lol @ " psycho carrothead"
I'm sorry I thought it was funny..
Also I chuckle when people say "the world is becoming a dangerous place". In Actuality there world has always been dangerous.
lol @ " psycho carrothead"
I'm sorry I thought it was funny..
Also I chuckle when people say "the world is becoming a dangerous place". In Actuality there world has always been dangerous.
Statistically the world is becoming a safer place as compared to previous centuries.
Here's a question... do you think he went crazy? Or do you think he's faking crazy?
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lol or maybe just one.Originally Posted by gardener
I find it funny you are trying to justify taking away perhaps the only method they would of had to defend themselves.
Oh and psycho carrothead was not acting alone.
Now you are just arguing details without getting to the issue.
All of this comes from personal emotional involvement. I get it.
You would rather just have them all sit there and get hammered with semi-automatic weapons with no hope of defending themselves. Good for you.
You can put all your personal beliefs and continue to throw them at me. But you are not going to convince me that taking away the right for citizens to bear arms is a good idea. The government does good enough on killing people, and bakrupting us for paying the people who make the guns. People are about to enter an Orwellian state and now one of the few means to defend themselves will be step by step- regulated and taken away. Blaming gun rights for one psychopaths murdering spree is silly...because he would have done it anyways- just like the gov does, just like the gangs do.
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There is one sad thing coming from all this : fear. Many people are buying up guns now because of this event. Others are rallying behind the gun ban because of their kids, and/or the fear generated from such a tragic event.
More of these MK ultra sleepers will pop up. And some murders will happen from paranoia...people who are turning on one another because of the fear that they don't even feel safe going to a movie anymore.
Classic formula of implenting the steps for Chaos, and then Order afterwards. The easiest way to manipulate the sheepish, animalistic human beings.
He's either been mind controlled, or he's faking crazy to get insanity plea. He admitted to not being able to remember a single thing. He wasn't just acting psychotic in courtroom, he was completely dissacociated.
In the released news reports of him, and his mentor, he expressed what he was interested in the most. This was when he was graduating...and I believe he received one out of a dozen government funded grants for his PhD education on Neuroscience.
Temporal Illusions
Subjective Reality
Changing Past by modifying brain.
All aspects of mind control, BTW.
Right on brother.
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Check this out, it happened this weekend:If the people in that movie theater had guns- there would be a lot less dead people.
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Yeah, This dumb ass was really listening to you..........brilliant idea.Thornton Police arrested a 48-year-old man after he alarmed movie goers and theater staff for openly carrying a gun into the theater complex.
James G. Mapes was arrested Sunday night at Cinebarre Movie Theater and about 40 people were evacuated as a precaution after he was seen carrying a handgun on his waist in "an open carry postion, visible to others," Thornton Police said in a statement.
"I was a threat to no one, I didn't threaten anybody," Mapes said."
Maybe we should all carry guns like in the old wild west. I'm sure that the NRA is considering some kind of legislation.
That's already happening on regular basis, if you haven't notice. Two options:You would rather just have them all sit there and get hammered with semi-automatic weapons with no hope of defending themselves. Good for you.
1-Arm everyone and good luck, because this place will become like the "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"
2-Get rid of all the guns, including the "semi-automatic weapons" and we may become more like Australia for instance...(1.88 overall homicide rate per 100K of populations against 9.1 for the US)
Gun ban was a godsend for Australia
| November 9th, 2007
PRIME Minister John Howard understood perfectly, back in 1996, why Australia had to ban guns from most households.
With the grief of the Port Arthur massacre still washing through the nation, the PM seized the opportunity to take firearms away from those who didn't really need them. His legislation cost Australia more than $500 million in a guns buy-back scheme and resulted in more than 650,000 weapons being taken out of the hands of owners.
The 35 people who died at Port Arthur weren't the only reasons for the move.
About 100 people had been killed in multiple shootings during the previous decade, and the trend for gun violence in Australia was worryingly like that of the United States, where mass murders by gunshot were -- and are -- commonplace.
There is no way of knowing whether Mr Howard's gutsy move has prevented another Port Arthur, but thinning the number of unnecessary guns in our society surely has lessened the chances of such a tragedy happening again on such a terrible scale.
