I've been doing a great deal of reading and praying as of late...and I've been learning to understand the make-up of "man" and the link between his spirit, soul and body...and what distinguishes each of them from one another. The info I'll be sharing in this thread comes from a book called "the spiritual man."

That being said, man is made up of three parts: spirit, soul and body...How did each come into being?...what part does each play in how man manifests and functions in this world?...how do the three parts as a whole and/or separately link us to God?

It's my hope this thread will serve as a catalyst for greater things to come...

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well number one, fuck religion. fuck spirituality, because thats the basis of religion. its basically just intellectual materialism for people to debate upon, which thus turns into some kind of political dance for the insane. oh and christ. well, christ means light. so fuck jesus too.
and fuck the dark and the light. because thats based on myth perpetuated by religion and the limited sight of the ancients who created religion.

spirit/soul/body are one. the spirit is the soul, and the body is a holographic representation of the two being manifest in one. there is no other link to life when it comes to god.
i am, you are, we are, all gods. we are all spirit made manifest in a human body, making us a god, and when all combined together, simply, we are all the one we call god. just all in different bodies, different experiences.
and we can be say do whatever we want, because we're in a free will universal holographic multidimensional reality.

the body is made of pure energy. so is the world around us, it too is pure energy. and this one often gets people too, all of us together, create this reality we see before us.

so, if we are to change reality, first we must change.

Welcome darksearch. Welcome original watcher. Thank you both for viewing. Original watcher thank you for reminding me to add a few things.

First, for others viewing this thread it would be helpful if you can briefly state your general spiritual belief in order to allow others to understand your frame of reference, however if you choose not to...this is fine also.

Second, all thoughts and viewpoints are welcome. I only ask that people respect the views of each other and try to refrain from using profanity or any other language that may be offensive.

Third, my purpose for starting this thread is to see what others think or believe and understand how others have come to their various viewpoints or beliefs and start a dialogue that can hopefully lead to better understanding of man and his relationship (or lack thereof) to God.

Fourth, I started this thread in the religion section under the presumption the content would mostly likely be seen as religious in nature. For those of you who have a bias towards religion, spirituality or christianity you may not want to post here.

I am a christian and therefore will be making references to God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, the bible and many other "religious" concepts, beliefs and/or sources. Nevertheless all are welcome.

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I use personality, soul, and monad to explain the lower triad referred to as man above. Monad just being an esoteric term which is basically what you call spirit above. Body being the marriage of monad and matter which brings forth soul and personality. To these eyes that relates to our involution which was our trip down into matter from that place from whence we have come. We have now reached the end of our involution and are journeying back home which to these eyes is our spiritual evolution. It all seems to be about energy and raising the vibration of the energy of our conscious being. Language being cumbersome a tool to use we have many labels used to explain these energies which seem to be the same energy though at different vibration. Thus many get riles at various labels which I find to be quite amusing so I am looking forward to this thread. Much love and light to everyone.

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well i dont care if i offend anyone. thats not my problem, its their's.
im not into religion because its obviously bullshit.
as long as you are happy thats all i care about. plus my own happiness too
im not into spirituality. im into being. and deeply into mybeing.

word up.

I am a Christian of the Roman Catholic denomination. I am well-read in Western religion, history, and philosphy.
I usually hear it as mind, body, and soul. Isn't the spirit the same as the soul? Or are you referring to the individuals soul and the Holy Spirit?

the soul and the body are conected harm the soul and you harm the body enlight the soul and you enlight the body but the body is just a house for the soul harm the body and the soul is unhurt but love the body and the soul grous and if you love everiting around you your soul will be eternal

We are a shadow of our soul,

the soul is the real self,

But a mind that is obsessed with the physical world and its temporary nature will never be able to become awakened,

When a person realizes that he is asleep (sensual obsession) he has made the first step to awakening,

the soul communicates through symbolic language in your dreams and astral travel,

Forget about trying to understand the concept of god,

everything, every word, every thought will not even come close to capturing the concept of the creator,

at the same time we can say that the creative spark lives in all of us but can only be become whole in us through transmutation,

and that´s where the path begins,

your life is an innitiation,

your search becomes the path,

only the lonely shall enter the nuptial chamber (the place where you become one with your soul).

you are not what you think you are,

you are asleep.

