Sometimes i feel i need to use the "dark" in order to work for the "light"!?

[lillies1978]

First, i guess i need to say that I'm not sure if I am a lightworker, or a lightworker to be, nor do i really care to concern myself with yet another label to live up to ....soooo I'm not sure whether this is the right section for this or not...it could be titled "i need to use the "bad" in order to work for the "good"" as well...though that doesn't sounds so fancy

Ok, to finally come to the point ... i do believe in the softspoken, gentle, unconditional loving way of handeling things, though there are people and/or situations, where i do have such a hard time living up to my own ideal(the softspoken/..which is truly something that i can feel inside and it is very,very important to me)... usually if this is due to my "ego" i will humble myself, cause i am aware of that Ego of mine and i would laugh at myself, for basing anything on my Ego ...
Other times i find the issue has nothing to do with my ego, or my issues, or it simple goes beyond that, and that is when i find myself ,lets say, going in a different direction, not so gentle to say the least...depending on how big the issue i try to remain tact & respectful, yet at a certain degree that will vanish as well. During those times i feel like a hypocrite, and i am, to my own definition of hypocrite, cause i'm doing what i usually resent ... and as much as i can justify for myself why i did what i did, it leaves a bad aftertaste...

I do believe in "the art of surrender", if seen it working to many times to disbelief it .... though, in surrender you observe, sit back, you see that somehow your silent wish is being executed, mostly i find through other people...no i wonder if these are people are used as tools, for "divine" will...and if that was so, could I/we be used as a tool at times, cause someone has to do it? Meaning , am I supposed to be doing that and shouldn't question myself all the time? This is so hard to explain for me, i hope i made sense ....thank you for reading

[lillies1978]

thank you lavella great to see you here!

[Fjoem]

Ye I know what you mean Lillies, its like Jesus getting angry at the money lenders, i always find that its easier to bring happiness and a positive energy to someone than to argue with them over something like "politics" though.

I'm of the opinion that unless someone invites you to discuss something like spirituality or "politics", if you dont have something nice to say, dont say anything at all But I do believe that there are "money lender" moments, I guess all we can do is follow our intuition.

As regards to 'tool', I think we're all divine 'tools' (as funny as that sounds), like pawns on a chess board in this big "light v dark" escapade, i think that we're more lightly to be a pawn of the "light" side, if we follow our intuition and try to listen to our higher selves.
I believe that we are all one and I think that there is a lesson to be learned from everything, if someone says something hurtful to you, its like "God" acting through them help you learn your own lesson.

Thats pretty cool about the art of surrender though, i'll check that out, thanks

Peace out

[lillies1978]

I'm usually very tactful, diplomatic, or say nothing....but as you say, there are these moments/situations, where i can't help but putting my foot down!

[LunarKismet]

In my opinion, "dark" and "light" work together in pursuit of a common goal. You cannot have yin without yang. It is simply a matter of balance.

[Achilles, Ines.]

I think we have to understand what is our dark.. what is darkness. So that we can do a good use of it.

[Justin D.]

I know exactly what you mean Sue. I believe that people benefit from the experience regardless, not everyone has acted correctly towards me throughout my life, but I have learned from the experiences in a way that was necessary for me at the time. But I do not enjoy it when I act like that towards others, I always do it because of my own problems and it hurts me to do that to them. So i believe it is something we can work to change, but until then it is what those around us need.

with love
Justin

[lillies1978]

awwww...good to see you

[MiamiSound]

You are like Nature? Loving and Cruel to relative degrees? Maybe our nature is to be like nature?

[Justin D.]

awwww...good to see you

you too , I was compelled to write

[Dabbs]

I really don't think that putting your foot down constitutes dark...

We are the warriors. It's what we do best. We are able to tell right from wrong and are able to squash what we feel is wrong. Yes, we like to do it in a loving way and we even temper our anger to soften the blow. But, we are still responsible for making sure that people get the message.

Whether we walk in the shadows or in full sun, there will always be times when we have to get a little louder to be heard...

