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Saturn Return - Come again?

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When I first heard the term “Saturn Return” I was 25 years old. I was standing in the physical science section of a Barnes & Nobel in Chesapeake, Virginia with my two-year-old daughter on my hip and thumbing through a copy of “The Hallographic Universe” by Michael Talbot and trying not to be rude to the little woman standing in front of me.

“I’m sorry ma’am, could you repeat that?”

“I said, you may not realize it now, but you have your work cut out for you” she said brightly.

The little woman was sixty if she was a day, and dressed like something straight out of an advertisement for ‘new age living.’ Flowy skirt, tunic, leather boots laced to her knees, her almost white hair tied back with a scarf and enough dangly jewelry to open her own shop.

I glanced down at my daughter, thinking she was talking about her. My angel baby. Even at two years old she rarely gave me any problems; unless of course I was trying to feed her beets. I looked back, confused.

“Good heavens, not the baby!” said the woman, rolling her eyes and reaching out to ruffle my daughter’s hair. The movement set all the bracelets on her arm to clinking and clacking. I’d never seen so many bracelets on one arm before; stones in every color and shape, leather bands with letters engraved on them; a cuff that looked like a copy of an Egyptian piece.

“She’ll be fine. She’s been here lots of times, haven’t you beautiful?” she said, laughing gently. To my surprise, my daughter, usually very reserved around strangers, grinned at her and said “all!” For some reason this made the woman laugh again.

“See?” she said, looking back at me. “She’ll be fine. No, I was talking about you.”

“Me?”

“Yes, you. You’ve hidden it all away, haven’t you?” she said shaking her head.

I scowled at her, not liking where this was headed. There was no way she could know about what I'd walked away from.

She reached out a finger and touched the point between my eyebrows. “Up here – you locked it all away and refuse to let it out. Like I said, you have you work cut out for you.” She sighed, and then her look turned sad.

“Right now you think I’m nuttier than a fruit cake, and that’s allright” she said with a small, wistful smile. “But you’ll remember this one day, probably after it happens, just remember what I’m telling you now.

When you come to your Saturn Return everything you’ve tucked away up here,” she tapped me between the eyebrows again, “will make itself heard and you’ll have to make a choice.” She paused, took a deep breath then said, “when you come to that point you’ll either have to chose to continue on as you are,” she shuddered slightly “or you’ll have to completely reassess everything and become the person you were meant to be.”

She turned her head sideways then, looking at me sharply, and I remember thinking how much she looked like a little bird; a bird looking curiously at something shiny she’d found on the ground.

“They’re going to try to keep you from waking up though I think, they’re going to try hard. It’s important that you fight them.” She straightened her head then, gave a sharp little nod as if something had met with her approval, and then gave herself a shake, causing all her baubles to jangle again.

“Very important.”

Then she turned on her heel and walked away, all the material of her skirts and tunic and scarf sort of fluttering behind her. None of it had made sense. Silly new age clap trap. Somewhere beneath the surface of my mind memories of when I’d been a kid started bubbling towards the surface, but I put a lid on that quickly. That was over. Done with. Besides, she’d said it. She was nuts.

“Mom-mom-mom” my daughter was patting my face now, trying to get my attention. “mom – mom, write!” she said, frowning at me.

“Write?”

“write lady!” she said again, then reached down and patted my purse where I always kept my journal so that I could record random thoughts and odd things that happened to me. I remember writing it all down while my daughter sat pulling all the books off of the “geology” shelf, stacking them in piles, and then putting them back on the shelf again. The little bird-woman’s bizzare behavior joined all the other oddities in my journal, and eventually the journal joined its fellows in a rubbermaid box in the attic.

It wasn’t until I was sorting through the boxes about two years after I’d gone through my own Saturn Return (though I didn’t know then that it was called that) that I found the journal again – and re-read the incident. So much had happened in the five years since that little woman had spoken to me. Curious I went to work researching the term she’d used.
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Research on Saturn Return

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Research on Saturn Return

I was probably about 31 or so when I discovered that journal and the entry about the woman in the bookstore and, given what had happened to me in the last few years, decided to look into what she'd said.