It is no coincidence that this week's school massacre in Finland, claiming the lives of eight students -- including the shooter -- and the headmistress, happened in a country where gun possession is taken for granted. Finland has the world's third highest gun ownership, ranking behind the United States and Yemen.
When he restricted gun ownership, Mr Howard also may have glimpsed the way society was developing -- the rising anger of youth, the decay of discipline in schools and the general erosion of authority.
American schools have become a proving ground for what could have happened here, the difference being that guns thankfully are no longer a major part of the Australian way of life. Ways to helpWe always going to have psychopaths, but take the guns away and see how effective the psychopaths can be.Blaming gun rights for one psychopaths murdering spree is silly...because he would have done it anyways- just like the gov does, just like the gangs do.
Last edited by gardener; 07-31-2012 at 06:23 AM.
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Yea, like you can take all the guns away from the world....lol
A psychopath is going to kill no matter what. He can get guns from many places besides official sources. Many believe he was helped by intelligence agencies, so you have the possibility of getting training, guns, and other things from the government itself. Just like they gave all those guns to mexico and "lost" them.
Sure the UN will do that, the government will do that! Meanwhile they keep buying up guns and sending people off to war to unnecessary battle.
You are showing things that happened afterwards, when everyone is already batshit scared. And why ever wear the gun so other people can see it? That's just retarded. More proof of the fear and paranoia enabled by this event.
You are promoting australia but their internet is censored and their government is just as fucked, they put boxes in their homes that transmit all information and emit harmful energies/frequencies and MUCH more. They can take away your pitbuls and deem them killers, putting them to sleep. Move to Australia if that's the kind of world you want to live in, so that you can feel more "safe." BTW I love Australia, in particular their nature and wild lifeBut their government sucks just like ours.
Thank you.
I'll never understand people who think taking civil liberties away from the people is a way to stop violence. Especially when the people who are trying to take those rights away are contributing just as much to killing and exploiting everyone else.
Last edited by AmentiHall; 07-31-2012 at 07:13 PM.
Well, here's my take on it. I don't believe that our spirit family, would let mind control happen. I just don't. But what I do believe, is that if someone were meant to do something "bad", for the sake of whatever it is (learning? compassion? whatever the reason is that bad things are allowed to happen) that they might be "granted" temporary legitimate insanity so that the job gets done.
However, at the same point... I would think that if you have this sort of "contract" with the universe (whatever you want to call it), that you would be doing yourself a disservice to not remember doing something so life changing.... on other people's lives, and yourself.
So if he really did go temporarily insane... that's a big chunk of time to do so. I mean you know he took the time to construct those explosives, to even gather the equipment for it, to collect pieces for his costume... to setup everything he did to make "his story". He was quite dramatic. If he was "mind controlled"... the entity doing the mind controlling would have no purpose for the drama, in my opinion -just get straight to the killing; and if it did, I would think the entity would want some sort of recognition, like, "yeah, I did that."
I think this kid spent too much time on the internet, too much time wondering about 2012, too much time letting people feed him stories... maybe secretly, deep down, he thinks that the world WILL end in december, so for now, he thinks he'll only be spending a few months in jail... but eventually, come next year, and the decades after... he'll realize otherwise. Unless they kill them, which I don't think is fair to do because that's like a reward!!!!! (at the same time I also don't like people feeding off tax payers and getting a "free ride" in jail.. but that's not the subject of this post).
I think he's faking it. From what I've seen (and I haven't seen that much because I refuse to give this man what he wants, fame, at least thats my take on it)... he looks like he was a pretty smart kid. Now look what this pretty smart kid cooked up. You can still be pretty smart and antagonistic.
So here, I feel, we have a pretty good example of what a smart kid looks like when faking insanity.
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Well, I'm sorry to say sister, but you are wrong(about the mind control)
And I don't mean to impose my view, but mind control has happened and is happening on a daily basis. Our spiritual family does not intervene, they guide, help and monitor. This is a free will universe, not a love and light universe. It is all of that and shades of grey in between. Turn on your television. Look at what we eat. What we listen to. And just in general the process of commerce, education, banking corporations and how they shape our outlook on life (as well as religion). Mind control is nothing new. In the past they would torture people until they admitted something, it is even possible that they would implant the ideas into people under extreme duress to get them to confess for being pagans or whatever.
