temples and how people worshipped Gods. They also did so in Sumer. But this was NOT the teachings of the Minor and Major mysteries that I am referring to. This is not stuff you can read about unfortunately- so its hard to grasp real information. My exposure to it, as well as some memories I have gained of past lives has made it very clear. There is SOME info about it out there- unfortunately it's just not in mainstream education. I am not talking about the average person, and the temples, nor even necessary the Pharohs. Although, there was a time when Akhenthon wanted to return to the original teachings of the even MORE ancient Egyptians, the balance between male and female, and the concept of a Spiritual Sun from which one could gain direct nourishment from (the Source). He was killed, and so was his bloodline (king tut was his son). This story is too big for me to ramble on about again though.

This might be a surprise, and unbelievable, but the Egyptians go back even further than history tells us. What you see and hear about in historical references is them already on their decline, and also when they became highly patriarchal and "slavers." There was Golden Eras, even eras when women ruled and in some cases wiped from what we know of today as the historical record. As well as the time and even first Dynasties of egypt in which literal "Gods" (not truly Gods, but more advanced beings) walked among them. The mysteries that Yeshua later inherited were initiated by none other than Toth and his father.

When I said that some of the teachings can't be found on the heiroglyphs, let me elaborate. They are veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols. This is where many modern day mystery traditions derive their methods of concealing knowledge. And it is layered, not definitive (because this, in itself is the nature of physical reality, it is veiled in layers). Historians think "Oh look at this god," "Oh here's a tomb where it shows the Pharohs journey through the underworld." Not realizing, it is a symbolic depiction of the Seekers journey towards "Ascension." (to put it in new age terms).

So when you hear how the Egyptians became ritualistic, and continuously worshiped the gods. It's no different than any other culture or religion. What was once esoteric and had deeper meaning becomes crystallized in dogma and ritual. The same thing happened to all major religions of the world, Christianity, buddhism, Hinduism, Egyptian spirituality. Buddhism was about no attachment and it became a ritualized, segregated form in hermitage. Christianity was about love and experiencing God directly, walking with God, and it became the source of great hatred and conflict throughout the times, as well as a Patriarchal dominated concept of "God." Hinduism had a caste system, and also got steeped in dogma and ritual, thinking ShiVa was a literal being, among others (when in its highest teachings, it is merely about letting go of all layers of self and experiencing God directly).

The initiates of any true mystery school always understood the God(s) to be symbolic. And yes Pharohs and others worshipped them to, Emperors etc. It was the established dogma and still is, and heresy was often punishable. But the true Initiates always understood Gods, symbols, etc. was all allegorical and not at all to be taken literal (although sometimes, they were describing literal things, as beings did sometimes visit and give knowledge to humanity). They veiled a system of alchemy, magick, geometry, math, astrology, and much more in these seemingly "hocus pocus" exoteric religions. The initiates were given the keys to decipher (which, any true mystic can do without needing special knowledge).

It has happened throughout time immemorial. Why? Well the reasons are obvious and too long to list. But the primary one is the way human beings are wired. We are wired to believe in the external, and it is convincing. Therefore, God must also be external, and be an ultimate Deity. Whether its multiple God(s) or God, and this wiring and indoctrination since birth is still present today. Our new found God(s) are money, celebrities, and the list goes on. The other is that certain powerful methods and teachings have either been suppressed, tainted or perverted both accidentally and sometimes on purpose. How can the Royals, Nobles and Priesthoods thrive if the common create abundance for themselves, and find peace/godhood within?

Believe me when I say, the "magick" that is found today. With the evocations, rituals, demonic entities etc. That's really all quite trite in comparison to the mysteries that Yeshua wanted to teach openly and give to people. He knew and understood all that knowledge- but he knew true power came directly from God/Source, and how to be One with it to such an extent- that he even physically was able to do things that was quite literally, real magic, or what Christians today call "miracles."