The term "Saturn Return" refers to the time when Transiting Saturn's position is identical to Saturn's placement in the birth chart. This culmination of a cycle occurs roughly every 28-29 years for each of us. Just going on this information I nearly quit my research right then. I’ve never been big on Astrology. Not arguing that planetary gravities and tidal pulls can have an effect on people, but the astrological charts and graphs have always left me cold.

But I kept at it and found that some astrologers refer to the Saturn Return as a sort of cosmic report card; a time when people are forced to re-evaluate everything they’ve come to believe in up to that point; re-think the direction their life is moving in; determine what they need to do to change in order to continue to grow and evolve; to get rid of those things and beliefs and relationships that no longer serve a meaningful purpose in our life. That once we get rid of these things then we have made room for new things; new beliefs and relationships and attitudes. That this re-evaluation period sort of jump-starts the next part of your life.

There’s just one problem with this – and that is that this same time period (ages 28-32) when the Saturn Return occurs for most people is aproximately the same time that most individuals, at least in western society, are encouraged to “get serious” and “shoulder their responsibilities.”

Hindsight being twenty twenty, ten years after I did the original research I realize that so many things start building up at this point in a person’s life – it’s almost as if it were a conspiracy. Many people are just getting married, or are thinking about having children at this age. Careers are beginning to take shape – promotions encouraging people to move out of an apartment and into a real house, with a real mortgage.

Mind you – children and a mortagae and marriage do not necessarily mean that you won’t be able to take advantage of your Saturn Return; it just makes it more difficult because of the opportunities and obligations that you have accrued, but all of these responsibilities and obligations conspiring to quell the restlessness that is building at this point; to silence the voice in your head that is screaming to be heard. “Is this all there is? Isn’t there anything more? Isn’t it time for some real change?”

“Oh yes,” society soothes. “There’s plenty more. Trade in your car for a more expensive model; your house for a bigger house. Put in for that promotion to pay for it all. Channel your restlessness into your job. You can’t change the status quo, so change your hair style, your clothes. You’re not happy? Take out a loan, put in a swimming pool, go on a vacation. Anything so that you don’t have to think about the questions that are going through your head.”

And, before you know it, the window of opportunity has closed, and it will be another 28 or so years before everything aligns so completely again.

Did you take advantage of that window? Did you use it to re-evaluate your life? Did you take the step outside of your box and allow it to penetrate your soul? If so – change will follow over the next decade; cascading from one area of your life to the next. Realizations and opportunities blooming in ways you could never have imagined; skills and abilities manifesting as you least expect them.

However, if you dug in your heels and fought the change; fought to maintain the status quo (and this happens more times than not) it is as if a giant door slams down, and all those wonderous possibilites start sorting themselves out into practical explanations for the things that presented themselves as opportunities for change; catalysts into a new way of thinking. Once that door has slammed closed, it as if the color goes out of the world and suddenly, where once everything had meaning, now nothing has meaning, and the world is pointless except as it pertains to existing, getting from one day to the next. And you’ll try to find meaning, and sometimes if you are determined you may just be able to pull yourself out of the pointlessness, though it can be extremely difficult (the term “easier for a camel to travel through the eye of a needle” comes to mind).

But even if you miss your window of opportunity – its not a hopeless cause. It can still be done. One can still re-evaluate their life and chose a new direction; it is just much more difficult to do without the Saturn Return catalyst to jump start you. And, if worse comes to worst, there is always the second saturn return – the next window of opportunity that comes between the ages of 56 and 60. Maybe without the building responsibilities, the next time it will be easier.

So – have you been through your own Saturn Return yet? Care to share your stories?
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When I went through mine I did not know what it was but later learned about it. Went through a divorce and a reevaluation of what my life was about and what I was going to do with it.

It brings up your truth right into your face and if you don't see it it will continue to confront you. If noticed many like me see that the truth of who you are is more important than anything and started following truth.

