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    Recently discovered indigo-skepticism, past lives, meditation, etc. help

    Hello lovely ones!

    As you can see, I'm new to this entire community but so very interested! But I have a few questions that I'm searching for answers to.
    • I've realized that meditation is very important, and everyone should do it. I've only tried it a few times, and they weren't exactly fulfilling. I realize I need to give it many more tries, but does anyone have any tips? I light incense, play soothing music, breathe...I just don't feel I'm getting anywhere.
    • Growing up, I was not taught to follow any specific religion, which I greatly appreciate of my parents. However, recently I've been seriously doubting the existence of any "all-powerful" being. It just doesn't seem realistic to me. Therefore I've also been questioning the beliefs I have/had in things like ghosts, angels, mediums/psychics, and the like. Reincarnation is another tricky subject I've never been too sure of. I guess what I'm asking is, how do I allow myself to open up? I'm a sort of factual person, and I like hardcore evidence, so maybe that's my issue, since I don't have any.
    • I have been seeing a lot about so many people being so sure about knowing their past lives. That's another thing that I'm skeptical about-I just don't understand how they are able to know without a hint of doubt. Is it something I need to experience to understand? If so, how?
    Peace and love! <3

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    Hi Julia welcome to IS

    There is a lot of information out there about meditation and i would say keep practising this as this is the key to connecting with your higher self, also do a search on lucid dreaming as this can be a fun way to start experiencing the astral plane.
    Your only purpose is to Know

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    Thank you, I've been very curious about lucid dreaming as well. I'll look more into it.

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    Julia,
    I have a different perspective than most.

    On meditation: Not everyone practices traditional meditation. I don't. and honestly, I don't endorse it. Everyone does things differently. For some, incense and candles are great - frankly, for me that's the setting for an intimate affair or a nice bath. There are people that practice walking meditation, gardening meditation, or any other kind of meditation besides sitting and being quiet. The whole point of meditation is to be able to CALM the mind. Sometimes this means being quiet and sometimes it means listening to heavy metal. You will find your own best practice for meditation... the one that works for you.

    On Factual Evidence: That's entirely up to you. I don't believe in an all-powerful being.. and yet.. I also don't not believe in one. I'm a scientist by education and somewhat by practice - the more I learn, the more I know that we don't know. The laws of physics (many of which are still theory) propose energy that we can't see but we theorize and experimentally believe exist. They "make" sense.. but we can't prove them at all. I can't prove to you that memories are stored in your brain - but yet we, as scientists, theorize that this is the case. my point is, even things that we accept scientifically as true, we don't know to be true. I'm not trying to convince you of anything - just reminding that even the scientists don't know.

    On past lives: I have inclinations about some of my past experiences, but I don't know. Most people will tell you that they know EQUIVOCALLY.. they don't... from my perspective, how do I put this delicately - I could give 2 shits. what is in the "past' is in the "past".. it doesn't matter except in how we got here.. attempt not to repeat the "past". Whether you were someone famous in a past life, whether you weren't - it doesn't matter. What only matters is - who you are RIGHT NOW.

    All experiences that you've head, you were meant to have. All experiences that you are meant to have - you WILL have.. don't worry about whether someone tells you that should or should not do something - that's THEIR opinion.. If I would make any suggestion to you, it's this (or to anybody else). Follow your heart. Follow your intuition. Whatever resonates with you is probably right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julia Alexandra View Post
    Hello lovely ones!

    As you can see, I'm new to this entire community but so very interested! But I have a few questions that I'm searching for answers to.
    • I've realized that meditation is very important, and everyone should do it. I've only tried it a few times, and they weren't exactly fulfilling. I realize I need to give it many more tries, but does anyone have any tips? I light incense, play soothing music, breathe...I just don't feel I'm getting anywhere.
    • Growing up, I was not taught to follow any specific religion, which I greatly appreciate of my parents. However, recently I've been seriously doubting the existence of any "all-powerful" being. It just doesn't seem realistic to me. Therefore I've also been questioning the beliefs I have/had in things like ghosts, angels, mediums/psychics, and the like. Reincarnation is another tricky subject I've never been too sure of. I guess what I'm asking is, how do I allow myself to open up? I'm a sort of factual person, and I like hardcore evidence, so maybe that's my issue, since I don't have any.
    • I have been seeing a lot about so many people being so sure about knowing their past lives. That's another thing that I'm skeptical about-I just don't understand how they are able to know without a hint of doubt. Is it something I need to experience to understand? If so, how?
    Peace and love! <3

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    Oh gosh, sentienne. What a wonderful response.

    You have a very good point about science-and maybe that's why so many religious people have trouble believing in evolution and such.
    And also a very good point on past lives. I suppose it really doesn't matter too much-I'm just curious ^-^

    Thank you for the input!

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    Why can't it be real?

    Hi Julia,
    I'll put my color responses within your text

    Quote Originally Posted by Julia Alexandra View Post
    Hello lovely ones!

