Humans de-evolving

[TheRavenMother]

De-human-evolution

I know humans strive to evolve and transcend etc into better creatures; but I personally think, that humans are going through de-evolution… I study psychology and humanities, which is sciences based on society, cultures and the way people think, and I have to say that humanity as a whole seem to be under developing in these past few decades as opposed to their ancestors.
For example; our ancestors were very active they would walk miles each day to get things done, gather resources etc, and build their own homes and make things such as their own pottery, baskets and so forth. The worked the land, these days it is machines doing all the hard work, and humans are quite literally using their bodies to such little activities people are started to need to eat less than ever before because their current diets are not small enough for what little they do each day, and the use of cars are slowly making even younger people unable to walk as far as their grandparents used to when they were the same age, 50, 60yrs ago.
It isn’t just that which is something that is making noticeable changes in humanity today, it is other things such as… children are developing physically faster than their ancestors, but mentally and emotionally slower. Children gain their independence much later than say when a child was born in the 1950s, although parents would say that when times changed so did society and that it has become dangerous to allow children the same freedoms they had when they were their age, it doesn’t solve the fact that children are not showing signs of adult behavior until they are in their mid 20’s and even then it is debatable.
In ancient times, say for example, ancient Rome, you as a female was expected to find a suitable husband as soon as you reached 13, because this was when the average girls started puberty, and by natural law you was an adult and you was able to reproduce. By 16 boys were expected to be head of their own households and even go to war with their fathers!
Around 1500 the normal age for parental independence rose to 15 – 16yrs old for girls and 18 for boys.
Then around the Victorian era, 16yrs old to search for a husband until 22, and if you did not find a husband by the age of 25 you was considered rather odd and men were expected to run their own households by 21.
These days, it is 21 overall in most countries with talk that it might even have to become higher… so what is happening??? Are we de-evolving to the point we are completely dependant on our parents until we’re 30???

What are your views on human evolution?

[Soulsearcher29]

We talked about this in psychology class too. Maybe part of the reason is too, the fact that their life span was shorter, that is why they settled down younger. Another thing could be that we dont get enough exercise and eat right, alot of what our body is using is junk...McDonalds, donuts, soda, chips, ect. that is like poison to our brain, so we might not be thinking as clearly as we should be either. There's alot of factors playing in here, environmental factors, the cost of living is up, jobs are very competitive, economy isnt good, parents are leaving the house to work and kids are raising themself. Back then also, there was more community living, like aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents and both parents all lived together or very close on the same land. So children were raised around many adults and other children and had lots of supervision and parenting. There's just alot of things that are playing into this.

[Light.]

Personally I believe the whole idea of having children is for war. That is really pretty much were all the children will be going in the future. Think about it the jails are over flowing teens dont have jobs to go to adults do have to many jobs to go to and colleges jacked up there prices so the poor cant afford it without giving their left hand. Then the housing market fell everything seem to be going sooooo sooo bad rolf but if you stand back and look there is no problem if you sign that form. I was in the military I have my personal opinions about this but I will let every one decide for themselves

[Kryptics]

Hmm, the idea of de-evolution doesn't sit well with me because there isn't such a thing; evolution is scientifically random mutations which allow a person to survive in their environment better. Modern humans live an entierly different world than we did years ago, and running fast doesn't get you up the societal/situational food chain. So true, we aren't as strong as we were before but now our technology and the products of our minds is stronger than ever.

Basically our world has changed to much for traditional means of living to be adequate. We've 'evolved' to become lazy and follow the status quo which isn't exactly as free as the way we were living before.

[Shankara]

In ancient times, say for example, ancient Rome, you as a female was expected to find a suitable husband as soon as you reached 13, because this was when the average girls started puberty, and by natural law you was an adult and you was able to reproduce. By 16 boys were expected to be head of their own households and even go to war with their fathers!
Around 1500 the normal age for parental independence rose to 15 – 16yrs old for girls and 18 for boys.
Then around the Victorian era, 16yrs old to search for a husband until 22, and if you did not find a husband by the age of 25 you was considered rather odd and men were expected to run their own households by 21.
These days, it is 21 overall in most countries with talk that it might even have to become higher… so what is happening??? Are we de-evolving to the point we are completely dependant on our parents until we’re 30???

What are your views on human evolution?

From what I remember from biology class, Some species mature fully in a few weeks, some mammals take a few years, but humans take much longer. Human brains are more complex, and require more time for development. Maybe the lengthening of the time required for maturity is actually a sign of our evolution, in that our brains are becoming more complex?

[Light.]

