pagans.. and lsd

[huggy911]

i have for years been taking lsd and magic mushrooms, i feel that by having these experiences i have opened my mind.

i find they are a gate way drug, they contain a power that i just cannot describe.

sometimes the experience is evil to me. i seen things that would be scary to others. for along time due to my RAGE i was unsure if i was here for good or bad. i have love in my heart and want to further myself.

i just wanted your honest opinion weather i should continue to seek the truth though these physedelic drugs?

and your thoughts on pagans in general..

any reply would be greatly accpepted

(sorry for any spelling mistakes)

[Icicles]

Hmm to psychedelic drugs I say no, this is because I have heard too many bad things about them.
Also the two worst things for the spirit are supposed to be psychedelic drugs and loud noise, these two are both supposed to alter you astral body, or something like that.

My opinion on Pagans are fab, they are unique and as long as they carry love and respect in their hearts then theyre on the right track. Pagans rock!!

[Calibas]

Now that you know what it feels like to have an open mind you should be able to tell what's closing it. Get rid of those thoughts and you'll have an open mind, no drugs required.

We can't tell you what you should do. Have you tried asking the love in your heart?

[Rue]

i have for years been taking lsd and magic mushrooms, i feel that by having these experiences i have opened my mind.

i find they are a gate way drug, they contain a power that i just cannot describe.

sometimes the experience is evil to me. i seen things that would be scary to others. for along time due to my RAGE i was unsure if i was here for good or bad. i have love in my heart and want to further myself.

i just wanted your honest opinion weather i should continue to seek the truth though these physedelic drugs?

and your thoughts on pagans in general..

any reply would be greatly accpepted

(sorry for any spelling mistakes)

have you ever learned from any of your experiences with the substances?
pagans, are like hindu's and christians, and catholics and all other religions.
all organized.
ritual.

[indigoglow4u]

you ask what I think? oh oh...

for me in my journey there came a time when I wanted to leave those things behind....(shrooms and hallucinagenics)...
my choice was based on the fact that my imagination was way to wild to explore under those influences.

It still is ..oh naturel....

I began the search for the real me... absent of outside stimuli to create enhanced and maybe even influenced ideas. were they even really mine.?
i would wonder.
At times it would scare me ..the things I could think of..

but you know what? that was me and my journey...

you and your path are for you...

I like facing the world head on...

The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly....

Now, I don't want/need to be 'expanded'...
the love of the simple realities of life is enough.

I've loved learning to look out rather then always looking in.

There is quite a beautiful world out there to be enjoyed...au naturel !

Sorry I babble but you asked.

I know it doesn't make much sense but that's another of my realities...
and I like it

take care...

[Achilles, Ines.]

mmmhhh... let me see... well i'm thinking too, i like ur thread..... see...

well, i have 2 thoughts

one, i know this drugs can be like opening a door or something...

but... well u have mentioned sometimes the experience is evil....

mmmhhh... thinkin', thinkin'....

and sometimes is not, right?....

well i think what happens with mooshrooms and this kind of doors... is like ... u really 'fly' and go to other dimensions or........ u open the door for other dimensions to come in....

and there...u can find both..... light and or dark with this experiences...

Now.... another thought. Mine, obviously u do what u want...but... I think u don't need .... this special key to open ur doors.

U no?.. i was very curious and attracted to drugs for years when i was younger.. in the 80's... specially.... but I never did them... thanks God and thanks me... etc., etc. But then...... at some moment in the 2000's... i had one very good advice...cos i was still curious: If u want to try them, be very consciouss on what ur doing and be with some good friend or someone who is gonna take care of u. U see, in my country there are even special guides to do some rituals.. But well..i was not to far... One day.. ah! other part of the advice was that.... 'don't take them where u are depressed'. Take them when ur very happy and calm and be very conscious on what ur doing. Conscious like putting attention ...being in the present moment... things like that. Relaxed and the happiest, the better. So... one day i found my day to try marihuana. Just that one i have tried.... and i did it that day with one of my best friends in Mexico and... i enjoyed it so much. We laughed like kids..... we were talking about cartoons too i remember.. Was great....

And I have used it once in a while after that, but very once in a while...

and the thing is I see I don't need it to expand myself ....this way. Is nice, is cool but.... really I don't need it... cos i know how to get 'there' without it.

I know the effects of this kind of drugs can be achieved by meditation.... And lsd, mooshrooms, marihuana are short cuts for that.

U see with meditation u get the good effects and u don't get the secondary effects.

To me, drugs... have a positive aspect but they always have a negative one too. And I'm always aware of that one.

These are my thought about this.

About 'pagans'.. the only thing that come to my mind right now is that.... they belive in Nature. That's the original meaning of it. So, they used to believe in the god sun, the god moon, things like that. At least I'm refering to ancient pagans... I donno.... just... this came to my mind.

And now i'm just thinkin'.... one thing a catholic person told me once....

when u don't know if believe in religion or u don't like it or something... just look to the Nature. Nature has answers.

And lately and thank to a friend, i've been going more to Nature (i'm very used to the city, but i used to love Nature!! i love it....) the thing is..... just going to the park or to the lake or to the roads......outside the city.... I found it so ...great..... So healthy..... so, for to me, what for to use something that might be good, but also kinda dangerous.... Whar for if we can 'expand' ourselves through effort and actually through pleasure....other pleasures...