    As you can see, I'm new to this entire community but so very interested! But I have a few questions that I'm searching for answers to.
    • I've realized that meditation is very important, and everyone should do it. I've only tried it a few times, and they weren't exactly fulfilling. I realize I need to give it many more tries, but does anyone have any tips? I light incense, play soothing music, breathe...I just don't feel I'm getting anywhere.
      It is important is that you clear your mind of thoughts,
      Julia, to detach from the conscious mind to allow the other 5 to follow your
      pictured, focused, intentions. The conscious mind is the judgmental
      mind and it function is to identify "knowns". As the psychic abilities
      not usually known to it . . . the "C-mind" makes up reasons for their
      not being real. Yet if an authority gives it a name that is accepted
      by general society it is accepted and is OK to use.

    • Growing up, I was not taught to follow any specific religion, which I greatly appreciate of my parents. However, recently I've been seriously doubting the existence of any "all-powerful" being. It just doesn't seem realistic to me. Therefore I've also been questioning the beliefs I have/had in things like ghosts, angels, mediums/psychics, and the like. Reincarnation is another tricky subject I've never been too sure of. I guess what I'm asking is, how do I allow myself to open up? I'm a sort of factual person, and I like hardcore evidence, so maybe that's my issue, since I don't have any.

      But the evidence is there, lots of little bits and
      pieces, Julia. Again the Conscious mind is making excuses trying to justify
      a new thing it experienced. The idea of "hardcore" evidence is the
      judgmental attitude of the "C-mind" to justify its denial of a thing or
      things it does not want to understand ie, What is a coincidence, an
      illusion, or being delusional or "just a day dream".
      People in _IS_ have positive psi-experiences all the time. We post
      about these experiences a lot, verifying our experiences and the
      variations we encounter.

    • I have been seeing a lot about so many people being so sure about knowing their past lives. That's another thing that I'm skeptical about-I just don't understand how they are able to know without a hint of doubt.
      When you experience something several times
      it can become part of your belief system, so yes, but you will need to
      recognize your experience as being a valid experience


      Is it something I need to experience to understand? If so, how?
    Peace and love! <3
    When you surf the threads, try not to judge "is or is not" keep
    an open mind that what is posted is that persons opinion, even
    the heavy negative troll stuff or the very positive "One God" stuff.

    Julia, if you find yourself judging, switch from "knowing" to "feeling".
    That will help you understand "Our" experiences.
    Be in harmony,
    be in beauty.
    roger
    note:
    Back in time, before Buddhism became a religion,
    It was a "Practice" similar to Yoga. There were
    three schools in N. India that taught the Psychic
    Abilities of telekinesis, telepathy, clairvoyance,
    remote viewing, levitation, and all the rest as
    proof of a spirit god within us all..
    One of their Mantra was:
    I believe . . .
    Therefor I can do . . .
    I do . . .
    Therefor I can believe . . .

    beauty,
    pc.
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    That which is below corresponds to that which is above . . .
    That which is above corresponds to that which is below . . .
    To accomplish the miracle of one thing.
    The Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegist, [Dennis W. Hauk translation]

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    Thank you, pc. I suppose that even though I really do try to be open-minded, I am still a bit hesitant-probably because society tries to push away these spiritual experiences as people being "weird" or "crazy" or whatnot.

    Could it be, maybe, an indigo characteristic? Like how we question "why" something must be done according to authority; maybe the need I feel to question "how" is similar? Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Child View Post
    Hi Julia,
    I'll put my color responses within your text


    When you surf the threads, try not to judge "is or is not" keep
    an open mind that what is posted is that persons opinion, even
    the heavy negative troll stuff or the very positive "One God" stuff.

    Julia, if you find yourself judging, switch from "knowing" to "feeling".
    That will help you understand "Our" experiences.
    Be in harmony,
    be in beauty.
    roger
    note:
    Back in time, before Buddhism became a religion,
    It was a "Practice" similar to Yoga. There were
    three schools in N. India that taught the Psychic
    Abilities of telekinesis, telepathy, clairvoyance,
    remote viewing, levitation, and all the rest as
    proof of a spirit god within us all..
    One of their Mantra was:
    I believe . . .
    Therefor I can do . . .
    I do . . .
    Therefor I can believe . . .

    beauty,
    pc.
    Vouch, I feel this to be correct.
    "The Art of Peace is to fulfill that which is lacking."-Morihei Ueshiba
    "Those who are possessed by nothing possess everything."-Morihei Ueshiba
    "Peace hath higher tests of manhood than battle ever knew."-John Greenleaf Whittier








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    Thanks julia,
    But really . . . .
    try the "feeling" mode,
    Things will be a bit clearer.
    be in harmony,
    be in beauty.
    roger

    That which is below corresponds to that which is above . . .
    That which is above corresponds to that which is below . . .
    To accomplish the miracle of one thing.
    The Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegist, [Dennis W. Hauk translation]