Our spiritual family allows rape, murder, hatred, racism, wars, destruction, rape of planet and more to go on? What's so different about mind control? I guess if you wanna think about it this way- spiritually they agree to it on a higher level....but even then....
If you believe the universe would grant him temporary insanity to get the job done, why not believe the universe grants temporary insanity to people who love to mind control people into killing others, for their OWN cause- but in the end ends up being the overall cause/will of the universe? What's the difference between enabling some guy to murder a bunch of people on insanity than mind control?
I don't mean to lecture here but one of the great things I have learned is ALL things are Source/GOd, not just our narrow idea of love+light. EVERYTHING, no matter how dark or cruel is LOVED. Events like this do happen for a reason....and it is multi-faceted IMO. It is not just for some ideal of love and light that we tend to believe in our minds.
I have known people who have been traumatized, beaten, raped and more and their minds segregated for the purpose of mind control. Mind control is a very real, and dark blotch in our world that needs to not be ignored but HEALED with love. I'm tired of it being ignored by common folk because its too scary to think of, and by new agers because "love and light wouldn't allow it!" Well, guess what, it has been allowed and has been going on for decades and is extremely sophisticated at this point. Now what??
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Well, I'm sorry to say sister, but you are wrong
And I don't mean to impose my view, but mind control has happened and is happening on a daily basis. Our spiritual family does not intervene, they guide, help and monitor. This is a free will universe, not a love and light universe. It is all of that and shades of grey in between. Turn on your television. Look at what we eat. What we listen to. And just in general the process of commerce, education, banking corporations and how they shape our outlook on life (as well as religion). Mind control is nothing new. In the past they would torture people until they admitted something, it is even possible that they would implant the ideas into people under extreme duress to get them to confess for being pagans or whatever.
Our spiritual family allows rape, murder, hatred, racism, wars, destruction, rape of planet and more to go on? What's so different about mind control? I guess if you wanna think about it this way- spiritually they agree to it on a higher level....but even then....
If you believe the universe would grant him temporary insanity to get the job done, why not believe the universe grants temporary insanity to people who love to mind control people into killing others, for their OWN cause- but in the end ends up being the overall cause/will of the universe? What's the difference between enabling some guy to murder a bunch of people on insanity than mind control?
I don't mean to lecture here but one of the great things I have learned is ALL things are Source/GOd, not just our narrow idea of love+light. EVERYTHING, no matter how dark or cruel is LOVED. Events like this do happen for a reason....and it is multi-faceted IMO. It is not just for some ideal of love and light that we tend to believe in our minds.
I have known people who have been traumatized, beaten, raped and more and their minds segregated for the purpose of mind control. Mind control is a very real, and dark blotch in our world that needs to not be ignored but HEALED with love. I'm tired of it being ignored by common folk because its too scary to think of, and by new agers because "love and light wouldn't allow it!" Well, guess what, it has been allowed and has been going on for decades and is extremely sophisticated at this point. Now what??
When I originally read, "mind control" before my post... I automatically thought, "they believe aliens and spirits mind control humans"... which is why I referred to it as "entity" in the scenario that I came up with... and that's specifically what I don't believe exists. I don't believe that our minds can be taken over by some unknown entity that makes us do things that we have no recollection of. I just don't. And that's what I am referring to. - If this is what you disagree with, I'd be honored if you start a new thread with the above post so we can discuss our differing views so as not to distract from the original thread.
As far as him being mind controlled by another human, I considered that possibility to a degree, when I make mention of him possibly spending too much time on the internet... and who knows what/who he may have encountered on the web. Specially with the crazyness that's coming out of people with what's going on this year. There are a lot of cleverly manipulative people in the world, so of course there would also be on the internet. I know because I met one on this forum a few months back. When I saw the news, I actually wondered (I shit you not) if this man I met had actually gotten his hands on James Holmes, but only for a few seconds. But that led me to wonder if JH had indeed encountered someone, or multiple someone's, who may have had some influence on his actions.
But, I still feel that he's faking insanity. That this is what a smart kid looks like, when faking insanity.