My question is why are people still producing when the world has a ton of contraceptives and there is a question of, is there too many people on earth "of course I dont believe there are to many people on earth I really would like to know the person that could give statistics to this and serious statistics." But any how people are not watching what is going on in this world look around you food is "drying up" lol and water is bad there is war every were and education is bad and there is no money why on earth are people still having kids.
De evolving in some ways is right for they are.

[TheRavenMother]

Humans are the only animal on earth who rely on money for survival... so your basically saying that any other animal who doesnt have money shouldnt be producing babies either... you have to understand a human life is an artificial life! And that all other creatures on earth are living REAL life!

[TheRavenMother]

From what I remember from biology class, Some species mature fully in a few weeks, some mammals take a few years, but humans take much longer. Human brains are more complex, and require more time for development. Maybe the lengthening of the time required for maturity is actually a sign of our evolution, in that our brains are becoming more complex

?

I very much doubt it because personally, before machinary was making things for us we had to think like a machine to produce things, whilst we manually worked. But these days we are not even doing that, so our problem solving skills are also dying off. Because if you rely on machinary too much, your problem solving and creativity brain cells will die, as well as becomming physically weaker - I see in the future that humans will no longer become a threat on the world to all other creatures, because they will become sloth like.

humans are less evolved regarding independance and emotional strength than our animal counterparts.

For example, any other animal gains independance from their parents much earlier in adolescense than us - the only matching animal with the same time as us is Chimpanzees, with a similar lifespan to us - elephants too, have a long adolescense.

What I find doubly amazing is that in Roman times you were expected to have mothered at least one or two children by the time you reached 18, and boys were soldiers by 16 as training came much younger.
Why is it different today, are people truly saying that our times here in the West, are much more dangerous than the times of the Romans??? Because personally, I see no different whatsoever apart from the fact that guns exist these days, and transportation is faster - but socially everything is the same... even diversity was around when the Romans was around, even if it did mean that the countries were occupied by armed forces.
So, why are people using the excuses that a dangerous society is preventing our children being adults younger???
I say this because, human rights have gone a long way so technically we're safer than before and have more rights to a voice than ever before...

It just seems all, rather odd!

[Soulsearcher29]

Raven, maybe its the process of getting back to basics. Maybe we are in that cycle that we are learning from. Things usually get bad before they get better, so maybe its another learning experience. If people do get "dumbed" they will have to rely on their basic instinct or survival needs to live and it would be like starting over again from the beginning. Everything has a way of working out in the end....everything has a way of running in cycles

[WingedDefender]

Tina its good that you brought up the romans,
Now lets talk about thier downfall, first of all they were at the end, controlled by the catholic church, whose own cardinals couldnt have marriages but they supposedly could have nurses (coughs* Coughs*) who were as we say very active with thier err cardinals...

The corruption ran all the way up to the pope....

They lived in the end, too much of the good life, and well had foriegners do all thier work-

Sound familar?

CJ-

P.s. - - - I am quite aware, that i am perfect in every way raven,
hey you may be stupidizing- but dont get me involved... hehe

[TheRavenMother]

you only get involved when you read and reply to my posts CJ, now whose umm what's that word that isn't even in the dictionary??? stupidizing?

[Magic Ingram]

you only get involved when you read and reply to my posts CJ, now whose umm what's that word that isn't even in the dictionary??? stupidizing?

Hahahaha

Yes the de-evolution of humans is possibly a natural process of thinning out the herd since there is nothing above us on the food chain really. Though I find a lot of it is due to the education systems and religion. The popularity of television has also played a part in this. Though I've noticed that shows are getting less entertaining so people have drawn away from it. But you got millions of zombies who have to watch reality shows. I never understood those shows really. Okay now I am rambling *sigh*

But there are hundreds of things to blame for this process and yet it may just be a natural thing

[Light.]

Humans are the only animal on earth who rely on money for survival... so your basically saying that any other animal who doesnt have money shouldnt be producing babies either... you have to understand a human life is an artificial life! And that all other creatures on earth are living REAL life!

What are you talking about you have it all wrong. We are the only creatures not in balance every thing else act according to some basic laws. Humans create children and then the children are mislead by tv and other peer pressure while a person is at work or so.
Its kind of like when baby aligators are eggs and the mother is away. Then the salamander lizard comes up to steal the eggs and eat them.
Slow down with your anger your missing my point. Jeez you have anger what is going on with you I can feel your anger from here.

[{{d*@*b}}]

I think it is pretty common to see that we are evolving or de-evolving, but personaly I think we are done with de-evolution and we are re-evolving. I believe in recent times the tide has changed after thousands of years of de-evolution. I feel we needed to de-evolve so we could re-evolve. I see de-evolution as hibernation and re-evolution as re awakening. Reproduction has a purpose that is not necessarily what we have thought it was. I belive reproduction has less to do with the physical and has more to do with what is going on in the spirit world and which realms the spirits have to be in at a certain time in order for them to make the appropriate steps.

