First contact on 4th of August?

[tmt]

It is my understanding there were variious closed door meetings with off-worlders and the powers that be on our planet. Apparently, they pushed back any disclosure for after 12/21/12; to avoid paranoia related to "end of the world" hysteria. A lot of ancient beings and travelers from other realms are present, at their own gathering which has been ongoing for about 2 or 3 months now. More just keep coming in day by day and they are in a splendid mood, seeing old friends/family. They view our world as their concern in that most have offered their help in different ages of humanity (though some of their help actually caused harm in the long run). They are impatient for us to "graduate" to a more active universal people, seeing beyond our petty world conflicts and focusing on the greater universal impact our worlds have on one another. The thought is that our unending cycles of war and hate will fall to the wayside once we are cognizant of and in open communication with off-worlders.

[rabana]

i regard these matters as a giant virtual sci-fi game. i say game but it is real also, if only in that there are so many fellow followers. thats its fascination.. it doesn't matter to me what is true and what isn't because to me it is an exercise in utopian thought and therefore of value. i have had enough interdimensional contact in this lifetime to navigate myself thru this information. i feel that its is worth pursuing. what is not worth pursuing is the conventional media view of whats going on on this planet, or any of the viewpoints that are fearful or hateful.

no matter what point of view you take on current events, or on the nature of reality itself, your viewpoint is unprovable, nor is it superior to anyone else's. you might as well take yours and (respectfully) run with it. that is what the internet has done for us.

[ZZ23]

TBH... I've never felt much ... truth in the entire theory of the plebian whatever.

The ASHTAR command just seems to me to be too much of a spin off of Star Trek.

I mean... come on, y'all can't say its never felt that way to you right?

However, I am inclined to believe in interference from "third" parties.
How could I not? With the amount of religious gobbly gook that constantly
talks about the interaction between us, and "higher" beings.

Its all "third" party, no matter how you spin it.

I am of course not discounting the possibility of other "races", i'm just saying
that if they were coming to earth. It perhaps would not be for a mutually beneficial reason.

[ZZ23]

Saying that, I do believe things are about to kick off.
Things in this world are about to get a little hairy.
From what I see, its more along the lines of a WW3 proportion.

The real question I have is, will this war be the final push to the "transcendence" we all search for... constantly?
Or will it finally be the end all be all, that kills us all.

[Psychic Child]

In theory the Bad Guys and the Earth power brokers have
lost their Galactic/inter-Galactic support. Their "contract"
to develop earth has expired. There is a transition time
that is starting now as the power brokers try to maneuver
with the new contract holders.

The new Off-World Planning Board has been meeting, with
updates from observers on the attitude of our population.
There will be more rumors of disclosure to "cry wolf" then
the real "Disclosure" will be given at the UN. As weak as
the UN is, it is representative of earths governing bodies.
;-) ;-) ;-)
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[OBEsprite]

The ASHTAR command just seems to me to be too much of a spin off of Star Trek.

I mean... come on, y'all can't say its never felt that way to you right?

luls.

I try to be nice, but I imagine them sitting at home with aluminum foiled hats. I've engaged with their internet members, and most of them don't seem completely stupid after you get them to express their view of it all. Most of them are finally starting to question their channelers, some are finally getting pissed off about all the wrong shit they keep saying about predictions. Some of them are finally realizing that just because someone calls themselves a channeler, doesn't mean they really are.

[Psychic Child]

luls.

I try to be nice, but I imagine them sitting at home with aluminum foiled hats. I've engaged with their internet members, and most of them don't seem completely stupid after you get them to express their view of it all. Most of them are finally starting to question their channelers, some are finally getting pissed off about all the wrong shit they keep saying about predictions. Some of them are finally realizing that just because someone calls themselves a channeler, doesn't mean they really are.

OBE,
You are right about channeled Beings. Some of them
are like the _IS_ trolls just looking for a reaction.

Any time someone tries to predict the future more
than a day ahead, they need be sure which future
belongs to who.
There are so many "Futures" and so many "Now's" It
is not easy to match them up correctly. With all the
possible outside influences, even predicting an hour
ahead can be iffy.
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger
note:
Ever had a "close-call-near-accident"?
A second or two sooner at that point
and you could have been a pancake?
"That was lucky" . . you said

Then you thought back to where you were
delayed for that two seconds? And you thought
wow, if I hadn't of . . . . I could have been killed.
;-) ;-)
A random influence of the future that changed everything.
Now . . . . .
. . . .Of course
there is The Other explanation . . .
that is . . . . It was your Angel
or even your God that intervened to save your life . .
beauty,
pc.

[Psychic Child]

Oh, and OBE,
Foil hats and foil vests will protect you from Micro-waves,
via wireless energy computer routers or cell phone towers . . . .
But does not protect you from Human or Alien thoughts,
only a psi-shield can do that.
;-)
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[tmt]

I love how we used to use tinfoil to get better reception on our old tvs with the bunny ear antennas but they are supposed to block a signal from et.