Through the pleasure that life offers to u in so many ways.......and not in risky ones..........

i dunno... my thoughts..........

if u can laugh hardly without marijane..... if u can see colors without lsd..... aaaaaahhhhhhhh i can!! so then why to use it? why to hurt urself, cos.... see, my best friend the one who i smoked with, my first time... I also have seen on him.... effects that I just think there are not necesary...

ok, bye for now.

oh, just.... i'm not saying "find answers in maryjane or in mooshrooms, they are natural".... No. Cos there are also poisonned plants and they are very natural too.

It's just very interesting u put this 2 topics in one, pagans and drugs....

And just remember the light and the dark of this drugs. And see what u want. And know that u can have ur expansion and u can have pleasure and U can be so great and happy and strong and healthy without lsd, without them.... Really, u can.

"It's all about balance"

Now i go, bye. hope this is good for u.

[Tear_of_the_WoLF]

what a nice topic....

lsd....id recommend mushrooms...at least there is a spirit to "protect" you..spirit of the plant..if ur gonna take lsd u better have it in good with the Goddess and elements....for real. that is no joke u leave urself WIDE open....i know...im quite the ingestor...or have been known

Pagans...
I once "called" myself pagan...yet i am more..i am ancient...i follow no ritual or set of rules...yet the Goddess is like my best friend...especially the ascended masters..so i like pagans...i am "one" myself...no one ive met on this board has quite the intamite compassion i have for Her....not saying they dont love and respect ....but im obviously different....hybrid? yes that u could say...anyway, thoughts on pagans are cool...as long as ur not doin it just to be cool....like some of my old friends when i was 13 LOL!!!!!!!!

[huggy911]

many thanks to all you that have replied..

i am learning more day by day..

and i thank you all for your comments!

[raztaz12]

I haven't taken any psychedelic's because of the potential dangers of it. Personal decision to not put anything into my body that could make me see things that aren't there. I agree that psychedelic's do open the mind to something more, but I don't believe that drugs are the proper way to see things clearly.
It is poison and so hallucinations are just that hallucinations and can not have any credit in them. I'd rather open my mind through cleansing and meditation. May take longer but I know that when I get to a full open point it will be more controllable then a trip.
The reason why I hate being drunk is I hate to be out of control.

Good luck!

[Tear_of_the_WoLF]

well id have to disagree....those energies are real ...those hallucinations...are real....it is other dimensions...we use a very small portion of our brain...and our senses...my experiences are way to personal to say it was just a hallucination....it encompasses you....anyway im really passionate aboout this im not about to get all fired up....but that realm u reach is very real...very.

[Achilles, Ines.]

I agree with you Kaitlin, it's real. It's all real. Dimensions.

And I agree with Raztaz too , cos there are more than one way to get 'there'.

Actually.... maybe we all are agreeing... and just saying what we see or think about this?.... (i donno, just woke up,...)

About the brain, I know I use more than the average, like most of the Indigos.

And that happen without drugs.

Actually, I tried marijane in 2000 something... maybe just 2000... but in 1995 (and always but this year was special) I had some experiences that people could say I was using drugs, cos all the things I was able to see, etc etc..... But I was so happy and proud for the fact that I was not using them.....

some thought I was crazy.... (and hey i'm still a little bit, eh!)... but I knew it was all about using more brain. Average people couldn't understand me cos.. they hadn't use those parts of the brain.....

one day one friend said to me, "hey ur not crazy, ur indigo"

and I go now cos i'm still sleepy, bye and hugs...

One big one to you huggy911 (ur name is pretty and funny.. like an emergency hug?....) okey sorry bye...

[Amur]

All drugs are good and a part of the Great Plan It's just the way they are used.... An axe is still an axe and some people use it for murdering instead of timbering or alike lol... They probably need a 100 paged manual to go with it telling them how it should be used with big disclaimers that We are not in charge

Was going to write something like "Take LSD, challenge God, Kill Him, take his place, make a new universe, spend there and have a great Cosmic Orgasm of such Itensity that it shakes the whole multiverse making the whole friggin thing ascend and have a great time, and then come back and live as a human being"

Everyone has their own unique psychology and also unique brain chemistry which makes every drug behave a bit differently for everyone, which means that some caution needs to be taken when new to these things, but they can probably offer alot of eye-opening experiences and what not and a direct experience into how it is to be in a 'higher state of consciousness'. I really recommend psychedelics & nature as they seem to be very closely interwined with each other, and everything in nature is GOOOOOD or God or atleast God's creation, as opposed to the friggin poison-holes called cities filled with all kinds of abnoxious memes and what not shaite. Well of course that also depends on the reality tunnel you're actually living in hehe.

Hmm to psychedelic drugs I say no, this is because I have heard too many bad things about them.
Also the two worst things for the spirit are supposed to be psychedelic drugs and loud noise, these two are both supposed to alter you astral body, or something like that.

If you believe they are harmful, then they probably will be also lol, can't' beat the power of the human mind, but it still doesn't mean that it would actually have any decent physical foundation for it. Especially since most don't understand a twat about what an astral body is anyway and how those energies work. Most of those things are based upon faulty observations caused by faulty circumstances based on faulty axioms and there's a lot of shit to dig through before one can reach a true observation about how the matter really goes.