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Reply With QuotePrehistoric nuclear reactor at Oklo, Gabon republic in Africa
Here at s8int.com, we smell a rat. Below in an article entitled "Oklo, An Unappreciated Cosmic Phenomenom", "science" has applied several of its tried and true methodologies to "orthodoxize" that which otherwise would be a very strange and startling occurrence.
If you could go back and read the news and scientific articles at the time, you could contrast the shock, dismay and confusion caused by the initial announcement that nuclear material had been mined in the past and that the byproduct plutonium had been created at Oklo, --with the blase way the exlanation for the phenomenon is presented today.
In 1972, a French analyst named Bougzigues working at the Pierrelatte nuclear fuel processing plant detected a small but significant change in an important ratio between Uranium 235 and Uranium 238. The proper ratio is well known and well established in that field so that the change indicated that something way out of the ordinary was going on.
The initial suspicion was that someone had included spent fuel in with the recently mined ore. This was quickly ruled out because there was no radiation signature associated with the mystery uranium..
The mystery uranium was eventually traced back to the Gabon mine at Oklo. You need to understand that what was so incredible was that a nuclear reaction had occurred such that plutonium was created and that the nuclear reaction itself had been “moderated”! This means that once a reaction is initated, if you want to harness the power output in a controlled manner, you had better be able to keep it from exploding and releasing all the energy at once. .
At that time, people were speculating about aliens and advanced ancient civilizations. Some months after the discovery rocked the scientific world, someone came up with a somewhat dubious explanation which over time has taken on the patina of absolute certainty. It was a natural reactor which occurred billions of years ago. .
There are at least six zones of depleted uranium (usually means mined)with plutonium as a by product! You've got to really be trying to manufacture plutonium--its a complicated process.
Yet,scientists studying these zones have A Prori of course, decided not to consider that man was involved.
1)They place its occurrence safely "billions" of years ago. 2)They assume that a breeding reaction could occur naturally when no such evidence of that exists and creating a breeder reactor was once a technological holy grail which was diificult to achieve on purpose 3)They theorize that although it must have happened naturally in the distant past, that we need not worry about it occurring now, as conditions differ.4)Nature designed the reactor such that its spent fuel and dangerous byproducts were "contained".
Scientists use the principal of uniformism to draw conclusions about the future and the past. If they cannot use this "principle", then they can not draw any conclusions because they could not state that the conditions in the universe that exist now, always existed.
Here though as often happens, they have to assume that the past was vastly different as it related to the possibility of naturally occurring breeder reactions.
Again, scientists from other countries were skeptical when first hearing of these natural nuclear reactors. Some argued that the missing amounts of U-235 had been displaced over time, not split in nuclear fission reactions. "How," they asked, "could fission reactions happen in nature, when such a high degree of engineering, physics, and acute, detailed attention went into building a nuclear reactor?"
Perrin and the other French scientists concluded that the only other uranium samples with similar levels of the isotopes found at Oklo could be found in the used nuclear fuel produced by modern reactors. They found that the percentages of many isotopes at Oklo strongly resembled those in the spent fuel generated by nuclear power plants,
Interesting info on the remains of one of the oldest cities ever found-
When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities, many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant, horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in the streets of the city.
And these skeletons are thousands of years old, even by traditional archaeological standards. What could cause such a thing? Why did the bodies not decay or get eaten by wild animals? Furthermore, there is no apparent cause of a physically violent death.
These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal.
Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by an atomic blast
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Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity.
No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site. David Hatcher Childress in Nexus Magazine
Caucasian mummies found in South America in a deep underground tunnel 85 feet underground. They were the Chachapoyas and the incans called them "the people of the clouds" becasue they lived among the clouds in remote areas. The "Bearing Strait" land bridge theory is now down the toilet lol!.
http://www.meta-religion.com/Archaeo...ies_amazon.htm
Aaaahhhh!
South american cenotes, sinkholes, and underground tunnels
http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/02/23/trave...pes/23Cave.html
Trim the jungle down to its roots, scrape away 10,000 years of sediment and mud, and the northern Yucatán is a billion-hole brick of porous stone, flat as a tortilla with hardly a lake in sight. Rivers are practically nonexistent. The area’s odd geology — a subterranean universe of caverns, karst tunnels and cenotes, some hundreds of feet deep — has created a landscape found at few other places on the planet.
