Proof Bush lied to start war, impeachment begins, media completely silent

[Calibas]

This isn't some shady report from an alleged ex-CIA agent. The is hard evidence from inside the administration. Phase II of the investigation into the Iraq war, done by the US government, has found that Bush lied about intelligence. You'd think the democrats would immediately call for impeachment right? Nope, they're actually protecting him. Yeah, that's right, the democrats who supposedly oppose Bush and the Iraq war are protecting him from impeachment. Let me repeat that again, the democratic leadership told it's members not to impeach Bush even though there's hard evidence he lied to start a war.

Luckily, Kucinich is going against the party leadership and pushing for impeachment anyway.

If this isn't shocking enough, all the major media outlets are completely silent about this. Yes, the "watchdogs of democracy" are mute about phase II of the report and the impeachment. You'd think both would be front page news right? Nope, the majority of Americans still have no idea this is going on. Indigo's, spread the word, this could bring our incredibly corrupt government and our incredibly corrupt media to it's knees. Post it on blogs, other message boards, tell your friends and family, now there's overwhelming hard evidence that both groups are working together against the American people and against democracy.

I have another thread documenting the whole thing with links to all the articles here: http://indigosociety.com/actual-news-t7058.html

Will

[goddess_in_embryo]

I've been on that one for a while now, but thanks anyhow. I'll keep being on it.

Here, have good times following links.
Ignorance Isn't Bliss

[xoxos]

hey calibas -

in 1899, jules verne published "20,000 leagues under the sea."

it's not about a submarine, or a giant squid (what most people remember)

captain nemo ("omen..") is using his superfast submarine to speed around the world and destroy arms trading vessels.. people starting wars to make money..

1899

and, like "the who" said about viet nam, erm, "we won't get fooled again"


so how are you going to get people to *understand* how they feed this???

luv ya sir

[Calibas]

Hello! Biggest news of the whole year, so far. Why the hell are people ignoring this? I don't mean to get emotional but WHAT THE FUCK? Are people really this ignorant?

This is something straight out of 1984, and that's no exaggeration. The media and both parties of government have teamed up against the general populace and are willfully spreading ignorance.

I don't know what to say.

Will

[goddess_in_embryo]

We aren't ignoring it, Calibas, we have been working on all of this for many years here. We don't know why other people are ignoring it.

Did you go to the links we sent you? Oh, and if you're wondering why we keep using we... there's a topic on that too.

Do you have any idea on what more can be done, we are quite the political activists... we have been doing what you have suggested for about... hm, well, since Bush the First started all of this nonsense. So, since before we were allowed to vote.

[xoxos]

i remembered another bit of history that's nice to point out at times like this...

this one is well recorded.

eisenhauer's last speech in the office of president explicitly warns that the biggest danger to america is the military industrial complex.

[xoxos]

.."just for fun" (forgive..) here's the 'communist cookery' sketch from rutland weekend television (eric idle's first post-python series).

like most absurdism, there's some not so subtle symbolism, if you use the term "kitchen" to apply to any "creative arena.."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtF1ZNqSX3w

"leave the hogwash in the wallow, shape your world intentfully NOW!"

[xoxos]

more 'fun,' call it a letter from another generation.

pro-test by skinny puppy (who are going on 50 now..)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADkQV...eature=related

[Calibas]

I'd like to steer this back on track.

The fact that the Republicans, Democrats and the media are working together to keep the American people ignorant has become too painfully obvious to ignore. This is perhaps the most blatant example of US government corruption seen in the past 100 years. This makes Nixon look like a saint. At least his lies didn't lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

I see this going two separate ways, either the American citizens continue to ignore this and the government/media continues to use them like pawns in chess, or people speak out against this, stop watching the propaganda some call news, and start voting for sincere politicians.

This could lead to some of the greatest political reform the world has even seen.

Will

[Lightholder]

Guys please go to the Zeitgheist website and get the movie. It is far better than loose change in my opinion. This may clear up some questions for you.

[xoxos]

I'd like to steer this back on track.

fwiw when 911 was happening, the first thing i thought was something like "what are those fake-ass government bastards up to now."


dude. ww2 was WAY bigger than iraq. and iraq is peanuts to what they're pulling in the congo too.

or is ww2 "legitimate" in your mind, because you don't know all the dirty little secrets????


ima tell you young man jules verne, 20,000 leagues... check it..

[adonis777]

The human realm is a place of suffering.

Politics is all about deceit.

do the math.

[Calibas]

fwiw when 911 was happening, the first thing i thought was something like "what are those fake-ass government bastards up to now."


dude. ww2 was WAY bigger than iraq. and iraq is peanuts to what they're pulling in the congo too.

or is ww2 "legitimate" in your mind, because you don't know all the dirty little secrets????


ima tell you young man jules verne, 20,000 leagues... check it..

You assume a lot about me.

Of course 9/11 was the CIA. Not one, not two, but three buildings fell down that were built to specifically withstand that type of thing. And they didn't fall down like planes hit them, they fell down like a professional demolitions team too 'em down. Then they cleaned up the mess as quick as they could (just like JFK) so people couldn't take pictures like this:


I don't know all the details on WW2 but I know it's a lot more than the history books say. I know about the occult side of it, the Aryan race from outer space, a new messiah, the search for various religious artifacts, the Thule Society.

I just feel it's more productive to concentrate on what's happening right now. This time the truth is so plain to see that people are going to have to choose to ignore this. Plus the major investigations that come with impeachment may shine light on some of those past events.