I don't see it negatively, it all happens for a reason.

In my eyes, Yeshua wanted this stuff out to everyone. Yes he did have secrets, but not because he didn't want to teach others or make it readily available. His aim WAS to have churches and places people could go to learn all this. It IS learned in stages! The Hebrew Pharisees were furious! That's why he tells them they are essentially phonies, it's not their job to hide this knowledge from people!

And yes Charity, you are right in the belief system of Christianity, and that's because Yeshua's idea of Father/Abba, as well as the NT things moved from ritual/sacrifice, to more of a monotheistic concept of God, and about love/compassion. But if you really look at some of the OT- you will notice huge differences in the behavior of "God" to that of the NT. If you notice the "God" in the NT doesn't really intervene. It doesn't flood worlds, or tell people to sacrifice their children to test them. It is benevolent and all knowing. Not vindictive. The deities that were present in the OT were often different then that of what Yeshua/Jesus taught, but were all "mixed together" as the same being. The Egyptian/Hebrew/Babylonian is found mostly in the OT, not in the NT.


Clear Blue Sky wrote:what then is your explanation as to why his twelve disciples (who are alledged to have written the gospels but may not have) and the letters of a one Saul of Tarsus who supposedly encoutnered Jesus in his ascended/spiritual state (flash of light, voice talking) not mention this Mystery School Diploma? The teachers who taught are not mentioned. The text he quotes is out of Hebrew Scripture. And there seemed to be a power manifestatin of the Direct-Connect, rather than the knack of arcana. and when the multitude received the gift of the Spirit and understanding each others language, it was without ritual or mysteries it just happened boldly.

I once visited an Egyptian museum display; got a peculiar energy off of two artificats. One a seated cat statue and the other a huge sarcophagus/ossuary big square hollow stone thing. massive. I felt sorry for the big stone coffin energy -- it felt so powerful but so bound had been holding on for so long. be the Rock for all eternity perhaps..... it did not know how to let go and breathe and be and be free again. midn you, it could have been some goofy sub-sonic vibe gadget the museum had wired up.



This is EXACTLY right. When I talk about mystery schools, I am not talking about CURRENT interpretation of mystery schools. IMO this is where the Masons/Rosicrucians/OTO/AA and others have gone wrong today. Their stuff became incredibly ritualistic and based on "externalized" soft technology of rudimentary Magick...... This is mid to low level teachings.

The things you are taking about, is EXACTLY how Yeshua taught, and was taught, and as well as many of the Siddhas of the East also learn their stuff. It is INTERNAL KINGDOM, INTERNAL LAW, the other stuff is rudimentary and taught in the lower levels to train will power and other things. Like any true mystery school- there comes a point where scholarship, intellectualism, all that FLIES out the window.

The experience becomes about PURE visions, about the direct-connect. This is my whole point!

Not about rituals, robes, and all that nonsense. This is what Yeshua wanted to teach people how to do. Direct connection to God. No middle man, no ritual or pentagram needed!

I hope this clears things up. The GREATEST mysteries, and its teachings are those that are based on the pure aspects. Which is simply, well simple....how to connect directly with God. How to open your energy channels. How to be One with Creation. Love, Compassion. So on and so forth. But the track to get to the perfected state that Yeshua reached, and a few others reached is by no means a simple road. One is tested over and over and over. Like Yeshua in the desert. Like Buddha with Maya. This is metaphorical of the life of just about anyone...we are all tested.

Imagine Yeshua was born, and he learned all this knowledge...from these supposed esteemed mystery schools and then goes "well lots of this is a bunch of bull%#%" Just joking of course. But he knew, and understood the true meaning behind the teachings- did not see the point in hiding it from the common folk, and knew the whole elitism thing was a sham! He also knew that people were taking the sacred teaching to literally....and ritualistically. When people found out he had a woman, a wife, was free spirited and wanted to teach everyone....it was like utter blasphemy.