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There are problems on every country and Australia is not perfect but, last year Australia was considered to be the best place to live, while the USA held in 7th place. Things taken in consideration: housing, income, jobs, community, education, civic engagement, health, life satisfaction, safety, and work-life balance.Yea, like you can take all the guns away from the world....lol
A psychopath is going to kill no matter what. He can get guns from many places besides official sources. Many believe he was helped by intelligence agencies, so you have the possibility of getting training, guns, and other things from the government itself. Just like they gave all those guns to mexico and "lost" them.
Sure the UN will do that, the government will do that! Meanwhile they keep buying up guns and sending people off to war to unnecessary battle.
You are showing things that happened afterwards, when everyone is already batshit scared. And why ever wear the gun so other people can see it? That's just retarded. More proof of the fear and paranoia enabled by this event.
You are promoting australia but their internet is censored and their government is just as fucked, they put boxes in their homes that transmit all information and emit harmful energies/frequencies and MUCH more. They can take away your pitbuls and deem them killers, putting them to sleep. Move to Australia if that's the kind of world you want to live in, so that you can feel more "safe." BTW I love Australia, in particular their nature and wild life
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I'll never understand people who think taking civil liberties away from the people is a way to stop violence. Especially when the people who are trying to take those rights away are contributing just as much to killing and exploiting everyone else.
The right to "carry a gun" is sold as a civil liberty by the very powerful gun industry (speaking of mind control), when is exactly the opposite. Guns take our liberties away, just ask that people having to evacuate the theater because of that guy with a gun. Liberty is when you can go to a movie, school, football game, restaurant, workplace, without worrying about some crazy dude with a gun shooting randomly at people.I'll never understand people who think taking civil liberties away from the people is a way to stop violence. Especially when the people who are trying to take those rights away are contributing just as much to killing and exploiting everyone else.
Last edited by gardener; 08-01-2012 at 06:08 AM.
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@ OBEsprite - I believe that Amenti was referring to 'mind control' by other humans, behind-the-scenes groups who inject their ideas into our social structures in order to create norms that suit their agendas. Or in this specific case, mind control targeting a specific individual, for political reasons. Look up "MkUltra" if you're unfamiliar with this.
gardener - The reason some people are so strongly against "gun control", is not because they like the idea of people running around shooting each other. It is because said people realize what could/would happen if the entire civilian populace lost the right to have guns, but the police, military, etc, still had guns. Do you see where I'm going with this? The fact is that guns exist, the idea of guns exists, therefore they will be available to people, whether its from wal-mart of from the black market. Street drugs are illegal and look how prevalent they still are. What we should be focusing on is changing the way people think and treat each other, not banning everything which has the potential to be misused. Baseball bats can kill people too, should we ban the game of baseball?
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Last edited by overflow88; 08-01-2012 at 08:50 PM.
Exactly. It's just the common sense of eliminating the legal right to bear arms- won't get rid of guns. I WISH. If getting rid of the citizens right to bear arms, would get rid of guns and violence forever. I would be RIGHT on board forever and ever.
But that's not the world we live in. and legal gun-bearers are hardly the cause of the nations violence. It sure as hell won't make the world peaceful.It will just give certain groups of people the upper hand.
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Obe not surprising. Yea I meant mind controlled by a government, and/or rougue group in the infrastructure of the shadow government. Which is more common than you and I would like to believe.
Whether he's just insane, or is riding insanity plea, and/or mind controlled is not important to me. Its just as bad.
Also, John Holmes that showed up in court looks nothing like John Holmes from the university released picture of him. Different nose, different eyebrows, eyes, everything.
He looks like he has been lobotomized. I recently read a story proposing the idea that maybe he was not even the shooter, but was set up. Keep in mind the shooter was wearing a mask. Also, Holmes' mugshot was not taken until 3 days after his arrest, when he began his trial, allegedly because he was too drugged to even stand up when he was found.
I heard a similar story, and yes the details of the event are rather sketchy. But in time the truth will reveal itself, it cant hide forever.
Though the course may change sometimes, Rivers always reach the sea...
Noticed that too! it's totally different.
Though the course may change sometimes, Rivers always reach the sea...
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