The United States Is A God Loving God Believing Judeo-Christian Country & Nation...!!

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[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"]The United States Is A God Loving God Believing Judeo-Christian Country & Nation...!![/font]

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[font="Palatino Linotype"]I am against throwing God out of the Classroom and the Public Schools I am against Gay-Lesbian Homosexual Marriages becuse its against the Bible and the Commandments I believe there should be a Man and Women form of traditional kind of Marriage I am against Illegal Immigration of Illegal Aliens I am for preserving the National Anthem and our great Red, White and Blue American Flag. I believe that Children should grow up in good loving Jewish and Christian homes and households and be tought to love and acknowledge the Devine Suprime Creator "God" and Jesus Christ as well as the story of King David and the Jewish Torah and the Christian Bible. I believe in good solid morals and believe in a good form of Smallar Government I am against Bigger Government and I believe I should live a life filled with Honesty, Respect and Faith and that we should live a life that should serve the Devine Creator "God" Jesus Christ of the Universe.

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Judeo-Christian Roots of America's Founding Ideals and Documents

[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Principle: Reliance on the Providence of God[/font]

Judeo-Christian Roots

"For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee. O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires. And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones. And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children. In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake. Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. (Isaiah 54:10 - 17)

American Founding Ideal:

"We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states; .. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." (Declaration of Independence. See also John Eidsmoe, Christianity and the Constitution, Baker Book House, Grand Rapids, MI, 1987, pp. 355-377)

[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Principle: Law of God forms basis of good human laws[/font]

Judeo-Christian Roots

"The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. (Psalms 19:7 - 8)

American Founding Ideal:

"Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be." John Adams, February 22, 1756 (Federer, William J., America's God and Country Encyclopedia Of Quotations , FAME Publishing, Coppell, Texas, 1994, p.5)

"These laws laid down by God are the eternal immutable laws of good and evil .... This law of nature dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this...

"The doctrines thus delivered we call the revealed or divine law, and they are to be found only in the holy scriptures ... [and] are found upon comparison to be really part of the original law of nature. Upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered to contradict these. William Blackstone (Federer, p.52)

[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Principle: Religion and Morality form basis of Liberty[/font]

Judeo-Christian Roots

"Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof." (Leviticus 25:10)

"Ye have not hearkened unto me, in proclaiming liberty, every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbor: behold, I proclaim a liberty for you, saith the Lord." (Jeremiah 34:17)

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14)

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (John 8:32)

American Founding Ideal:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams (Federer, p. 10)

"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible" George Washington (Federer, p.660)

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.... And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion ... Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail to the exclusion of religious principle." George Washington's Farewell Address.[/font]
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if God was so great, why didn't he write the bible himself? what lazy good for nothing CEO, always getting others to do his dirty work.
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I want God to leave the classrooms, I don't need anybody brainwashing my children!
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" wrote:I want God to leave the classrooms, I don't need anybody brainwashing my children!


[font="Palatino Linotype"]Then you prefer your own children of whom have souls and a spirit to grow up and live a Godless life filled with Sin, Homosexuality and Pagen Worship to Worshiping False Gods and Dieties and live like Sodom & Gomorrah and those from Pagen Babylon and to live a Pagen Life filled with things that would damn them and their souls and spirits.[/font]
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" wrote:[font="Palatino Linotype"]Then you prefer your own children of whom have souls and a spirit to grow up and live a Godless life filled with Sin, Homosexuality and Pagen Worship to Worshiping False Gods and Dieties and live like Sodom & Gomorrah and those from Pagen Babylon and to live a Pagen Life filled with things that would damn them and their souls and spirits.[/font]


This is exactly why I Don't want anybody brainwashing my kids....quite self-explanatory, thanks;).
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Brandon...I think that you need to look within yourself.. I can,t find a passage in the bible that says 'thou shalt judge'
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" wrote:This is exactly why I Don't want anybody brainwashing my kids....quite self-explanatory, thanks;).


[font="Palatino Linotype"]Your children any children in general should be tought this becuse it will shape them to become better people in their lives when they grow up to become more Honest, Respectable, God Loving Adults in their lives and actually give them a since of meaning if you have a problem with that then Just Keep Your Children Out of Those Schools. You Dont Have To Be Apart of Those Schools Just Leave Those Schools For Families That Want To Raise Their Own Children As God Loving People.[/font]
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How about you make private schools to feed your kids this BS and leave religion out of public schools; that way, being part of this madness becomes a choice.
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Brandon -- what do you think about a mandatory space travel class? You could write the introductory to spacetravel for 1st graders book?

On another more personal note, I highly question the intent behind your belief in the right to bear arms.

