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    Free will, and why we do not have it.


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    A lot of people in our society believe that we as humans have free will, and that we make every decision in our lives. Even though that is a beautiful idea, the reality isn't there.

    Let me be the one to break it down, but no, you do not have a freedom of choice, and YES you are just a slave.
    I am going to keep this as simple as possible.

    Why are we slaves?
    Well...first of all, look at your life, and the ones around you.
    Are you really free? Just to answer that question, lets go back in time to the times of slavery in Egypt, Greece, etc. Slaves were common people (us), who lived their lives, got "taken care" of by their masters (government), because they were are really valuable asset. Today, we are not AS valuable...too many of us. A life lost, is not a big deal anymore. Back then it was. Besides Spartacus there were no major slave uprisings. Why? Because just like today, it is the most comfortable thing to be, a slave. You get taken care of, and you get your pleasures fulfilled...drugs, food, entertainment, fake sense of security etc. The master is still telling you to, go to work, pay bills, you can do this but not that, you have your slave court (house), you are given JUST enough freedom to fake your mind into feeling free, but in reality, we are all just same exact slaves as before. That's why word nigger is so more accepted in society, because there is no more label on a certain race, it's the whole world and human kind.

    So why do we not up rise? That is a question i have been asking myself for the longest time, and the answer is always the same, "Too comfortable, someone else can do it for me."

    As i have stated, we do not have a freedom of choice, when you think that you are making your OWN decision, you are not. You are making one based on the information that has been programmed into your head. It's been programmed so well, that you also have a security system, that ensures you do not think/act on your own will. Most people dont know, but the same people who control the prison systems control the school systems. Accident? I don't think so...just more ways to ensure that no one steps out of the line.
    As we make decisions we base them all on one concept, ego/selfishness.
    We tend to choose the easiest, most beneficial side for US. That is where the human race fails. Happiness and evolution can only be achieved from sharing, and giving. Not from receiving all the time.

    We are born as freedom loving creatures, that is why we have to be trained like animals into what masters want us to be like. Like a puppy we are trained by our parents, who are programmed to train us...shit rolls down the hill.

    As a kid you have no limitations, you know what you like and dont, you know what you find atractive and not, you know what is happy and what is sad. Now, we just decide those things by what has been told to us.

    Only when man, can stop it's computer from making calculations, and picking the most egotistical option, can he ever elevate himself to a higher self.
    Only when we can truly live for the good and benefit of others, can we be enlightened.

    We do not need religions. We do not need dogmas. We do not need martyrs. We do not need someone to point to the truth.

    Everything that we need to know, is already inside of our selves from birth, if anything it all gets covered up by society, because a free man, is a dangerous man...why do you think great minds of our times have been all taken out? Too dangerous, they wanted to, and could have messed up the system.

    Good news is, that more and more people are starting to ask questions, more people are starting to THINK on their OWN. More people start to see the system that is in control today. And on other had the masters know that their grip is slipping. That's why more then ever we get things like natural disasters, global warming, wars, terrorism etc, shoved down our throats. If they loose control, human will return to it's original purpose, love & unity. And those two concepts are just not profitable at all, and do not benefit the idea of an EGO.

    The play is on, the seats are filled, only thing you need to do is pay attention to the stage, and draw your own conclusions.


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    Excellent Post Reason, thanks for sharing!

    IMHO the first step to true freedom is to free your mind.

    "Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to "die before you die" — and find that there is no death."
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    Greatness indeed.

    While I agree that the concept of freedom in our society is fairly askew, and that we are slaves to our culture and that the information is contained within us all at birth.. I have to disagree with your beginning statement of not having free will. There is a difference between freedom and free will. we can live our lives in bondage, but we always have the free will to do something about it.- wether it works or not. Free will is something that short of actual mind control one can never take away from another. It may dwindle through years of conditioning and abuse.. but it can always return. And through our free will our freedom can be taken back.
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    The funny thing is that I walk the middle path.
    I will never allow myself to fully be consumed with darkness or light.
    I also believe in the whole concept of master/slave.
    It's displayed everywhere, it's our genetic make up. In a relationship you can't have 2 masters, or 2 slaves. In first case, you will endup with chaos, in second you will endup with an ice age.
    If anyone here knows about the M&S relationships, you can understand. Some of us were "bred" to be slave, others (few), to be masters.
    I am a master. Not a slave. Yet I am sure a lot of people will state they are masters and not slaves, yet they can not prove it when it gets to the point of playing the role.

    Hope I am not too confusing.
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    From Kahlil Gibran's The Prophet:

    And an orator said, "Speak to us of Freedom."
    And he answered:
    At the city gate and by your fireside I have seen you prostrate yourself and worship your own freedom,
    Even as slaves humble themselves before a tyrant and praise him though he slays them.
    Ay, in the grove of the temple and in the shadow of the citadel I have seen the freest among you wear their freedom as a yoke and a handcuff.
    And my heart bled within me; for you can only be free when even the desire of seeking freedom becomes a harness to you, and when you cease to speak of freedom as a goal and a fulfillment.

    You shall be free indeed when your days are not without a care nor your nights without a want and a grief,
    But rather when these things girdle your life and yet you rise above them naked and unbound.

    And how shall you rise beyond your days and nights unless you break the chains which you at the dawn of your understanding have fastened around your noon hour?
    In truth that which you call freedom is the strongest of these chains, though its links glitter in the sun and dazzle the eyes.

    And what is it but fragments of your own self you would discard that you may become free?
    If it is an unjust law you would abolish, that law was written with your own hand upon your own forehead.
    You cannot erase it by burning your law books nor by washing the foreheads of your judges, though you pour the sea upon them.
    And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.
    For how can a tyrant rule the free and the proud, but for a tyranny in their own freedom and a shame in their won pride?

    And if it is a care you would cast off, that care has been chosen by you rather than imposed upon you.
    And if it is a fear you would dispel, the seat of that fear is in your heart and not in the hand of the feared.
    Verily all things move within your being in constant half embrace, the desired and the dreaded, the repugnant and the cherished, the pursued and that which you would escape.

    These things move within you as lights and shadows in pairs that cling.
    And when the shadow fades and is no more, the light that lingers becomes a shadow to another light.
    And thus your freedom when it loses its fetters becomes itself the fetter of a greater freedom.
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