And same thing happens today in religion.....again, whether its Hindu or Catholicism, even Buddhism. Strict tenants/guidelines are followed without understanding WHY.

D a n e wrote:Yeah, it is tricky. lol and for Kundalini. I have been reading a couple books and they all make it seem a if it's very dangerous for someone that's not ready spiritually. and I am not sure if I'm ready. But it's worth a try. What could it hurt? Except it killing me. lol jk


This is a fallacy, and propaganda. As long as you do it gently, safely, and trust in yourself and your teacher (or whatever) and do it appropriately its fine. You do it gently, slow, and you don't force anything. The rest is fear nonsense.

Unless you are mentally unstable, or have serious issues, then its fine. All it is is a turbo charger. You have life force energy, so called "chi." And you have kundalini, which is like a furnance or turbo charger. It literally burns through all your karma and your blockages, and amplifies your bodies natural physical and psychic energy.

In the past, when people had spontaenous kundalini awakenings or forced it open- they would sometimes lose their minds because they had no idea wtf was going on. Imagine going from a type of person that looked at reality the way the average person, and then suddenly this super intense energy moving through your spine and into your brain- changing everything in an instant. It's disorienting, and yes, in some cases dangerous.

But if you are prepared...and you know all this stuff exists- it's harmless. It's like....just taking a step up. You can crank it up, or you can stop it altogether.
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The mysteries are so convoluted, I mean, the different systems would click if they shared with one another. Withholding information from a being is a form of mind control. I let beings of the ethereal pass through me all the time to reach doors I have opened. I always glean their knowledge on levels of my own mind and I am careful to tell them I will be taking all the information they hold to my own self and I will share it openly. I steal everything but their wallets, sometimes I even take their wallets just to show that I can. Most of the trouble this world has experienced is rooted in religious powers vying for patrons and the learned holding their knowledge to themselves.
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Exactly TMT, that's what I'm saying!

My preference is on the inner mysteries.

How to connect with God.

How to rely on ones own power, and not of other entities or rituals even.

How to be in the moment

How to use will power

How to project energy.

How to draw in energy

And knowledge so that whatever I do, I know full well what I'm doing and am responsible for the consequences.

Many people here, I think when I mention the mysteries think I'm mentioning pentagrams, evocations, demonic entities, and pagan worship. I most certainly am not. Just like not all religious people since hallelujah and think gay people are going to hell. It's a judgement we make from ignorance on the subject- but only because its hard to get any information on it to begin with.

As you said, they don't share.

And also, they have different philosophies.

They become Cults.

And they get trapped in the ego- oh look how ancient my secret society is! Look how esteemed its members are.....

I like Yeshua/Jesus, because he was pure. He understood everything with no BS. He understood the direct connection not this hierarchy nonsense.

There is a reason why so many Pharisees, especially those at Alexandria saw him as a threat. Because at the time they were the ones who held the secret teachings. They were the ones who studied all their lives, circumcised, prayed, ritualized everything into a "perfect" practice in devotion to some externalized God.

Yeshua/Jesus, like a true hippie came and said WTF are you doing? Why are all these people starving, why are women being treated like harlots? Why are you keeping this knowledge from others?

Christians today, when he confronts them believe that Yeshua was telling them they didn't have the right, that he was the "true God." But I personally believe, it was more along the lines that "you think you are Gods, but this knowledge belongs to us all." The old passage where some of the Hebrew Priests were told know ye, that ye are gods, it was referring to all of humanity. Yeshua calls them out on it- that it does not solely belong to those esteemed Pharisees.

Furthermore, he also broke lots of traditional dogma at the time of the "Hebrew Laws," and openly taught knowledge of the Essanes.

His idea of spirituality was pure, not religious IMO.....

This is what I model my "faith" after. Not after what religion wants me to believe about him.
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hello AmentiHall, can u able to see me now?
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Yes GI :)

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