1)Mainly, it's because I think for you, personally, it is about security-- as opposed to literally wielding the ability to quickly/efficiently end someone's life. This is why you prefer the confines of a spiritual society forum to spew your super right-wing conservative views. You know you will be understood and not attacked. You value security which is made evident in your alleged love affair with guns.

2)I pose the hypothesis that you are too much of a pussy to shoot someone much less point a loaded gun at another human being. You won't even try to insult me. You are the kind of kid that I would let put a gun to my temple and I wouldn't flinch because you are just a big fucking pussy who believes in spaceships-- I let you get away with that shit but keep posting this stupid ass bullshit and i'll be forced to insult your intelligence and your personality.
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Brandon, if the believing in God would create caring people, shepherds, as it was intended, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But this is not the case; instead, it creates self-indulged narcissists who think they are better than everybody else, who behave outrageously more often than enough, and who believe that they'll be forgiven their "sins" upon saying a little prayer.
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" wrote:Brandon, if the believing in God would create caring people, shepherds, as it was intended, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But this is not the case; instead, it creates self-indulged narcissists who think they are better than everybody else, who behave outrageously more often than enough, and who believe that they'll be forgiven their "sins" upon saying a little prayer.


[font="Palatino Linotype"]All of our Founding Fathers of the United States were all Christians and Jews they all fallowed the Judeo-Christian tradition and faith and when the United States of America was founded and created it was founded and created upon Judeo-Christian princables and values and we as Americans and those living in the United States need to go back to God and Jesus Christ. People need to get it right with God and the Devine Suprime Creator and to comback to their faiths of to which they had left and abandon and to comback to their families and start doing good things in and around as well as for the community around insted of being selfish.[/font]
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" wrote:Brandon...I think that you need to look within yourself.. I can,t find a passage in the bible that says 'thou shalt judge'


[font="Palatino Linotype"]You know your signature well even Melchizedek is even mention in the Judeo-Christian Torah and Bible it is all apart of what this country and nation was created for and what it is all about and that it all go's back to God the Devine Superime Creator of the Universe and everything within it all. We need to get it right with God and Jesus Christ and Society today is on a rapid decline and it is going through a rapid degradation and Withering away of our country and nation as well as all of our Rights, Liberties and Freedoms of the United States of America. People like "Theodore Roosevelt", "Woodrow Wilson", "Van Jones" "NAACP" and "George Soros" The Fucking Left Wing Communist Marxist Socialist Democrats "SOB's" who destroyd and are continuing the destroy our great nation and great country called The United States of America.[/font]
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" wrote:The United States Is A God Loving God Believing Judeo-Christian Country & Nation...!!


It was my understanding that a Mr George Washington didn't want religion to have anything to do with state...
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" wrote:It was my understanding that a Mr George Washington didn't want religion to have anything to do with state...


[font="Palatino Linotype"]George Washington wanted Freedom OF Religion NOT Freedom FROM Religion theres a vary strong difference there you have to be vary carefull on how you interpret that and how you understand the Constitutional Philosophy and the founding princables and values of the United States of America.........!!!!!!![/font]
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" wrote:[font="Palatino Linotype"]George Washington wanted Freedom OF Religion NOT Freedom FROM Religion theres a vary strong difference there you have to be vary carefull on how you interpret that and how you understand the Constitutional Philosophy and the founding princables and values of the United States of America.........!!!!!!![/font]


Naw I know what I mean. He said something about how the church had no place in the running of a country, I'll try and find the quote for you if you like Brandon :)
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You know your signature well even Melchizedek is even mention in the Judeo-Christian Torah and Bible

Show me where
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Brandon hon - you are welcome to believe anything you want, but please please PLEASE don't insist that everyone else believe in it too.

This country may have been founded by white male Christians (I'm roughly lumping the deists into this category) - but it is no longer a nation of white male Christians. Every single one of those non-white, non-male, non-Christian citizens is just that - a citizen - with the rights of any citizen.

A nation that is made up of a conglomeration of races (which we are), sexes (I certainly hope we are) and religions (we most definitely are) has an obligation to respect and support the rights of all of its citizens; life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness, however they see fit to pursue that happiness, as long as it does not infringe on the rights of other citizens to pursue their own rights.
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I already posted this video before, but this is a perfect thread to post it again.
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If I was stranded on a desert island with you, the constitution of the united states, a rope, and a cell phone-- I would tie you to a tree, wipe my ass with the constitution, then call for help.
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i like idea ! the only question is what to do for ppl who don't understand the bible or don't want to follow christian princiipple, and who will judge if this person is following the bible or not =) on what basis will those judgement will conveyed, and how the punishement will be decided, or how will ppl get 'converted' if they are not christian or jew

we already saw this kind of thing in europe and middle east, you know iran have a similiar constitution now lol :D
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