You actually can have 3 saturn returns in your life if you live long enough. The next one is at the end of your 50's to 60. Many people die around then or just get terminally ill if you have avoided truth and have been living a lie. If you are following your truth it is not going to be difficult as the last one. Around the end of your 80's to 90 is the last return.
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" wrote:So – have you been through your own Saturn Return yet? Care to share your stories?[/B]


When I was 28 years old (four years ago) I had a nervous breakdown... I suppose I could sit here and write paragraph after paragraph about what caused it. But I'm not sure it would make much sense to anyone that didn't go through it. It was caused by a lot of things... A job I hated but couldn't get out of... my toxic family, strain on a relationship, too many encounters with negative people who suck all my energy... I just lost it one day. I didn't do anything violent, I just became really depressed.

My depression caused me to think irrationally about things. Suddenly I was afraid of things that never bothered me before, like leaving my house. My thought process was so screwed up... I would think things like "I have to stay home today because really bad things will happen if I go out." And it's not like I thought I would do bad things if I went out... for some reason I just thought that my leaving would cause some chain reaction and because I left my house there might be some huge disaster on the other side of the world.

Idk... I can't explain this level of depression to someone who's never felt it. I didn't eat much because I had no appitite... just getting out of bed every morning was a struggle. It was the worst thing I've ever felt.

And then, about two years ago, I was talking to one of my friends who suffers from depression on a more chronic basis... And I told her my story. She mentioned it might have had something to do with my Saturn Return. I had never heard that term before. She told me for some people it's a really great thing, and for some it's a really devastating thing.

I guess if that was the case, I was doing something really wrong before that...
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I was 28 when I went through mine - it began simultaneously with the birth of my youngest daughter. I remember the morning after I gave birth to her; standing by the window with her in my arms; looking out at the sunrise and feeling everything I'd been built my foundations on begining to slip away. It was odd - I honestly did start to fight it - that slipping sensation - actually sent me into a depression that lasted a solid two years - but I came out of it in time (thank god for meditation!). And it gave me a new focus - like you said, I started following my truth - DISCOVERING my truth.

It wasn't an immediate sort of thing - it was more of a catalyst, it propelled me int an entirely new way of thinking and seeing and being. I opened up to those skills and abilities I'd "tuned out" when I was sixteen and trying very hard to live a normal life. The last 14 years have been like peeling an onion - layer after layer being removed and new truths revealed. Almost a treasure hunt :)

It turned my world upside down - quite literally - broke my workd into a zillion fragments and I had to decide which ones I wanted to replace in my life - and which to leave out. I have much more empathy for Humpty Dumpty now.
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" wrote:I guess if that was the case, I was doing something really wrong before that...


Not necessarily wrong - but you got roped in by the lures put out by society and embraced by the ego; those things that we are told are important, that we are encouraged to lay our foundations on.

I look at the Saturn Return as a good thing really - a shake-up, the chance to re-invent your life in such a way that you can divest yourself of those illusory webs and start living authentically :)
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Following truth when you have lived a lie is quite the ride. A hard ride to say the least. Lots of ups and downs. Had problems with depression also but overall the pain and heartache was worth going through.
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I like your analogy of slipping... For me, it was more like a switch. I tried to explain this to a counselor when I was going through all this and she just didn't get it. It was litterally like some switch was flipped in my head. At the time I felt like a lot of things were turned off... but now looking back I think the switch actually turned more things on.
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i have always felt my own Saturn return looming large in my future. i would like to think that if i have procured certain material attachments by that time, Nov 2013, i would have enough resolve to let them go and keep going deeper. but i have often worried, what if what i am meant to leave behind will be things like the desire to keep going deeper, to make a stronger connection to source, or the attempt to understand this process, or love itself! i imagine to leave behind such things that have held such immense importance to me would be very difficult. they seem to be my own status quo. p.s. the mention of Michael Talbot's book in a thread about Saturn return was a huge synchronicity for me. thank you and Namaste.
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" wrote:I like your analogy of slipping... For me, it was more like a switch. I tried to explain this to a counselor when I was going through all this and she just didn't get it. It was litterally like some switch was flipped in my head. At the time I felt like a lot of things were turned [b:2arcy2pw]off...[/b:2arcy2pw] but now looking back I think the switch actually turned more things [b:2arcy2pw]on. [/b:2arcy2pw]


yes yes yes! I've used that expression to people to explain it. The switch. Like a switch was flipped in my head - when the switch was flipped all those things that didn't really matter began slipping away :)

