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    God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost - God

    Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

    Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

    Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

    Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

    Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

    Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.


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    Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

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    Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

    Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

    Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

    Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

    Matthew 8:8 The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.

    Acts 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

    Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

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    A bunch of astrological symbolism mixed with mans earlier struggles to define life after death. I find it interesting how many combinations of informatino one can extract from biblical passages - but no answers.

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    There is no 'astrological symbolism'.

    The Bible contains many answers.

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    I don't mean to offend. I am curious though if you will allow me to ask a few question? Have an open exchange?

    You should watch the documentaray entitled "Zeitgiest"; God, The SOn=The sun, 3 kings=orions belt, cultural similarities with the old testament story, ages of the bull, ram and aquarius - too much too ignore. But I am making pot-shots at 1 view of the empire of the institutions of religion, and realize there are many different and as real sides.

    I was born into strict Roman Catholic family. But after years of puring my intent and effort into it - (most of it forced and chore'like) the only answers I received were what I figured out myself. What answers does the Bible give you?

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    Hunter, could you please cite the version of the Bible you are using?
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    Genesis 1: 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have donminion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (King James Version)

    Seems like an awful lot of plurals for One God doesn't it? Oh and did anyone else notice the plural reference to man as well?

    Two people in a religious or spiritual debate, taking opposing viewpoints on a given subject can use The Bible to support each side of that debate, each just as convincingly. If you don't believe me, read some Elaine Pagels, particularly "ADAM, EVE and the SERPENT" (Not shouting, that's the way it's writen on the cover)

    The thing is that I'm not putting the Bible down, nor am I attacking anyone or any idea, just offering caution that it's a very obscure and enigmatic book which can be taken in so many ways it's difficult to take any one hard line stance on any subject based solely on "The Bible". In my oppinion.

    My question at this point would be: Is there a question or a point to the original post? It too seems to bounce back and forth between "One only" and trinity.

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    King James Version.

    The King James Version is the most accurately translated from the original languages.

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    I do not by any means, mean to be offensive, but I would really like to know how you can honestly believe in the bible. When I read it for the first time, please take no offense - this is just my opinion, it sounded like a wild bedtime story gone wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterC View Post
    King James Version.

    The King James Version is the most accurately translated from the original languages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterC View Post
    King James Version.

    The King James Version is the most accurately translated from the original languages.

    .................................................. .................................................. ...........yea.....

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    I do not by any means, mean to be offensive, but I would really like to know how you can honestly believe in the bible. When I read it for the first time, please take no offense - this is just my opinion, it sounded like a wild bedtime story gone wrong.


    It's actually a really once, extremely accurately true thing, to things astrological, symbolic, and SOME things "literal"mixed together from previous religions and belief systems- and THEN it went wrong.

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    Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

    Hmm doesn't the bible teach forgiveness that doesn't sound very forgiving to me
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    Lucifer, who is Satan, was not forgiven.

    Isaiah 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

    Isaiah 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

    Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

    Isaiah 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

    Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

    Isaiah 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

    Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

    Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

    Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

    Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

    Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

    Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

    Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

    Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

    Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

    Exodus 19:10 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,

    Exodus 19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

    Exodus 19:12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:

    Exodus 19:13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.

    Exodus 19:14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.

    Exodus 19:15 And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.

    Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

    Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

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    Love Jesus, crown him your Lord and God, that you may be saved. Understand who he is.

    Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

    Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

    Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

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    hmm no thanks i want nothing to do with that vengeful hate filled god
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum View Post
    hmm no thanks i want nothing to do with that vengeful hate filled god
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    God said he doesn't do that kind of stuff much anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterC View Post
    King James Version.
    The King James Version is the most accurately translated from the original languages.
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    The KJ bible was written by over 150 Clerics from 150 different Christian religious groups
    that had split from the Vatican view. It is a very political document, if you study the times
    in which it was compiled.

    The "Original-Word-Of-God" was just that . . .
    A very large set of scrolls written as "oneword"
    without any spaces between any group of letters. . . . .

    [It was even hard to keep the scrolls in order, no page numbers.]
    It is generally thought, that the closest book derived from the final copy of
    only 5 or 6 translations from 5 or 6 different languages, [the original was lost]
    would be the Greek Orthodox Bible..

    Be in harmony,
    be in beauty.
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    note,
    The one word style is common
    with telepathic societies. . . . . ;-)
    beauty,
    pc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum View Post
    Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

    Hmm doesn't the bible teach forgiveness that doesn't sound very forgiving to me
    Then greater understanding of what speaking against the Holy Ghost must be brought into focus.

    Don't go to hell Rum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterC View Post
    Lucifer, who is Satan, was not forgiven.

    Isaiah 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

    Isaiah 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

    Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

    Isaiah 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

    Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

    Isaiah 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

    Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

    Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

    Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

    Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

    Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

    Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

    Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

    Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

    Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

    Exodus 19:10 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,

    Exodus 19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

    Exodus 19:12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:

    Exodus 19:13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.

    Exodus 19:14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.

    Exodus 19:15 And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.

    Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

    Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

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    Love Jesus, crown him your Lord and God, that you may be saved. Understand who he is.

    Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

    Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

    Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
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    For of the writing of books there is no end....

    The Bible is a book.

    God is not a book.

    Jesus is not a book.

    "It is written...... []..... but I say unto you . . .. . "

    The first commandment is to love God with all your heart, all your strength, mind, soul, understnadin. And the second is Like it: To Love your Neighbor as Yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmentiHall View Post
    Then greater understanding of what speaking against the Holy Ghost must be brought into focus.

    Don't go to hell Rum!

    It is possible to love God and not believe the bible, at least not all of it as i do believe there is a great deal of truth written within its pages, however i also think a lot was added that was not divinely inspired and also a lot left out that should have been included.
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