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    Earth is actually very special for it's unique structure which supports such a diverse group of life. We are a hub of activity in a forgotten backwater part of the universe that has thrived in spite of our circumstances. In the big picture, that of the universe, there is no other planet that is structured like Earth and is able to accommodate so much life in the variety and abundance of our planet. When you consider the number of planets and other celestial structures, we are exceedingly rare and it is understandable that we are the focus of so many off-worlders.

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    The truth is usually pretty simple and not all this convoluted space-ship ascension b.s. There are no ships, there is no GFOL, no 'real' Ashtar or fake Ashtar.....all the research I have done says fraud. Period.

    Are there other aliens out there? Yes.

    Are they really that concerned with Earth? No, because we're not that special!!! People believe this stuff because they like to think that us human beings are a special commodity. We're not. When there is 7 billion of anything, that is not rare or special.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tmt View Post
    Earth is actually very special for it's unique structure which supports such a diverse group of life. We are a hub of activity in a forgotten backwater part of the universe that has thrived in spite of our circumstances. In the big picture, that of the universe, there is no other planet that is structured like Earth and is able to accommodate so much life in the variety and abundance of our planet. When you consider the number of planets and other celestial structures, we are exceedingly rare and it is understandable that we are the focus of so many off-worlders.
    See, because of my own experience in the sauce, I don't believe the same...there are other planets out there, with just as a diverse, eclectic community of beings just like this place. And just like I mentioned before, we are NOT the focus of all these 'off' worlders, the ones that are there and are aware of us have no desire to have contact with us because they view us as infantile and violent (which we are). But again...this is my belief as you have yours. I just base mine on my experience.
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    But the whole GFL thing just capitalizes on people's fantasies and fears, and lures people in with the 'I'm a walk-in starperson from the 1,567,987th galaxy in the Frozone Nebula and I haz psychic powerzzzz' crap. I participated on a site that used to claim they were in contact with the GFL and were ordained by them....It was very cultish and scary to boot.
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    I have done some further research and found people who are deliberately involved in misleading people as well as other spiritualists who are being targeted and given false information by this group so that they and the people who follow them can be used. Two people whom I have found who are part of the group consciously involved in working for this fake group are Richard Presser and Yshtar Zsatara, she runs Starseeds.net. There are amny more prominent people around the world who are doing the same as these two are so it might be a good idea to stay away from them both. I mentioned these tao as they have been mentioned on this site before.. As some think this is some kind of conspracy theory, I can say it is not, just the truth coming out about those who can no longer hide behind their costumes, tryin to deceive everyone. The woman who did this channel, may not be well known but she is one of those genuine spiritualists working towards bringing the truth forward so that we can all benefit from it.
    Love is the basis for all communication. To love one another you must try to understand one another, and to understand you have to be able to communicate. Whether that communication is done in words or in silent action matters not, as long as it is done in Love, your heart is open and the Love flows freely. You have to be very loving and very tolerant towards your fellowman (and women).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheira View Post
    I have done some further research and found people who are deliberately involved in misleading people as well as other spiritualists who are being targeted and given false information by this group so that they and the people who follow them can be used. Two people whom I have found who are part of the group consciously involved in working for this fake group are Richard Presser and Yshtar Zsatara, she runs Starseeds.net. There are amny more prominent people around the world who are doing the same as these two are so it might be a good idea to stay away from them both. I mentioned these tao as they have been mentioned on this site before.. As some think this is some kind of conspracy theory, I can say it is not, just the truth coming out about those who can no longer hide behind their costumes, tryin to deceive everyone. The woman who did this channel, may not be well known but she is one of those genuine spiritualists working towards bringing the truth forward so that we can all benefit from it.
    Do you think that starseeds.net is deliberately trying to lure people to their site to misinform them?
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    Which planets?

