Are DarkWorkers Evil?

[MiamiSound]

Heres an interesting read relating to the recent surge of DarkWorkers on IS



First, from a spiritual perspective, darkworking and lightworking are both paths to greater awareness, greater motivation, and greater power. Darkworkers and lightworkers are similar in many ways, their main difference being how they direct their focus and energy. Darkworkers direct the flow of energy inward, while lightworkers direct it outward. A darkworker consumes; a lightworker creates. Both are in alignment with forces of nature: push and pull, action and reaction.

However, from a physical, earthbound perspective, darkworkers can indeed have a destructive effect. They build their power by draining it from others. To a darkworker this form of destruction is a good and natural act. Harming another person is morally no different than eating a meal.

The Darkworker Mindset

Here’s another way of looking at it. What do you think about eating animal flesh? Does your conscience nag at you while your teeth rip into the flesh? Do you concern yourself with the animal that had to suffer and die for your gustatory pleasure?

To some people eating animals is viewed as a completely immoral act. It cannot be justified except perhaps when one’s own survival is truly threatened. To rob an animal of its life in order give yourself some momentary pleasure is an act of pure, unadulterated evil.

To other people eating animals is viewed as something completely natural. Animals are a lower species, so their needs are of no real consequence. Man is smarter and can easily turn animals into food, so therefore he might as well enjoy it. If a few billion animals suffer every year as a result, who cares? The point isn’t to torture the animals — just to gain pleasure by feasting on their tasty flesh. If an animal tastes good enough to be turned into food, it’s fair game. If it can’t defend itself, too bad.

Most people can probably relate to these different attitudes towards animals, regardless of which side they lean towards.

Now if you take those attitudes towards animals and apply them towards human beings, you basically get the lightworker and darkworker polarities.

To a true darkworker, the life of another human being is as inconsequential as the life of a food animal. The energy of other people is nothing more than a meal or a snack. If the darkworker drains or harms other people on the path to his goals, it’s considered no big deal. The darkworker has to eat, right? Other people are valued only in terms of their ability to bring the darkworker pleasure.

I realize that some people have a hard time imagining that anyone could think like this. The same lack of understanding comes up regarding people’s attitudes towards animals. Some people find it unfathomable that anyone could be so cruel as to reduce a chicken to a drumstick. Others have a hard time understanding how anyone could have feelings for an animal.

Most people aren’t polarized when it comes to animals, so they fall somewhere between the extremes. They’ll happily wolf down cows, pigs, chickens, and fish while regarding cats and dogs as beloved pets. If you ask them if they oppose animal cruelty, they might say yes… at the same time willingly funding the slaughterhouse as long as it brings them pleasure. They simply play follow the follower without really thinking through to a consistent philosophical position either way.

Most people aren’t polarized when it comes to human beings either. They’ll be kind to some people and apathetic towards others. They’ll verbally support one ideal while contributing to its opposite through their actions. They’ll claim to believe something is wrong (lying, cheating, hurting people, etc) and then do it anyway. They’ve never taken the time to push through to a consistent philosophy about how other human beings should be treated, or if they’ve tried, they don’t believe it strongly enough to actually implement it.

Lightworkers and darkworkers are people who’ve consciously chosen the extremes in their attitudes towards other people. The lightworker chooses one extreme. The darkworker chooses the other. Because the extreme philosophies are the simplest and most consistent, this choice gives both lightworkers and darkworkers a lot of power to generate results, more than most people are capable of. The notion that power increases with consistency is basically common sense if you give it a little thought. By power I’m not referring to power over other people; I’m talking about power over self here, including self-control and self-mastery.

Since most people aren’t polarized, they experience a mixed morality. That mixture reduces their power because the two polarities are incompatible. If you’re selfish but hold back because your conscience tells you to, you limit yourself. If you’re selfless but succumb to greed now and then, you also limit yourself. The purer you can be one way or the other, the greater the flow of power through your life. The most powerful people on earth are those who can express either fear or love as purely as possible, but not both.
The Darkworker Conscience

Most of us have been socially conditioned to believe that harming others for personal gain is evil. But to a true darkworker, whether others are harmed or not is largely irrelevant. Hurting others isn’t seen as a sacrifice. The conscience of a darkworker is very different from the conscience of a lightworker. To a darkworker, passing up the opportunity for personal gain would be regarded as evil or negligent. It’s like turning down a delicious meal.