Thanks for viewing and welcome to those of you whom I've had yet to greet. It appears we've gotten off to a good start. I'd like to summarize what I've read so far, and hopefully develop loose definitions of the terms "spirit", " "soul" and "body"...however if my depictions are inaccurate or off base please feel free to correct me. I will begin with spirit:

As far as the spirit is concerned I've heard the following "energy"..."monad"..."the sames as the soul"...and "not separate from the body and soul"...

I would also like to add "breath of life" based on the following:

"According to biblical teachings God formed man from the dust of the ground" or "matter" as some call it...."and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

"As soon as the "breath of life", which is man's spirit, came into contact with man's body, the soul was produced. The breath of life became man's spirit. Jesus taught that it is the spirit that gives life (John 6:63). This breath of life comes from the Lord of Creation or the Creator."

To answer your question Charity, for the sake of this discussion/dialogue... the Holy Spirit is separate and distinct from the spirit of man.

Please feel free to comment or add to the definition...and then we will define the soul....

the spirit is the connection between the physical body and the soul.

The soul does not have a body ( I saw my soul in an astral trip and it looked like if I were looking into soldering light, flash).

That is the soul does not have a body with hands or feet, it is just a mass of light with no definite outline, it moved like fluidic light,

That´s the best way I can describe it,

the soul lives in a world of all light but it is not aware of its own existence,

so the soul clothes itself with a more definite body which it can use to incarnate into the lower realms (the astral and the physical),

the soul yearns for experiences which will enable it to become aware of its existence and aquire abilties such as mastering existence in the lower realms,

The souls descends from its world (the pleroma) with a spiritual body to the astral and from there to the physical.

After death the process is reversed.

Our personality is purged in the astral and from there it goes to the mental,

The mental world is paradise, it is where we get to rest with all our existential glory,

bliss.

reincarnation (the cycle of birth and death) ceases when we become enlightned,

when we realize the nature of our cosmic existentialism.

The first step to verifying all of this is to practice astral travel and prove to yourself that there is such a thing as an astral realm,

until then everything will be based on words.

Adonis it's interesting how you describe the ascent and descent of the soul into the astral realm I always considered it to be the other way around. So instead of the soul, I would say the spirit is able to descend and ascend to the spiritual realm. How else would people be able to talk to spirit guides and the spirits of loved ones or others who have passed away?

So are you saying that a soul cannot exist without a spirit and a spirit cannot exist without a soul? Another thing do we really need to astral project in order to believe there is a astral or spiritual realm? I simply believe that there is a spiritual realm. I mean if I believe such thing as a spirit exists then shouldn't it be understood that I also believe there is a spiritual realm. I mean how could someone believe in one without believing the other exists.

Darksearch...I'm curious...what do you mean when you say that you can see, feel, hear, smell and move energy? What is the source of this energy?

Thank You, YSpirit. I take it from your definition that the spirit is universal to humanity. How different is the spirit in humanity from that of other beings (Christian example being angels)?

No problem. As far as the definition above, I prefer to call it the threads definition...My purpose for mentioning the biblical information above was to offer context for including "breath of life" in the definition.

And to answer your question regarding how the spirit in humanity differs from that of other "created" beings such as angels...from what I understand the angels were created as spirits, and man is unique in that he is a "living soul", possessing a spirit, soul, and body. Even so, all created beings that have life possess a spirit, however this brings to question whether or not angelic beings are purely spirits or if they too possess a soul and are considered to be alive as we humans are. I would say no, but just thought I'd throw it out there for discussion.

Thanks for asking this question Charity. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? I would love to hear them.

The physical body is temporal matter, but everyone who now is, will be, & has been were always meant to be a part of creation. Jesus, the pure one, came to show us how to heal ourselves, our way back to purity, & back to the Father the Native Tribes referred to as Grandfather. The Native Tribes always considered God was a good Father who loved his children.

All human beings have done at least a little good & a little evil. Is a person of Native heritage saying to another, forgiven me what I did to you any different than a European person, an Oriental person, an African person saying forgive me?