    Most off worlders are interested in gaining leverage of some sort. Raising our vibration allows them to raise theirs as well, since we are all linked wiithin the universe. I agree, they do find us violent and childish as a whole but most of them claim to have genetically engineered our evolution or to have intervened in the past ages as well so their interference could have caused a lot of the issues we deal with here.

    Quote Originally Posted by LunarLotus View Post
    See, because of my own experience in the sauce, I don't believe the same...there are other planets out there, with just as a diverse, eclectic community of beings just like this place. And just like I mentioned before, we are NOT the focus of all these 'off' worlders, the ones that are there and are aware of us have no desire to have contact with us because they view us as infantile and violent (which we are). But again...this is my belief as you have yours. I just base mine on my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmt View Post
    Earth is actually very special for it's unique structure which supports such a diverse group of life. We are a hub of activity in a forgotten backwater part of the universe that has thrived in spite of our circumstances. In the big picture, that of the universe, there is no other planet that is structured like Earth and is able to accommodate so much life in the variety and abundance of our planet. When you consider the number of planets and other celestial structures, we are exceedingly rare and it is understandable that we are the focus of so many off-worlders.
    tmt, I agree totally.

    We certainly are not a Utopia, but as part
    of our extreme diversity in our humanoid
    development of social structure, there are
    Utopian societies that do exist. . [you name it we've got it]

    It is this variety, all on one planet,
    that is of Galactic and Intergalactic interest.

    Then tie in the diversity of social attitudes, again [you name it we've got it]

    Earth has been a treasure to the Galactic Academic Communities.
    Ya, I suspect we are sophisticated human lab rats in the sense that
    we have been and are under constant observation.

    To top that off there is much Galactic interest to see how this diversity
    is going to react to our mental "Expansion" that is scheduled to happen
    within the next year or two.

    The development of more mental diversity [that is us Types of indgo, folks]
    is an interesting development that [hopefully] will establish itself as a norm
    with the rise of Conscious Awareness. It will continue to be and is most
    interesting to watch.

    The Off World Group that I am in contact with, as a consultant, is in the process
    of assuming their contract to enable this Social, economic, cultural, environmental
    diversity continue its development with no? interference. Total destruction is a no, no. ;-)

    Ya, Ya An Off World Corporation has the contract to act as our protector.
    You know the old saying: So below, So above?
    It is true,
    and of course it is on a much larger scale . . . . :-)

    I find that very amusing. When I attend the board meetings of the
    Off World's Planning Commission . . . I have to keep a straight face,
    and a tight lid on my thought patterns [everyone is telepathic, me too]
    So everyone is strongly shielded, me too. But the similarities between
    that Board and the Earth Corporation Boards that I have sat in on
    is a real hoot!!!
    I could easily laugh out loud. ;-) ;-) ;-)
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    Yes they are.

    I have always known this

    GFL is a trap.

    And its design was primarily focused on trapping, and deceiving people like ourselves. Starseeds, indigos, lightworkers- whatever crappy label you want to attribute to us. They pull us in with things that resonate, you are different, that you come spiritually from somewhere else. These things are not fantasies......but they turn it into fantasies. Many of us have had clear memories, sometimes even experiences with off-worlders for real. Others different experiences.

    The whole GFL and Ashtar thing turned into people trying to look all hippieish, making youtube videos of themselves daily and channeling some random nonsense about ascension love and light with only maybe 5% valuable knoweldge, or non-regurgitated. SOME of it does have accuracy, some of it is ok.

    It has two very harming effects:

    Traps people into fantasies about phenomenon that does have some base in reality, but has the effect of completely disconnecting from it. It is sugarcoated, fluff designed to stroke the ego, and disempower people from taking action

    Conspiracy theory market is also similar, in its over-obsession with satan the end of the world lucifer and the illuminati.

    All those things have SOME base in reality, but they are turned into a horrible side-show of ignorance and imbalance.