The whole exercise of disclosure as a staging ground to introduce lightworkers to off-world lightworkers is moot, in my opinion. The off-worlders already have established contacts and identified spiritual workers that they actively interact with. Introducing themselves at a public event with world leaders validating them is not going to make more lightworkers available or create any stronger vibration. If one needs to see to believe, their energy contribution is not going to be very strong or stolid. Better to just increase their interaction at small grassroots level, in my opinion.

luls.

I try to be nice, but I imagine them sitting at home with aluminum foiled hats. I've engaged with their internet members, and most of them don't seem completely stupid after you get them to express their view of it all. Most of them are finally starting to question their channelers, some are finally getting pissed off about all the wrong shit they keep saying about predictions. Some of them are finally realizing that just because someone calls themselves a channeler, doesn't mean they really are.

[tmt]

I think President Reagan at the Berlin Wall came the closest to disclosure when he stated how a threat from space, off-worlders would galvenize our different countries into one human force. That and his Star Wars defensive plan really spoke volumes about potential threat from off-worlders he felt while in office. At the present, we just have Obama and an election year coming up distracting everyone. Since Obama basically ran from the Norway Spiral event and is not in favor of disclosure, I doubt USA will be on board for his term of office. The newly elected president is another unlikely source as he will not want to put himself at risk and set the wrong impression for his term of office. I believe the UN would be an excellent place to do a sort of official but low profile disclosure. It has enough world recognition to be considered a legitimate source and the representatives are not necessarily presidents worried about their political future. Of course, it could also be the last act for the UN, sending it to irrelevant like the League of Nations went.

In theory the Bad Guys and the Earth power brokers have
lost their Galactic/inter-Galactic support. Their "contract"
to develop earth has expired. There is a transition time
that is starting now as the power brokers try to maneuver
with the new contract holders.

The new Off-World Planning Board has been meeting, with
updates from observers on the attitude of our population.
There will be more rumors of disclosure to "cry wolf" then
the real "Disclosure" will be given at the UN. As weak as
the UN is, it is representative of earths governing bodies.
;-) ;-) ;-)
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[D a n e]

Fuck Ashtar. He never tells the truth.

[Rum]

lmao it starts to get a little difficult to believe after so many false predictions but then that's if you actually believed it to start with.

[Psychic Child]

tmt,
wrap your cell phone in Reynolds wrap
so all of it is covered.
Then have a friend call you . . . .
;-)
be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger
note:
Why is it that when you hold on to any antenna
the reception improves?
beauty,
pc.

[Psychic Child]

Rum, I think that psychological contitioning
has little to do with what you thought before
the conditioning took place.
Believe or not in Aliens . . . .
You are still being conditioned
to expect a non event.
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[LucidDreams]

Ever had a "close-call-near-accident"? A second or two sooner at that point and you could have been a pancake? "That was lucky" . . you said Then you thought back to where you were delayed for that two seconds? And you thought wow, if I hadn't of . . . . I could have been killed. .

Too many times in my life to count. So many times in fact that the explanation that there's "someone up there looking out for me" is more plausible than believing I just "got lucky" a hundred times. Oh... I guess I should comment on the OP too: "First contact" happened a long, long time ago already.

[Psychic Child]

Too many times in my life to count. So many times in fact that the explanation that there's "someone up there looking out for me" is more plausible than believing I just "got lucky" a hundred times. Oh... I guess I should comment on the OP too: "First contact" happened a long, long time ago already.

But then again, considering the "saving" as an example of a psi-ability,
is more pauseable yet. . . . . at least to me . . . ;-)
The "Got Lucky" could be an instant predetermination
that your frequency-liquid mind and/or your Primal mind
sensed, and that your cellular body mind instantly acted upon.

Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

[Rum]

Rum, I think that psychological contitioning
has little to do with what you thought before
the conditioning took place.
Believe or not in Aliens . . . .
You are still being conditioned
to expect a non event.
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger

Seems a little pointless to condition someone for a non event when they didn't expect an event in the first place lol

The constant crap on the internet about this may well be planned to discredit any real info that's out there and if so it works as with the amount of false info how do you recognise the real information if there is any

I simply have a hard time believing that an advanced civilization would need to communicate as a channelled entity and even if they did then they are surely intelligent enough to realise that unless they can do so with more than one verified source then it is going to be met with distrust.

[rabana]

much of this info is coming from various sources, by which i mean the same groups or entities communicating by various means, to various groups and individuals, not only thru channeling. but it ain't the conventional elite-controlled media so if thats what you need, you won't find it there, at least for now. and you will be told by them to laugh it off.

[Psychic Child]

Rum,
I think that is the point. some time within this next year
there will be a disclosure. Perhaps the "cry wolf" will
happen enough to help people not to fear-panic but
look with interest.

I don't think that channeled beings are representative
of any government. Perhaps of a evangelizing religion,
but more likely a teacher type doing a Q and A.


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Most authentic chandlers are the Q and A type, letting the
listeners set the agenda. The preachy ones have their
own agenda. There are indications of trustworthiness that
would apply to any advice giver that should be followed
Just like on _IS_ and reading the postings.. . . . ;-)
Be in harmony,
be in beauty.
roger