One tin shoulder rides away

[Quiet Knight]

I hope this fits in this subject area. I have heard this more lately and it brings deep reflection from decades past, when other wars and hatred were here, but it appears to mans anger, greed and hate still today.

The only thing I never understood what made the valley people mad, the mountain people were willing to share their treasure with them? It made no sense, to show that most wars make no sense.

I could not find a version befitting the era, so this one fits today. This first one is a bit graphic. I did find one later and added it below before posting.

This song to me, really expresses the great inhumanity mans does to his fellow humans in one cause or another. So sadly many like lemmings, so easily follow the leaders and march off to war, to kill the evil son of ????? It is right to defend your self, but many wars do not fit that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCCR2...elated&search=

Here is one set to scenes from Billy Jack, the movie which had the song in it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM4ADoVc6TU

I found a old cartoon version, but the audio is not as good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTBx-...eature=related

[Quiet Knight]

I like the Coven version, I sense more passion and ??? in it. I know there are so many songs, with such insight, feeling and emotion in the songs or the 60s and early 70s. I do think far more in general, then today. I know the youth of today may beg to differ, but I just don't see or feel it.

Most songs today are so loud and jerky in rhythm, and then you can hardly even hear what they are saying.

Thanks

[tadpole1]

I like the Coven version, I sense more passion and ??? in it. I know there are so many songs, with such insight, feeling and emotion in the songs or the 60s and early 70s. I do think far more in general, then today. I know the youth of today may beg to differ, but I just don't see or feel it.

Most songs today are so loud and jerky in rhythm, and then you can hardly even hear what they are saying.

Thanks

Thanks for that QK. My favourite is the cartoon. I think there is something deep within us that responds to stories - maybe fables from childhood, which always have a moral. Also I find puppet-shows extraordinarily powerful vehicles for speaking to us - maybe for the same reason.
(Probably off-topic, but had to say that).

Love all your links, though.
Noreen

[lillies1978]

great song! so true!

....to me it seems that every country that dooms instinct "male" behaviour within(territorial battles, violence,....), will look as a collective for a possibility to "vent" outside, they will attack a whole other country(suddenly the violence is ok)....and mostly wars are based on religion, not only cause they think it's justifiable as a "holy" war...but also cause "religion" is the easiest to pick a fight over, who can truly proove the other right or wrong! we se it here on IS on a daily basis...religion has then nothing to do with personal faith, it becomes a dogma that everyone should live by, they turn religion into an absolute ... almost evrybody does it, at least to a degree, only the fewest don't! sad but true....perhaps humans are not that great afterall, we just like to think that

[indigoglow4u]

thanks QK love that song from way back when I was just a kid.
It resonates so well still....

makes me wonder.....

[Query]

I really wish I didn't watch the first link The saddest image to me was the man with his head covered by a bag (PoW) hugging his little boy.
What terrible, terrible saddness.

[FreeSpeak]

Not to point out speeling errors but I gotta tell ya that the first few times I heard this song I heard it exactly the way you have it spelled in the headline.

I also heard it as "One Thin Shoulde".. Here's the lyrics....


One Tin Soldier (The Legend of Billy Jack)
by Lambert-Potter, sung by Coven

Listen, children, to a story
That was written long ago,
'Bout a kingdom on a mountain
And the valley-folk below.

On the mountain was a treasure
Buried deep beneath the stone,
And the valley-people swore
They'd have it for their very own.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.

So the people of the valley
Sent a message up the hill,
Asking for the buried treasure,
Tons of gold for which they'd kill.

Came an answer from the kingdom,
"With our brothers we will share
All the secrets of our mountain,
All the riches buried there."

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.

Now the valley cried with anger,
"Mount your horses! Draw your sword!"
And they killed the mountain-people,
So they won their just reward.

Now they stood beside the treasure,
On the mountain, dark and red.
Turned the stone and looked beneath it...
"Peace on Earth" was all it said.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.


♥

[Quiet Knight]

In wars, each side tries to monsterfy or demonize the other, so the soldiers feel ok about killing them. Humans seem so much more willing to kill and enslave others, if they can tell themselves, the others are less then human, evil and or less then they are. Then you can take what of theirs what you want, kill them, enslave them, rape their women and so forth.

Star Trek used to have scenarios on this topic too, but Enemy Mine really puts it up front and center. The first clip is just a short one, but has a need message, the second clip shows more what the movie is about if you have never seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k4kiz9UWY8


http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2024079641/


Another good one is Little Big Man, the American Indian story of brutality and war, from the perspective of the Indians. These movies affect emotions and feelings on a long term basis, at least for me it did.