    Yet some of these things DO have truth, and alot of us get suckered into different things when we first WAKE UP. We go through phases, and many get caught in the ego "oh loookie me I'm special! I look like I'm pleadian!" This has an effect of people being deceived by the illusion, to then disregard the phenomenon altogether.

    In otherwords it is a gatekeeper. Hall Monitor. Makes sure certain people don't pass certain levels of knowledge and awakening. Keeps them trapped in a limbo of self-entitlement, ego, and well quite honestly- blinded by the light.

    I have no doubt some of that shit actually comes from government operated satellites. While some of it is just astral fluff picked up by others. And some may actually be entities just feeding us nonsense for their own agenda. ANd yes- there are always people who just make the shit up. Everything the say about ascending with little work, et's gonna save us, and cabal being destroyed is simply not true. In fact GFL is something the Cabal are VERY proud of .

    It makes the few things with some bits of truth.....sound ridiculous. SOME pleadian channeling for example, has some truth (such as Barbara Macinacks stuff). But I can tell you that most beings who are here and trying to influence human behavior have agendas. Especially ones that claim they are intervening.

    ---

    What you said about guidance, and change having to come from within is absolutely right.
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    Just as an aside I had an account at starseeds.net, and copy and pasted this thread's OP there, just to see what would happen....

    The result?

    I no longer exist on their website. The math is pretty easy to do on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmt View Post
    Which planets?

    Most off worlders are interested in gaining leverage of some sort. Raising our vibration allows them to raise theirs as well, since we are all linked wiithin the universe. I agree, they do find us violent and childish as a whole but most of them claim to have genetically engineered our evolution or to have intervened in the past ages as well so their interference could have caused a lot of the issues we deal with here.
    I've been told Andromeda is one such planet.....and there are others that do not have names as of yet. But I'm going on the communications I've had with entities right here on earth. And a few others that have tripped across this quadrant of the universe.

    Something else they told me that I found interesting is that most languages on other planets have similarities to some of ours spoken here, which I found interesting, but that is neither here or there, LOL.
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    Andromeda is a galaxy, not a planet. If you were given Andromeda from one of your sources here on Earth, you should let them know.

    Quote Originally Posted by LunarLotus View Post
    I've been told Andromeda is one such planet.....and there are others that do not have names as of yet. But I'm going on the communications I've had with entities right here on earth. And a few others that have tripped across this quadrant of the universe.

    Something else they told me that I found interesting is that most languages on other planets have similarities to some of ours spoken here, which I found interesting, but that is neither here or there, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmt View Post
    Andromeda is a galaxy, not a planet. If you were given Andromeda from one of your sources here on Earth, you should let them know.
    I'm aware it's a galaxy, but the entity I spoke with was very specific and called it by that name. I even asked him to clarify himself. But like I said, many of the planets that I have heard them speak of we do not have names for yet. Or if we have discovered them we have named them with alpha-numerics, not names. I can't memorize them all, it's hard to be dyslexic.
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    He also told me that there were people on Epsilon Eridani, but that they were wiped out by some kind of cataclysmic event...the whole planet is glassed over, like a nuclear explosion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmentiHall View Post
    Yes they are.

    I have always known this

    GFL is a trap.

    And its design was primarily focused on trapping, and deceiving people like ourselves. Starseeds, indigos, lightworkers- whatever crappy label you want to attribute to us. They pull us in with things that resonate, you are different, that you come spiritually from somewhere else. These things are not fantasies......but they turn it into fantasies. Many of us have had clear memories, sometimes even experiences with off-worlders for real. Others different experiences.

    The whole GFL and Ashtar thing turned into people trying to look all hippieish, making youtube videos of themselves daily and channeling some random nonsense about ascension love and light with only maybe 5% valuable knoweldge, or non-regurgitated. SOME of it does have accuracy, some of it is ok.