[Patryc]

indeed - putting your foot down is just assertiveness, totally need to ensure you are not manipulated by others, it's also a part of unconditional love as you need to include yourself in that unconditional love and ensure no one abuses or manipulates you as well

[bluewaterdance]

I think there is a balance to all things. And part of that is destroying what is old and not working to make way for new things. Don't most kids enjoy knocking down the block castle or snowman just as much as building it?

I think the aggressive and destructive within us is totally normal, but only how we choose to use it could be questioned.

My last thought is one I read in an East/Western thought book about the subject of anger and the meanings in both cultures. The ego-anger piece is obviously not valued in Eastern culture (but OK in U.S.) . But anger about injustice is a different thing altogether - and it is worthy of fighting in both contexts.

[lillies1978]

i think i do have some issues accepting that part of myself which is capable of doing the "dirty work"...i know it is there, but i try to avoid using it as much as i can(due to much passion, that isn't as easy as it might sound! passion drives me)....and i see it as part of nature, however than i think, we humans have evolved in so many ways, why not there too....

[Runeth]

First, i guess i need to say that I'm not sure if I am a lightworker, or a lightworker to be, nor do i really care to concern myself with yet another label to live up to ....soooo I'm not sure whether this is the right section for this or not...it could be titled "i need to use the "bad" in order to work for the "good"" as well...though that doesn't sounds so fancy

Ok, to finally come to the point ... i do believe in the softspoken, gentle, unconditional loving way of handeling things, though there are people and/or situations, where i do have such a hard time living up to my own ideal(the softspoken/..which is truly something that i can feel inside and it is very,very important to me)... usually if this is due to my "ego" i will humble myself, cause i am aware of that Ego of mine and i would laugh at myself, for basing anything on my Ego ...
Other times i find the issue has nothing to do with my ego, or my issues, or it simple goes beyond that, and that is when i find myself ,lets say, going in a different direction, not so gentle to say the least...depending on how big the issue i try to remain tact & respectful, yet at a certain degree that will vanish as well. During those times i feel like a hypocrite, and i am, to my own definition of hypocrite, cause i'm doing what i usually resent ... and as much as i can justify for myself why i did what i did, it leaves a bad aftertaste...

I do believe in "the art of surrender", if seen it working to many times to disbelief it .... though, in surrender you observe, sit back, you see that somehow your silent wish is being executed, mostly i find through other people...no i wonder if these are people are used as tools, for "divine" will...and if that was so, could I/we be used as a tool at times, cause someone has to do it? Meaning , am I supposed to be doing that and shouldn't question myself all the time? This is so hard to explain for me, i hope i made sense ....thank you for reading

This is what i have learned myself:

We indigos do have problems with being tolerant at others' ego and lack of self honesty and cowardice; it's so irritating when you know what's wrong and they don't listen to you because of their fear... but they are living their process and have their own free will and they will grow and heal when they are ready... despite we're here to help and heal others we must know we're not like "everyone's saviours" so be it... at the same time, we grow up in this world with this issue of separation; so they teach you there is right or wrong, gentle or agressive, etc. But once growing into this and learning how to integrate both aspects you can leanr about "gentle confrontation" as i have learned from my angels. I takes some practice, but you can get over your own irritability and eagerness to help everyone and speak the truth gently without stressing yourself. Ask your angels for help with this and you'll get it.
All the love of the universe to you. Runeth

[lillies1978]

Thank you! ... i think you are on to something ...i'll need to go inside once again*sigh*

[fred aus indo]

it's like yin and yang... i heard this saying that " in order to reach what u want u must go back instead of approaching them"

[Amur]

Most of our neglated feelings and aspects of ourselves are portrayed in darkness as to not intrude with our current consciousness, they remain inside the unconsciousness and is a quite natural way with dealing and coping with things. The more rules and social standards in society that goes against our own primal natures, the more darkness resides inside...

[StillSane]

I saw that too, but I then also realised that if everythings a mirror, then I'm a tool too, an even bigger one if I don't think I'm one. But at least I'm a shifting spanner, and they're screwdrivers. I'm awake and know I'm supposed to change, they're being used for one thing and are probably gona be getting screwed in the end. I take the neatral approach coz everyone has their free will.

[wolf89]

i don;t need the dark i like and love the light its the only reazon that i live i love it