“Cenotes are to the Yucatán Peninsula what the Alps are to Switzerland,” said Sam Meacham, director of Centro Investigador del Sistema Acuífero de Quintana Roo, or Cindaq, a nonprofit scientific and educational organization based in Playa del Carmen. “Similar features exist in other parts of the world; however, not in the abundance or natural beauty that we have here.”
Many prehistoric creatures can even be found in these underground tunnels
http://www.mammothsite.com/Tour.html
Yeah Science basically doesn't know what it's talking about-
http://www.backyardnature.net/n/05/050102.htm
http://www.gue.com/Exploration/Cave/q3_3c.htm
Incan farming-
Modern mining
Modern sinkholes
I remember seeing on a show something about the layout of the places where the pyramids were built on different continents, Egypt and mexico , being 1/100,000th of the earths suface, perhaps using earth meridians, no one knew for sure how they measured it
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm
Clearly if we want to have a greater understanding of relgion and the history of religon, human origins, "the garden of Eden", etc., then we have to study many flood myths all around the world to find independant corroboration and correlations between stories. Obviously one of the most important relevant flood myths to study then, is the story of Atlantis
The base of the Pyramid at Teotahuacan and the Great Pyramid of Giza-, are the exact same size btw.
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhyB7kg_5Y...related&search=
Now, here is something quite shocking to science! Mexican and Central american style step-pyramids found in the Canary islands on the other side of the Atlantic, closer to Spain than to Mexico. Discovered by Dr. Heyerdahl who has done extensive research on the pyramids of Peru
http://www.ferco.org/ferco_pyramids.html
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...s.php?id=58855
http://www.crystalinks.com/pyramidspain.html
and
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/G...Pyramid-of-Giza
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/M...ematical-Papyri
Originally the Pyramids had a nice shiny outer coating, and capstones at the top.
Even today, possibly 10s of thousands of years later, they dwarf modern Cairo buildings. The bottom layout area is larger than many many football fields. Each layer is perfectly level.
Chinese and Tibetan Pyramids.
Redating the sphinx-
http://members.aol.com/davidpb4/sphinx1.html
http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/
Also, Atlantis is associated with Egypt in some cases. The knowledge of the history about it is said to come from Egypt, who kept records of Atlantis' existence. The ancient Greeks thought Giza to be a wonder of the ancient world,
http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/
http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/giza_update.html
And"2. Tunnels & Chambers Under The Great Sphinx
(I) In a series of expeditions between 1991 and 1993 led by John Anthony West, and independent Egyptologist, scientific investigators conducted geological and seismic surveys around the Great Sphinx of Egypt. The chief geologist was Dr. Robert Schoch, Professor of Geology at Boston University, and the chief seismologist was Thomas Dobecki from the highly-respected Houston consulting firm, McBride-Ratclif & Associates.
(II) The team's conclusions were as follows:
A. Geology, The pattern of erosion on the Sphinx indicates that it was carved at the end of the last Ice Age, when heavy rains fell in the eastern Sahara - perhaps more than 12,000 years ago. This contrasts starkly with the 'orthodox' Egyptological dating for the Sphinx of around 4,500 years ago.
B. Seismography. The seismic survey indicated the existence of several unexplored tunnels and cavities in the bedrock beneath the Sphinx, including a large rectangular chamber at a depth of some 25 feet beneath the monuments front paws."
http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journ...tumn/Sphinx04/" The idea of there being a secret chamber buried somewhere beneath the Sphinx was first popularized by renowned psychic Edgar Cayce in 1932. Cayce believed that this secret chamber contained an ancient Hall of Records, which contained, among other things, manuscripts detailing the history of mankind much further back than we are currently aware - possibly even back to the world before the Flood. He also predicted that the Hall would be discovered sometime around the year 2000.
In recent years, this prophecy may have come true. Scientists using an array of techniques, searching on and around the Sphinx, have discovered one or more large, box-shaped, hollow areas just below the Sphinx. One of these enclosures is located beneath of the paws of the Sphinx, just where Cayce had predicted the Hall of Records would be found. Bauval explains,
The Giza necropolis, it seems, has finally decided to discharge all its secrets at once. For not far from the Great Pyramid, in a shallow enclave to the East, is the Great Sphinx. It, too, may be guarding a treasure-trove under its belly: a "Hall of Records" of a civilization long lost in the mist of time. There, too, with amazing synchronicity, an entrance to such a vault has been known since 1993. Why have these "chambers" not yet been opened? What could be within them? Could the Egyptian authorities know more than they are letting on?"