The main frustration for darkworkers is that darkworking isn’t regarded as socially acceptable, so darkworkers must overcome a lot of social resistance to achieve their goals. Consequently, most would choose to keep their polarity secret, just as a hunter doesn’t advertise to all the animals in the forest that he’s coming to eat them. While honest with themselves, darkworkers are generally not open and honest with others about their attitudes towards people. Being honest just creates resistance in others and makes it harder for the darkworker to advance.

Are there really people on earth who think like this? Absolutely. Many of them are in positions of great power. Occasionally we see one of them fall from grace, taken down by whistleblowers with lightworker tendencies or perhaps undone by Darkworker Syndrome. Then we ask incredulously, “How could someone do such a thing?”

Do you really think scandals like Enron, the manufactured War in Iraq, or the sub-prime collapse are just the result of a few people exercising poor judgment? Hardly. Such occurrences are the modus operandi of darkworkers. To a darkworker the greatest good is to seek power at any cost. The only thing that holds them back is the fear of losing what they’ve gained. Darkworkers seldom regret what they’ve done, even after a major downfall. They do regret being caught. If they’re really committed, however, they’ll get back in the game and try again, this time more cautiously. Often the biggest problem for a powerful darkworker is being publicly exposed as such. Darkworkers aren’t ashamed of who they are, but they can get pretty upset when other people get in their way. Usually it isn’t lightworkers that expose darkworkers but rather other darkworkers.

Even though darkworkers tend to be a competitive lot, they often team up to achieve their goals when it makes sense, but they’ll turn on each other when it’s advantageous to do so. The perceived benefits must outweigh the bad blood they’ll create, however.

Sometimes darkworkers find themselves in a field where they have some freedom to express their true selves. They won’t do this to the general public, but they can be themselves with their darkworker buddies. For example, they may tell stories about the suckers they scammed in order to get ahead.
Are Darkworkers Evil?

Is a darkworker evil? From the perspective of a lightworker or from non-polarized people, you could say yes. From the darkworker’s perspective, there are basically two possibilities.

First, the darkworker might say, “No, I’m not evil. I’m pursuing my own good, which is the highest good there is.” Darkworkers are Machiavellian and expedient. They recognize that running over people is often more efficient than working with them. If you have to treat a human being like a slice of bacon now and then, so be it.

The second possibility is that the darkworker identifies with evil and consciously embraces that role: “I’ve decided to be evil, and I like it.” (See For Love of Evil.) In this case the darkworker identifies with the social consensus about evil and recognizes himself as having those qualities. However, he doesn’t see this as anything bad or problematic. Evil is equated with freedom and power. The darkworker views non-evil people as weak and sometimes stupid. If the darkworker identifies with the role of the villain, it’s because the villain is the smartest character in the game.

Either way the result is the same. The darkworker’s conscience is aligned with self-service as the highest possible good. Physical reality is a playground for the darkworker’s personal pleasure, and other people are merely tools to be used.

Making the Choice: Hero or Villain

Darkworking is a choice. It’s not a choice I’m willing to make for myself. Nevertheless, it remains an option for conscious growth. Most people never make the decision to polarize as a lightworker or darkworker in their entire lives… not with a real 100% commitment. But it’s only when this commitment is made one way or the other that real power begins to flow through one’s life.

In your life story, you can choose to be the hero, the villain, or an NPC (i.e. non-player character, someone passive who watches the story unfold from the sidelines). Most people live like NPCs, but the hero and the villain have far more power to direct how the story unfolds. There are lots of heroes and lots of villains in this story, but there are orders of magnitude more NPCs.

the main point was that an increase in the number of villains actually induces more NPCs to become heroes. In case you haven’t noticed, this planet is becoming increasingly polarized, meaning that more NPCs than ever are giving serious consideration to choosing sides.

If you don’t choose to be a hero, and you don’t choose to be a villain, then you’re an NPC by default. There’s nothing inherently wrong with being an NPC. Just be aware that if you’re an NPC, your fate is largely at the mercy of the heroes and villains. NPCs end up spending their lives riding the waves created by the heroes and villains, often serving one side or the other without realizing it. When you act from love, you help the heroes in this tale. When you act from fear, you serve the villains. stevepavlina.com

[t1mb3rl1n3]

while this speaks volumes
and I cannot say that it is absolutely wrong
I CAN say that it has been my experience
that the path of the mid-ground
the grey
is quite powerful
being neither polarized towards one end
or the other
but aware and comfortable with both
lends to a position of versatility
I have done what I would consider darkwork
I have performed what I would consider lightwork
I strive for balance of the two
equilibrium
to be both student and master
to be both hunter and nuturer
this axiomatic structure provisoes the abilities
that I feel are necessary to survive in a time
of polarized conflict

namaste

[MiamiSound]

I see what your trying to say. I myself try to follow Taoist views on being nuetral and maybe what the article doesnt include is that you can CHOOSE to be neutral and still grow spiritually. The NPC he is describing is a person who doesn't know how to properly use either of the 3 paths.