[Amur]

Personally I believe the whole idea of having children is for war. That is really pretty much were all the children will be going in the future. Think about it the jails are over flowing teens dont have jobs to go to adults do have to many jobs to go to and colleges jacked up there prices so the poor cant afford it without giving their left hand. Then the housing market fell everything seem to be going sooooo sooo bad rolf but if you stand back and look there is no problem if you sign that form. I was in the military I have my personal opinions about this but I will let every one decide for themselves

Well to be honest, if I look at the media that USA has released over the past 50 years it feels like they are very much preparing for war all the time, manipulating youths into believing that war is good and so forth, which I find is quite sad. To be honest, I think the people already there feel too bad already to give a damn about any war except perhaps personal healing and making peace and things for themselves.

[Protonexus]

The artificial world humans have created for themselves to live in supports much more life. By all rights many huge sections of the gene pool would not exist without this world. If we had to return to living by nature's bounty most people alive today would not make it.

Humans took hold of the evolutionary reigns, many have evolved to function best only within human ideas and places. We're still evolving, we will never stop. It's just that there are so many genetic strings out there that go no where.

[defuzz]

it migth be that
the artificial mindset is de-evlutionizing mankind by genetic manipulation through foods and media/schools electro magnetic spells of disinfo.
teknotronic man in grasps of synthetic mainstream will be led into governed quantum arrays when the dimensional flop exposes his ignorance towards himself and he owns fear that his faked psyche cannot process.

its only natural we got a new species going.

esoteric agenda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubDxHbBhHEU

[Anomalia Zelta]

I think it is pretty common to see that we are evolving or de-evolving, but personaly I think we are done with de-evolution and we are re-evolving. I believe in recent times the tide has changed after thousands of years of de-evolution. I feel we needed to de-evolve so we could re-evolve. I see de-evolution as hibernation and re-evolution as re awakening. Reproduction has a purpose that is not necessarily what we have thought it was. I belive reproduction has less to do with the physical and has more to do with what is going on in the spirit world and which realms the spirits have to be in at a certain time in order for them to make the appropriate steps.

Well said. bien dit

[greygoose]

Animal> Human> Spirit = Instinct>Ego>Spirit= Evolution

[Quiet Knight]

De-human-evolution

I know humans strive to evolve and transcend etc into better creatures; but I personally think, that humans are going through de-evolution… I study psychology and humanities, which is sciences based on society, cultures and the way people think, and I have to say that humanity as a whole seem to be under developing in these past few decades as opposed to their ancestors.
For example; our ancestors were very active they would walk miles each day to get things done, gather resources etc, and build their own homes and make things such as their own pottery, baskets and so forth. The worked the land, these days it is machines doing all the hard work, and humans are quite literally using their bodies to such little activities people are started to need to eat less than ever before because their current diets are not small enough for what little they do each day, and the use of cars are slowly making even younger people unable to walk as far as their grandparents used to when they were the same age, 50, 60yrs ago.
It isn't’t just that which is something that is making noticeable changes in humanity today, it is other things such as… children are developing physically faster than their ancestors, but mentally and emotionally slower. Children gain their independence much later than say when a child was born in the 1950s, although parents would say that when times changed so did society and that it has become dangerous to allow children the same freedoms they had when they were their age, it doesn't’t solve the fact that children are not showing signs of adult behavior until they are in their mid 20’s and even then it is debatable.
In ancient times, say for example, ancient Rome, you as a female was expected to find a suitable husband as soon as you reached 13, because this was when the average girls started puberty, and by natural law you was an adult and you was able to reproduce. By 16 boys were expected to be head of their own households and even go to war with their fathers!
Around 1500 the normal age for parental independence rose to 15 – 16yrs old for girls and 18 for boys.
Then around the Victorian era, 16yrs old to search for a husband until 22, and if you did not find a husband by the age of 25 you was considered rather odd and men were expected to run their own households by 21.
These days, it is 21 overall in most countries with talk that it might even have to become higher… so what is happening??? Are we de-evolving to the point we are completely dependant on our parents until we’re 30???

What are your views on human evolution?

I look at it in a multi layered way. When we think and act right, and when we eat right, we progress, when we don't as individual and as society, we slide back.

You are what you eat, and you are what you actively feed into your mind. As your family line continues to think, act and eat right, with each generation there is better health, stronger bodies and better minds and etc.

Actually we are in a degenerated state now, do any of us live to be nearly a 1,000 years old, as Adam and most did before the flood. Man has generated his genetic inheritance by the way he lives, and it can be reversed in the same way in time.

Weaknesses and strengths and talents are passed along to our progenitors.