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/phoenix/h...ecordsfront.htm
From the Egyptologists themselves
http://www.towers-online.co.uk/pages/sphinx.htm
ProofFlorida State University, on behalf of the Schor Expedition, carried out a remote sensing survey around the Sphinx and elsewhere on the plateau for three weeks in April 1996. They claimed to have found "rooms and tunnels" in front of the Sphinx and running from the rear of the Sphinx. Several other projects have made similar claims:
SRI International did an electrical resistivity and acoustical survey in 1977-78.
In 1987 a Japanese team from Waseda University (Tokyo), under the direction of Sakuji Yoshimura carried out an electromagnetic sounding survey of the Khufu Pyramid and Sphinx. They reported evidence of a tunnel oriented north-south under the Sphinx, a water pocket 2.5 to 3 m below surface near the south hind paw, and another cavity near the north hind paw.
In 1991 a team consisting of geologist Robert Schoch (Boston University), Thomas Dobecki, and John Anthony West carried out a survey of the Sphinx using seismic refraction, refraction tomography, and seismic reflection. The investigators interpreted their data to indicate shallower subsurface weathering patterns toward the back and deeper weathering toward the front, which they take to indicate that the back of the Sphinx and its ditch were carved by Khafre later than the front. They interpret their data to likewise indicate subsurface cavities in front of the front left paw, and from the left paw back along the south flank.
We cannot give permission to dig into the natural rock of the Sphinx, or to drill into the Sphinx on the basis of anomalies, especially now that our highest priority is to conserve the Sphinx. Remote sensing programs should anyway be carried out elsewhere to test the techniques, and to demonstrate that it works before it is used to make sensational claims of secret rooms in the Sphinx.
Meanwhile, we struggle in our department to save the Sphinx and many other sites and monuments for future generations. We work hard to organize the site for tourism, so all can enjoy our monuments, and we try to balance tourism with conservation. But now other priorities are far more urgent, and we cannot allow digging and drilling into the Sphinx on the off-chance that somehow we have missed the only evidence of a lost civilization!"
it appears something fishy is going on at Giza, something is being covered up for sure
from-
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/HO-OSIRIS.html
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/Kham.html
"The previous photographs of this area, showed the sarcophagus to be surrounded by solid dirt. Non of the water is evident in Dr.. Borris Said's photographs from 1997.
1999 as seen on live tv, all this water magically appeared there, and they claim ithey found it like that. But the previous site I linked shows there was no pillars or water there in 1997
Article on the Pyramids
http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/eg...t_pyramid.html
Pyramids had two purposes. One was for a final spiritual initiation. The long hallway up the pyramid, at one time had magnificent images along it of the stages of spiritual development and the Tarot images. The initiate would be placed in total darkness in the pyramid with a certain ointment on them, and a final enlightenment or near( or complete) death experience would be brought on.
They were also power plants. At the very top of the pyramids was placed a capstone of gold with a crystal(maybe quartz?) in it, which I think absorbed and focused rays from the sun. In the center of the pyramid would be placed a large electric capacitor. With the power of the capacitor, and the crystal at the top. Anyways, I'm not too great at explaining or understanding all the exact details. But the Pyramids allowed wireless tranmission to power lights and vehicles, or ships even at one time, without wires or fuel.
They were actually built 10,500 BC as opposed to the conventional dating of 2,500 BC. Underneath the Sphinx is Grandmaster Thoth's terrestial airship. In recent times Dr. Robert Schoch and John Anthony West discovered the rain weathering patterns on the Sphinx provides hard evidence that that type of weathering could only happen from 10,000 BC to 5000 BC. Author Graham Hancock has demonstrated that the shafts of the Great Pyramid point directly to certain stars and contellations. But it doesn't match the stars in 2,500 BC, it matches the sky in 10,500 BC.
Also, I think I remember reading that there isn't even supposed to be granite in those parts of the sea near Cuba, Florida or Mexico. On a Graham Hancock show I remember him interviewing an old man who remembered tons of granite being excavated and taken from the bimini road area in like the 30s or 40s.
On each corner of the the bimini blocks, are very manmade looking sort of small pillars or legs, holding the blocks 6 inches or a foot above the ground.
http://edgarcayce.org/am/androspressrelea.html
http://edgarcayce.org/am/biminiexpedition.html
Site tht talks about the A.R.E's ( association for research and enlightenment)
search for one of the "hall of records".
http://www.mysterious-america.net/hallofrecords.html
This chapter talks about ancient technology that was used in pyramids-
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/19.htm
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