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    Welcome Julia

    I believe in evolution and creation...different terms describing how we are here in the now. (I also have faith...not religious...spiritual)


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    I understand your thoughts. From what I've read so far, Indigos have higher than normal IQ. If this is the case, then it would be in our natures to dig & find truth. Being aware of how many people might mislead us, we need the truth, as we don't want to believe lies or fantasies. Even though I was raised Baptist, for me I consider it a plus, because it caused me to think on my own & gave me an awareness that we are more than the sum of our parts. My personal proof came at age 9. My grandmother had just died, who was more my mother than my biological one was, & was truly grieved to where I could cry no more. After the viewing that night, being a bit creeped out at seeing 1st corpse, my parents let me sleep between them. Around 2am, I woke up feeling as if someone was watching me. I looked at the opposite end of the room & saw y grandmother standing & smiling in Mom's side of the closet, also saw Grandpop standing in Dad's side- just in their usual clothes, said nothing (deaf mutes in life) but only smiled. I was wondering if I was making it up, so woke Dad up & asked him to look at the closets. He did, then I asked him what he saw. He said," I see my mother in your mother's side & my father in my side, standing & smiling." Then I knew it wasn't my mind playing tricks on me & then asked him why they were here. He asked me to give him a minute to think...then said that they wanted me to know that they were both together again & happy. So then I went back to sleep. That was my first experience. A year later, Dad was reading the paper in bed after work, while he heard static electricity. Put the paper down, & saw his mother's face surrounded by it, smiling & coming to him. she kissed him on the cheek, he felt it, then disappeared, never to be seen again. Now I won't ask anyone to believe this, but it was true. Fully understand that if you never went thru it, would believe it was lies. However, it is my truth & have nothing to gain by making it up. Believe in science, which can extend out of this 3rd dimensional world, somehow, but also know that deep love goes beyond our earthly bodies. It was wonderful, yet a bit scary to see them, but if what happened was for a good reason, which I was raised to test the spirits by their fruit, it ws okay.
    Always believed in the biblical creation story, but with all the evidence I've seen from Ancient Aliens on H2, along with more research, I can see it as possible. Got hold of the Books of Enoch, read with an open mind, also the Lost Books of the Bible. I've found much synchronicity between all of them. Could never understand our loving Creator(s) not loving all of creation & damning it to hell, so these explanations help to open my eyes. We have physical'evidence in the world, like the pyramids & many other impossibly built places. So hope that maybe the issue is a bit clearer. It ws hard to evolve from beliefs held dear for life, but the desire for real truth opened my eyes, although all this seemed far out, got over the shock & am relieved to find that we are loved more than I could ever believe. I am not trying to force my experiences & beliefs on anyone, as we have Free Will, only thought I'd add myself to the train of thought.

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    Sorry for the typos, couldn't get the cursor to work to fix them. Maybe it's an Android thing.

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    We all have our stories 4electfew, of events that were,
    events that are not explainable to the judgement of our
    Conscious Mind. The facts don't fit into the straight line
    linear logic that we have been taught. It is an unknown.

    Yet we saw what we saw. Looking at the event from
    a different, non linear view, how does it feel? Does it
    feel natural, is there a harmony or discord around it.
    What are the bits and pieces of "knowns" about the
    event. What parts have a feeling of some how fitting.
    When did you encounter some of these bits and pieces
    before? Were they harmful then?
    Why not accept them as real now?

    Be in Harmony,
    be in beauty.
    roger

    That which is below corresponds to that which is above . . .
    That which is above corresponds to that which is below . . .
    To accomplish the miracle of one thing.
    The Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegist, [Dennis W. Hauk translation]

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    That is a different take on it, Roger. Yes, it feels right & in harmony. I lived with my parents & grandparents since I was born, till age 7- when my parents got their home. My grandmother Ethel was a very unusual warm & loving woman. Grandpop Fred used to scare me, because he was gruff & got frustrated a lot, being deaf. Both were deaf as toddlers from a Scarlet Fever epidemic. Dad was an only child, as myself. We loved both of them, but particularly me of her. She did all the dirty work, so to speak, while Mom took naps. I realized years later that not only cried to deeply because I couldn't see life without her in it, but knew I was pretty screwed. I went thru a box of tissues during the viewing at night. So them coming to comfort me made sense, Grandpop died the year before. Last fall I met someone with clairvoyance & asked them why they came to see Dad & me. I was told that,"They wanted me to know that they were okay." Then the man smiled, & said that Dad wasn't meant to see them really, they were meant for me to. He saw them incidentally. But because he did is why I knew it wasn't an hallucination, at the time. If 2 people see the same thing, then it's real. So no doubt, they are real & know also that love goes beyond the grave. I have tried all these years to be like Grandmom, her as my example. She loved everyone & remember her buying & mailing cards to friends that were other religions. I saw in her respect & love for others as they are & her face radiated the pureness of her heart & soul. Can I post a photo of her here? It's easily seen.

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