Will

[xoxos]

This time the truth is so plain to see that people are going to have to choose to ignore this.

you may be right.

or could it be that bush is so overtly fraudulent because that's how tight their game is, so to speak.




gangsta, who is going to take them out? the american people? rotfl. the media? lolzers. conscientious moneyed forces of industry? ahahahaha. other countries? the u.n.?

i don't want you to accept my truth. it would be cool if i could impart the idea that, if for some reason, you don't get far with "waking people up to the concealed truth" that you spend your energies creatively, forming an alternative future.

here's a simple example of what i am attempting to communicate.. you don't get far slapping people in the face saying "wake up driving a car is bad!"

instead, try popularising an alternative that denecessitates cars. it's easier to move FORWARD into more desirable scenarios than try and make everyone go backward.

another example.. if people eating meat upsets you, make outstanding vegetarian dishes so people don't have to think of themselves critically, they move forward to more appealing options.

people are scared of the alternative.. if you can't trust the gov't.. well.. how far would they get without a government???

people don't instantly understand your sense of outrage. people are fairly comfortable to the idea of the government lying.

in fact, with hollywood, people are damn comfortable with ANY idea.

the president's head dropping off and growing tentacles and consuming manhattan? sigh, saw it last week, five or six times.

people DREAM. they are PROBABLY NOT going to critically analyse new information. it's all endless television.

you can tell them the truth, but people don't integrate new information in the same manner.



i doubt i'll convince you, do your thing. i'm suggesting this because in my experience, it's more practical. i've spent the last 20 years changing the world, and i've accomplished things. if i'd been trying to convince the world of the kennedy assassination for the last 20 years, do you think i would have accomplished much????

well, maybe you'll be the one.

success, WILL.

[xoxos]

and i'm sorry for basically being uninvited in your threads and posting links to songs and videos.. 'entertainment..'

here's a track from the acid house era by psychic tv. oc to be heard on acid (ritualised introspection if you like)

http://www.breathcube.com/kittensparkles-stfrancise.mp3

there are a lot of options to consider

[Calibas]

I agree with what you say xoxos, that it's better to show people light than simply point out they're in darkness.

To me the solution is so simple it's comical. It's already a core piece of our government, even though it's being chipped away at. Democracy is the solution, all we have to do is vote for representatives that actually represent us. The way it currently is, there's no separation between big business and government. This could be solved in just a few years if people would elect honest politicians. Such enormous proof of the media's control and manipulation, that we now have, may be enough to convince people to stop paying attention to the propaganda they see on TV. It's just a matter of getting people informed and now, unlike earlier times, we have the Internet.

[xoxos]

To me the solution is so simple it's comical.

they say 'no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the general public..'


i won't, can't explain all of my experience and perception to you..

my father was a multinational intelligence agent.. the way i see the world, i see that people, society, have "handles.." things used to manipulate culture.

so for me, it's not so much about getting people to be reasonable.

i'm not saying joe-blow is an irreconcileable dumbass, it's more like joeblow gets played. he goes to do one thing, you place the cue, snap your fingers and he completely forgets about it to do something else... spin doctors..

(btw i have a ~welsh accent.. living in tucson i'm ~familiar with gangsta speak..)

edit.. i'm generally used to people on forums disrespecting those who use ghetto language.

[Protonexus]

they say 'no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the general public..'


i won't, can't explain all of my experience and perception to you..

my father was a multinational intelligence agent.. the way i see the world, i see that people, society, have "handles.." things used to manipulate culture.

so for me, it's not so much about getting people to be reasonable.

i'm not saying joe-blow is an irreconcileable dumbass, it's more like joeblow gets played. he goes to do one thing, you place the cue, snap your fingers and he completely forgets about it to do something else... spin doctors..

(btw i have a ~welsh accent.. living in tucson i'm ~familiar with gangsta speak..)

edit.. i'm generally used to people on forums disrespecting those who use ghetto language.

The handles or links as I like to call them are woven into the fabric of societies by those who wish to maintain control. There are two types of links, some are found in DNA as basic human (and prehuman) desire and emotional attachment, etc, those that are learned are the most dangerous because they can be attached to anything. If a society teaches you to build links, it's everything you see and know most of the time. The links allow others to influence your thoughts and beliefs based upon your desire for their resources (knowledge or material), their insight..., etc. I've seen in most people the links system seems to be second nature. Everyone seems to be desperate to get something that they think someone else has. When a belief you have becomes largely hinged on what another tells you is true or this or that, it loses it's meaning as well as becomes a means of control. It is a variable, so to speak, a seemingly (illusionary) constant aspect of human life that can be manipulated slightly by those that influence society.

Somehow those who would control you must make you believe that you need to be controlled - for the links to form. The obvious best way is to do it in a way that you never question it - instead accept it as part of your life. All the more effective if everyone else around you is doing it. It becomes easy to insert ideas via oh say cable news. It works in such a way that you are led to think they are credible, perhaps the news they cover is somewhat credible. However it is often what they do not cover that makes them all seem ridiculously shallow and opinionated.

[xoxos]

oh say cable news.

it can be hard to do this, because we are so convinced that all tv content is separate.. the kelloggs people create this, the michelin people that, et c..


try watching tv for semantic abstracts..

instead of words, actions.. watch for sequencing of lumens. spectral regioning.

at least a good idea for people to begin to actively participate in the act of perception.. by deciding what abstraction to monitor