[t1mb3rl1n3]

this is true
he is stating that to not polarize
and remain mutable
to follow wave and crest
is to choose to be NPC

I can't say I disagree there
but I say walking the knife edge
between the light and the dark
knowing of both
THAT is mastery
that is balance

running the razor wire
adumbrae otium

[Transcender]

Clap.....clap.....clap, Well said Miami Sound. I couldn't have said it better myself. Actually i could but it would be different thus pointless lol. I wondered for a time what I was. Now my name says it all, I am neither light worker nor dark worker I am a transcender. Though i must admit that i would consider myself a dark worker in one perspective but often i keep myself balanced. Which brings me to my first argument which is that mixed moralities are less powerful because they have both and thus incompatible. Lets look at it not as incompatible but unstable

There polarities shift from one side to other causing them to be confused and unfocused on there real selves. Me i have both light and dark but i keep them stable and balanced thus more focused and not limited to one way or another. I would say i am an opportunist but unlike a dark worker my opportunities are inconsequential. So what if i become the richest or most powerful person on earth. Its just the earth, which brings me to my next disagreement. As a transcender i see evil, good, light and dark as just for lack of a better term illusions. Meaning that they are too subjective too be consider absolute. To me in the essence of all is nothing. So there aren't just two paths like right or wrong or light and dark for one to take. For me the cosmos is my playground and i use light dark, good and evil as just one of my many tools.

I am none of the three people you describe, but i do or have played these roles many times over. I would say better that i am the playwright and director. meaning i set the pace or shake it up by doing either side which maintains a balance in this world. Its amazing how far people will go in these roles but then again a good show needs great actors. They need to be consumed into the illusion and feel the anguish and joy of there thoughts, words and actions. They go far as to even forget that it can all go away as simple as turning the game off.I guess people need an illusion to take away the dullness of eternity even to the point of making that illusion you created your enemy and try to destroy it. most fun lol

Still very well done miami sound, your analysis was spot on in certain perspectives.

[UntoldGlory]

I'm not bothering to read the 'poetic' responses that follow this. If I wanted to read poetry, I'd go pick up a volume of T.S. Eliot.

What you're describing in the original post, Miami, sounds more like a psychic vampire than a Darkworker, although it could be argued that the psy vamp is a subspecies of Darkworker. In other words, psy vamps are Darkworkers, but Darkworkers are not necessarily all psy vamps.

[t1mb3rl1n3]

I'm not bothering to read the 'poetic' responses that follow this. If I wanted to read poetry, I'd go pick up a volume of T.S. Eliot.

[Dabbs]

Clap.....clap.....clap, Well said Miami Sound. I couldn't have said it better myself. Actually i could but it would be different thus pointless lol. I wondered for a time what I was. Now my name says it all, I am neither light worker nor dark worker I am a transcender. Though i must admit that i would consider myself a dark worker in one perspective but often i keep myself balanced. Which brings me to my first argument which is that mixed moralities are less powerful because they have both and thus incompatible. Lets look at it not as incompatible but unstable

There polarities shift from one side to other causing them to be confused and unfocused on there real selves. Me i have both light and dark but i keep them stable and balanced thus more focused and not limited to one way or another. I would say i am an opportunist but unlike a dark worker my opportunities are inconsequential. So what if i become the richest or most powerful person on earth. Its just the earth, which brings me to my next disagreement. As a transcender i see evil, good, light and dark as just for lack of a better term illusions. Meaning that they are too subjective too be consider absolute. To me in the essence of all is nothing. So there aren't just two paths like right or wrong or light and dark for one to take. For me the cosmos is my playground and i use light dark, good and evil as just one of my many tools.

I am none of the three people you describe, but i do or have played these roles many times over. I would say better that i am the playwright and director. meaning i set the pace or shake it up by doing either side which maintains a balance in this world. Its amazing how far people will go in these roles but then again a good show needs great actors. They need to be consumed into the illusion and feel the anguish and joy of there thoughts, words and actions. They go far as to even forget that it can all go away as simple as turning the game off.I guess people need an illusion to take away the dullness of eternity even to the point of making that illusion you created your enemy and try to destroy it. most fun lol

Still very well done miami sound, your analysis was spot on in certain perspectives.