Repentance is merely saying your sorry & asking for forgiveness then turning away from trying to harm anyone intentionally. Or turning away from darkness. Forgiveness is also forgiving people who continually perpetrate darkness upon you without their stopping their actions. I tell such people don't bother visiting me anymore. That's on a personal level but often on what is now local, state, & national levels we cannot stop politicians, bankers, corporations, & religions that are up to no good & spin their lies as if they were the truth.

Forgiven them. Love your enemies, return good for evil done to you, & pray for those who use you despitefully. Just those 4 simple teachings will keep a person in spiritual love & light. Be as wise as a serpent & as harmless as a dove. Directing yourself in a non violent manner towards others as well as non manipulative manner towards others. I've studied martial arts through my life but that was mostly for dance, and playing music on stage. Even so I'd walk away, run away, or try to talk someone out of fighting it that were the case. They might think I am a coward when in reality I consider them a part of creation & I really don't want to hurt them.

Been more years than I remember a fellow started getting a arrogant towards me then he noticed I went into a martial arts stance, and he said, you just went into a martial arts stance. He didn't want to pursue thing any further. I am human. Backed into a corner the instinct for self preservation comes into play, but I don't go out looking for trouble or to cause trouble for people.

Martial arts like playing a musical instrument are forms of self discipline. The disciples of Jesus were learning Spiritual Disciplines. Jesus was taking them out of the being a part of man's evil worldly system even though they would have to live under that system during their lives upon earth until all things are concluded.

Learn to solve your problems. Learn to not constantly talk to other people about your problems as they probably have problems of their own. I have friends that can barely talk about anything else than their problems. Since I know their background concerning the things that have happened to them I know they are in a constant state of shock, withdraw, & unhappiness.

Learn you direction in life. I am a professional musician, comedian, actor, and odds & percentages player. Even so my relationship with God is more important than fame or money that are only temporary things in this world. I always direct myself in a professional way even though people who do not know me don't know I am doing these things.

A friend stopped over one night. I said, lets go into town to the coffee house. I picked up my guitar & away we went. Walking through the door I heard music that didn't make me cringe. A very good folk/rock band. After the show they invited us to a party they were going to play at for a bit at someone's home.

The person had a stage, table, chairs, & benches set up in their basement. Outside a fire was going. I eventually gravitated to the outside & the fire. See the fire, drink the fire in through your eyes, & senses, become the fire.
My friend and I went upstairs as she had to use the bathroom. A fellow asked me to play a song. So I played a song. He said, Roy Orbison. I said, no it's a song I wrote. Would have been a charter for Roy or several other people.

Outside to the fire, playing guitar, joking with people, having fun, a good time was had by all. I asked my friend a couple days later if I had looked spontaneous at the party. She said, "Yes." I said, I wasn't spontaneous at all because I am a pro at what I do & I am well rehearsed. I used music & comedy as my nets like a fisherman to draw people in to where I can direct a thing called, thought towards them.

Jesus said, come & will teach you to be the fishers of men. I just have lots more fun than other people doing things because I combine it all with the things I love & enjoy doing.

Direction in life just as a movie has a Director, writers, actors, lights, camera's action.

I traveled most of my adult life. Same problems in every town, burg, or city I lived. Newspapers full of letters to the editor complaining about the same things people were complainging about in the last place I lived. While I am just having fun traveling through or passing through those people are all upset with life, and the problems of their town, their selves, their family problems, problems of their neighborhood, Nation, and world in general.

Help those around you in the ways you can, but they also have to learn to help & heal themselves. I study prophecy. I don't view this world from a judgmental point of view but from a prophetic view as a series of events will occur from the points of time called Beginning & End.

Currently I am only looking for a possible literal mark of the beast, and the Two Witnesses to come forth & begin their days of prophecy against this world. Against this world are the key worlds as Jesus came to turn his followers away from this world & it's evil system that he knew would only get larger & far more evil.

Consider life to be an adventure. A treat. You couldn't experience anything at all if you hadn't ever been this thing, Alive. But there is symbolic death to this world as Jesus said those lose their lives for my sake will regain their lives. Myself I think I was born dead to this world?

This universe a dimension. God watches & listens from another dimension. This dimesion a reflection of the dimensions of Light & Darkness. Appears darkness & evil are winning, but they aren't as that is what prophecy says will happen.

For all anyone knows this universe could be a free form aquarium floating around in God's home? Life a matter of free will personal choices by any individual.