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Natural or Unnatural?
If the universe is the source of all things as we know it, including physical, astral, spirtual, and mental... can anything be concidered "unnatural?"
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words are symbols, semantics, life and meaning are, or can be, complex
using a rational analysis of the word's meaning, i think it can be applied to anything.
it can be valid in a localised sense.. eg. if you were understanding it in context to differentiate from 'artificial,' or 'unusual.'
i think language should be considered somewhat relative.. evolving. i think we should accept that language should evolve by necessity. the way people communicate today and the things they communicate are significantly different than they were 30 years ago.
for one thing, i think we type a lot more. i don't use capitals.. too much to type. i'm okay with that..
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For some strange reason people call their creations unnatural and what they don't understand supernatural.
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The physical many like to denigrate by using the word illusion as a discription. The physical is not an illusion but more a vocabulary for the experiences of soul and spirit. The soul I think of as the spirit in a more physical sense.Soul is the conciousness as experienced by a body with physical senses. You and your body and all the physical things you experience is a format of comunication between your spirit as soul in the physical. In the spiritual existance you are attached to the physical but more objectively. Spirit is beyond the universe. The spirit can be attached to multiple souls, universes, planetary bodies and galaxies, galactic families, etc. The physical and spiritual are opposite sides of a spectrum and together are one entity as well. There are steps of existance for an infinity. This is the distance between you and the real "god" (as we call it in certain circles who speak a certain language).
As far as natural and unnatural, they are also a paradox. We can experience unnatural based upon limits of perception, but really there is no difference. Everything is natural because we are a part of nature, we are natural. So whatever we create is not out of thin air it is out of nature. The same way darkness contains light. Unnatural still contains nature and vice versa. For instance the clearest corralation to me is the creation of the computer and it's relation to the mind. Computers are the manifested reflection of the mind. Or that is the overall destiny for computers. They are like a masterpeice of interactive art. Plus computers have opened up a whole new way to organize thoughts and the mind in general. This hit the eccelerator on human mental evolution because now we have an external mind to comunicate with and as we interact it evolves and effects us and as we evolve we effect it. People like to say the mind is a technology and from a certain perspective that is true but technology is also a mind. So there for if the mind is natural then the reflection would be as well because it is made up of us and we are made up of it.
Wow what a round about way to explain something
but thats what I think right now
I never thought of the soul in quite this way before and I would like to think on it... but this thought is a new concept. I was wondering if you would mind an elaboration on this idea?Originally Posted by {{d*@*b}}
how about since nature seeks an equilibrium - things that are out of balance are unnatural. Unnatural then is a subjective experience of an otherwise natural system.
Clothing might be natural, depending on what it's made of.
I'm not really into synthetic fibers unless I need them for something,
But hermit crabs kind of "wear" their homes.
"I dunno, she might be on a mission trip"
"A what? A MUSHROOM TRIP?"
" LOL NO... XD.. That's not what I said."
time reveals things to us, and helps us understand things better. people 2000 years ago would have thought the idea of light being emitted from a tiny object to be sourcery and impossible, or "unnatural". everything is natural, the words are only describing what peoples reactions to the occurrences are. aliens and all that are considered unnatural, because to common knowledge they are myths, tommorow-onward that could all change.
Reminds me of the definition of natural food. The US FDA has real definition issues here. MSG is derived from plants so it isn't always an "artificial" flavor. But if you add beet powder to a drink mix to make it look more pink is that artificial color?
I think it remains more of a subjective quality. Could you even play animal, mineral, vegetable with it? Would it be a helpful clue - natural versus unnatural? Like this
(answer=wooden rocking chair)
Animal, mineral or vegetable?
Vegetable.
Is it bigger than a bread box?
Yes.
Could you find it in a house?
Yes.
Is it natural or unnatural?
??????
that would depend on your definition of natural and unnatural.
If you condsider "natural" to be anything that occurs naturally without outside interference or manipulation (outside being by beings within the natural universe who purposefully manipulate natural objects into objects/materials that would not have existed as such in the natural state: ie: nylon, polyester, plastics, polyurthene), then yes, there are things that can be considered "unnatural."
If, however, you are defining "natural" as any object which exists (in any way shape or form) within the physical universe, then no, there is no such thing as "unnatural."
"Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to "die before you die" — and find that there is no death."
^there are other ways to define them though, it doesnt have to be only from a universal stand point. such as in the event that a ghost appears, a person would consider it unnatural due to it being an uncommon event. meaning there definition of unatural=uncommon.
I agree with xxxoooswords are symbols, semantics, life and meaning are, or can be, complex
using a rational analysis of the word's meaning, i think it can be applied to anything.
it can be valid in a localised sense.. eg. if you were understanding it in context to differentiate from 'artificial,' or 'unusual.'
i think language should be considered somewhat relative.. evolving. i think we should accept that language should evolve by necessity. the way people communicate today and the things they communicate are significantly different than they were 30 years ago.
for one thing, i think we type a lot more. i don't use capitals.. too much to type. i'm okay with that..
there.. i made this about my agenda
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