Being a transender makes more sense to me than just being a lightworker or a darkworker.

I had asked in a previous post (#31 in definitions of a darkworker!) isn't it possible to have a middle ground on this?

I honestly believe you have to know yourself in order to help others.

Can you tell me more about being a Transender?

[Transcender]

I can only tell you what being a transcender is to me because the way i understand it being a transcender is dependent on each individual. Yes it is possible to have a middle ground as i do on the light and dark because to me there is neither but we use them to help define our reality. I agree that you must understand yourself before you can help others but that part has no consequence to me because im not on any mission to help others because they can help themselves but if i do help them than so be it its all on a whim. However, ask yourself do you understand yourself through words or something beyond words. If you can than power to you because i know myself but its beyond words to describe it. Because I am a transcender inside i am formless. Yet through this formlessness i take form never and forever as i shift and change constantly. I am the shape of the mind body and soul in infinite possibilities meaning in one way that i am at once and many different times a angel, devil, god, human, alien, animal, sky, and earth. I am everything and nothing. But to make this simpler it was best said by another that I am all in one one in all.

[MiamiSound]

Clap.....clap.....clap, Well said Miami Sound. I couldn't have said it better myself. Actually i could but it would be different thus pointless lol. I wondered for a time what I was. Now my name says it all, I am neither light worker nor dark worker I am a transcender. Though i must admit that i would consider myself a dark worker in one perspective but often i keep myself balanced. Which brings me to my first argument which is that mixed moralities are less powerful because they have both and thus incompatible. Lets look at it not as incompatible but unstable

There polarities shift from one side to other causing them to be confused and unfocused on there real selves. Me i have both light and dark but i keep them stable and balanced thus more focused and not limited to one way or another. I would say i am an opportunist but unlike a dark worker my opportunities are inconsequential. So what if i become the richest or most powerful person on earth. Its just the earth, which brings me to my next disagreement. As a transcender i see evil, good, light and dark as just for lack of a better term illusions. Meaning that they are too subjective too be consider absolute. To me in the essence of all is nothing. So there aren't just two paths like right or wrong or light and dark for one to take. For me the cosmos is my playground and i use light dark, good and evil as just one of my many tools.

I am none of the three people you describe, but i do or have played these roles many times over. I would say better that i am the playwright and director. meaning i set the pace or shake it up by doing either side which maintains a balance in this world. Its amazing how far people will go in these roles but then again a good show needs great actors. They need to be consumed into the illusion and feel the anguish and joy of there thoughts, words and actions. They go far as to even forget that it can all go away as simple as turning the game off.I guess people need an illusion to take away the dullness of eternity even to the point of making that illusion you created your enemy and try to destroy it. most fun lol

Still very well done miami sound, your analysis was spot on in certain perspectives.

Today i figured out what you are

[Transcender]

Im not much for labels but i find it relative to a certain perspective of myself and rather flattering. Though I'm not sure in your understanding that this is a complement or insult or none of the above lol. You make it sound though as if you've been trying to figure me out for awhile or it could be me just flattering myself. So what am I, the illusionist or spiritual scientist Miami Sound? I am rather curious.

[Protonexus]

Can I ask does evil really exist if you don't believe it does?

[Dabbs]

Can I ask does evil really exist if you don't believe it does?

Does true good really exist, if you don't believe it does?

[MiamiSound]

Im not much for labels but i find it relative to a certain perspective of myself and rather flattering. Though I'm not sure in your understanding that this is a complement or insult or none of the above lol. You make it sound though as if you've been trying to figure me out for awhile or it could be me just flattering myself. So what am I, the illusionist or spiritual scientist Miami Sound? I am rather curious.

Your description struck a cord in me and i became very confused about some things. I had a dream and in it there was a magician molding energies from thin air, playing with them, assimilating them. When i woke up i knew what my subconscious was trying to explain to me.

You are the Magician, the Nature Messenger, the Slick Wind
Operating from a place beyond subjectivity. You see past Illusions and reinforced perceptions. You have the power to transform energy. Above the "Complicated" drama of morals you have a simple view of everything and do as you want because it's natural. Like the wind forming a tornado or cool breeze. All natural.

Reading your previous post i in some way came together.

Let me elaborate

For the longest i have battled with the "Bad" things i sometimes do like taking money, not paying for things, using people to my advantage. I do these things but i do it with the best of intentions so i never consider them harmful. I only do it when i know the outcome wont be a negative on the other's part. Kind of like a Robin Hood of modern times. i shift dramatically towards either feelings of helping others and projecting love to other feelings of self interest and cunning sometimes all mixed. An example would be that if see an opportunity to take something that i need without paying for it, i do it. But if i see someone on my way that needs it more i would gladly give it to them.