    It has two very harming effects:

    Traps people into fantasies about phenomenon that does have some base in reality, but has the effect of completely disconnecting from it. It is sugarcoated, fluff designed to stroke the ego, and disempower people from taking action

    Conspiracy theory market is also similar, in its over-obsession with satan the end of the world lucifer and the illuminati.

    All those things have SOME base in reality, but they are turned into a horrible side-show of ignorance and imbalance.

    Yet some of these things DO have truth, and alot of us get suckered into different things when we first WAKE UP. We go through phases, and many get caught in the ego "oh loookie me I'm special! I look like I'm pleadian!" This has an effect of people being deceived by the illusion, to then disregard the phenomenon altogether.

    In otherwords it is a gatekeeper. Hall Monitor. Makes sure certain people don't pass certain levels of knowledge and awakening. Keeps them trapped in a limbo of self-entitlement, ego, and well quite honestly- blinded by the light.

    I have no doubt some of that shit actually comes from government operated satellites. While some of it is just astral fluff picked up by others. And some may actually be entities just feeding us nonsense for their own agenda. ANd yes- there are always people who just make the shit up. Everything the say about ascending with little work, et's gonna save us, and cabal being destroyed is simply not true. In fact GFL is something the Cabal are VERY proud of .

    It makes the few things with some bits of truth.....sound ridiculous. SOME pleadian channeling for example, has some truth (such as Barbara Macinacks stuff). But I can tell you that most beings who are here and trying to influence human behavior have agendas. Especially ones that claim they are intervening.

    ---

    What you said about guidance, and change having to come from within is absolutely right.

    Ty amenti!! I shared on another thread the irony I was noticing btw the sleepers of the world and those on this side that seemed to get lulled back to sleep with the deceptions...

    yes there are deceptive entities, beings, whatevers out there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Child View Post
    I suspect we are sophisticated human lab rats in the sense that we have been and are under constant observation.
    There are clues to this abound. Also that these "rats" eventually outwitted/tricked their creators. The NIMH experiments are interesting. They've been going on (in various forms) for a very long time, and continue today. We really are doing it with rats now. The proverbial "rats" back in the day though were humanoids. There was an animated movie called "The Secret of NIMH", that I believe is chop full of symbolic meaning on this issue. Most just see it as a cute cartoon. But that's always how it is when you hide things in plain sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarLotus View Post
    Do you think that starseeds.net is deliberately trying to lure people to their site to misinform them?
    I just stated that they are. Besides what they are doing at Starseds.net is being talked about elsewhere on this site. Many other groups I have not named are doing the very same thing with the same agenda, luring people with false information and false hopes, making them feel welcome or part of something, mixing 10 true information with 90% false information and then unwittingly enlisting them into a cult based on lies and subjugation and most of the time before they realise what they are really doing (the victims) it is too late. People have a right to know about things like this going on and to keep themselves safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarLotus View Post
    Just as an aside I had an account at starseeds.net, and copy and pasted this thread's OP there, just to see what would happen....

    The result?

    I no longer exist on their website. The math is pretty easy to do on that one.
    Its what they do over there. Personally I've never been a member but for years I've watched as they've ousted out anyone who stands up to them, literally over 1000 ppl, either too dark that they could not hope to keep under their influence for their cause or genuine spiritualists whom they cannot turn and keep subjugated. Starseeds.net is nothing more than a self obsessed cult run by Yshtar Xzatara. I am not being negative here by saying it, its just plain fact and also becoming truth as the days go on. Its been proven over and over again that its a bad place for anyone.

    I think we should petition people for freedom, get them to leave the places that aren't doing them any good, of course it is their choice, but it would be better for them in the long run.
    Last edited by Atheira; 08-16-2012 at 02:44 AM.
    Love is the basis for all communication. To love one another you must try to understand one another, and to understand you have to be able to communicate. Whether that communication is done in words or in silent action matters not, as long as it is done in Love, your heart is open and the Love flows freely. You have to be very loving and very tolerant towards your fellowman (and women).

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