As i see it everything is energy. some energy wants to be displaced, moved, absorbed, replaced, ect. The energy communicates with us unconsciously through our perceptions, often arising in our minds as spontaneous schemes or windows of opportunity. By helping ourselves to what we need we are riding the natural flow of life and helping the show go on. I have been doing this since very young, slipping through the cracks, naturally dodging consequence, always crossing paths with the right person and situations. We are the instruments of Universal Mind. Ofcorse we are taken care of.

Anyways

[Rieanna]

I'm not bothering to read the 'poetic' responses that follow this. If I wanted to read poetry, I'd go pick up a volume of T.S. Eliot.

Well, at least you have decent taste in poetry...although I would have to point out that E.E. Cummings is a bit more...now

[Transcender]

Well thats one way to describe me thanks for your analysis of me and revelation of yourself. Once alchemist were seen as magicians and they transformed matter like transforming energy called transmutation. I guess one could say that I am a spiritual alchemist but oh so much more. I have been fortunate as well in life.

As for protonexus and dabbs it depends on your view of good and evil. Still if i don't believe either exists than it doesn't as far as i am concerned. Actuality to me is a perception of linear reality that compels you to believe that there is an absolute truth or indisputable. If you believe that there is an indisputable good or evil than it is true to you. This the way i see the world and of course it may change as everything is possible and to me change is a constant. But for now i don't believe that it exists and thus it doesn't.

[Dabbs]

Well, at least you have decent taste in poetry...although I would have to point out that E.E. Cummings is a bit more...now

Wow... electric fuzz..... lol...

[MoonFlower]

Hi people!
I had never heard anyone separating light and dark working so I was interested.
I guess it all depends on how far your perceptions reach in any given situation. I've never been able to define myself at all really and i've never been able to 'make it' in this world, so the only real fulfilment i've ever found was asking to become whatever I was meant to be at the time. It changes OFTEN. To me it seems like I fluctuate depending on the outside world and my own evolution having to do with acceptance and non judgment. I've done absolutely everything you're not supposed to, I owe everyone I've ever met money, I'm a spiritual counselor, a great but horrible mother and not a very good friend although behind all these, I've always spread laughter joy and hope all over the place, along with unconditional love.
Sometimes mean things do nice things, sometimes nice have bad consequences. I just figure, who am i to know exactly what this is for or what that's for....my real job is i think is to be where I am doing what I'm doing moment by moment. Being a drunk on the street after having lost my kids was one of the best things that ever happened to me. It wouldn't have worked out so well if someone was there for me. I have recently re-realized that having supportive friends around me can be limiting because most people aren't that way with me and so when someone is, I feel like I have something to live up to and something to lose. On the other hand, to have a supportive friend at times is a lifesaver.
How are these people supposed to know if they're light or dark working? I don't think it matters, they are doing what is best at the time.
Being nice to some people is good for you, being nice to the same people tomorrow might be bad for you. Chewing them up and spitting them out might be what is necessary for the day and our inner urges and feelings tell us that, we just have to listen and act without judgment. For me anyway this is what I've found to work best. People need what they need to learn and grow and release and it seems to me to be a blend of the two, without any boundaries or judgments or labels.
Just be and do today what you are meant to be and do today and realize that it will change from day to day or month to month or whatever.
That's what I'm thinkin anyway
I just needed to add that I got my kids back 8 months later and that was about 10 years ago. Since then things have gone all over the board of 'good and bad' but I see how it was all necessary and therefore "good".
About good and evil, have you ever asked to speak with a demon or the thing people call satan? They're around. I always thought it was better to ask directly intead of asking people.

[RadiantZeal]

Isn't Lightworking the work to spread light and illumination?
Isn't Darkworking the work to spread darkness and obscurity?

Just sayin'...

[MoonFlower]

Well that was short and to the point! I wish I could talk that way haha!
Good point-it just seems like darkworking still illuminates eventually even though that may not be the intention. Some people I know seem to me to be "darkworkers" and when I was a kid I dealt with "demons" a lot and it always seems to end up having the opposite effect in the end because of people's reactions to it all. Maybe it takes a long time but when people lie and steal from you just because they can, if you care about yourself at all you'll learn how to take care of yourself and also not to harbor resentments because of it's effect on you and add understanding to it so you can move on in confidence. I don't know