Does that make sense? Wakes you up to what is really important. What really matters.
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" wrote:Following truth when you have lived a lie is quite the ride. A hard ride to say the least. Lots of ups and downs. Had problems with depression also but overall the pain and heartache was worth going through.


The funny thing is - fourteen years later I'm STILL feeling reverberations from that four-year timespan. I wouldn't trade it though - the insight that has come out of letting go of those things that I used to think were so important....eh, it's definitely worth it.
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" wrote:i have always felt my own Saturn return looming large in my future. i would like to think that if i have procured certain material attachments by that time, Nov 2013, i would have enough resolve to let them go and keep going deeper. but i have often worried, what if what i am meant to leave behind will be things like the desire to keep going deeper, to make a stronger connection to source, or the attempt to understand this process, or love itself! i imagine to leave behind such things that have held such immense importance to me would be very difficult. they seem to be my own status quo. p.s. the mention of Michael Talbot's book in a thread about Saturn return was a huge synchronicity for me. thank you and Namaste.


I'll tell you - it's not an easy process. Not in the least. But at least if you are aware of its approach you can prepare yourself; mentally at least. It's a little disconcerting to have it hit you broadside without a clue as to what the hell is happening. At least you'll have a context. :)
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Everything turned inside out for me.
Thats when I started down the path of conspiracy theories, and eventually started learning about human potential.
Started meditating and doing breathwork.
Thats the year some apparition came into my room and tried to pull me out of my body.
I just turned 31 and I am STILL in the midst of this nonsense.
Thats when my kundalini surges really started too.

[shakes head]


Definitly something to it, in fact I would suggest the "mid-life crisis" is the norms way of addressing this phenomenon without having to think about it very much.
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It is very different than a mid-life crisis. That usually happens around 40-50.

I would totally agree that the saturn return is the spiritual part of yourself trying to make itself known to you.
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I always thought mid-life was early thirties, to mid thirties, because the average life span is barely seventy years.

Just a loose thought making a connection anyways.









FUCKING SATURN.
It keeps coming up lately...


Thats all for now peeps.
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You may both be right actually.

In fact - what we call the first Saturn Return may be the FIRST mid-life crises, and what we call the mid-life crises (rougly age 56) may be the SECOND Saturn Return.

Just a thought :)
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This black cube is a remnant of the ancient worship of El. Semitic civilizations referred to the god Saturn as “El”. The supreme deity was represented by a black cube. We can find instances of the cube across the world. You might not know it, but the entire world has been worshiping Saturn for thousands of years. The cult has never stopped and its rites are still present to this day. Saturn, dubbed the “Lord of the Rings”, is the reason why we exchange rings at weddings or put halos on the heads of godly people. This article exposes the attributes of the god Saturn and the perpetuation of his cult through in pop culture.

Since ancient times, sages gazed at the stars, admiring their heavenly glow and attributing them godly powers, based on their effect on humans. Before the Great Flood, Saturn was regarded by all mankind as the supreme god and ruler of the kings. Occult researchers affirm that Saturn ruled the kingdom of Atlantis and became the divine ancestor of all earthly patriarchs and kings. The cult has been perpetuated through numerous gods during Antiquity:

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Ancient Hebrews represented Saturn with the six pointed star, which later became the Star of David (it also had many other esoteric meanings). The symbol is still found on Israel’s flag.

there is a one other black cube, any connections?
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[all copied from a forum post on disclose.tv]
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Schools, Courts, Churches, and the Cult of Saturn

“When you graduate from high school you come out processionally with a black robe, which is black for Saffron, the God of the Hebrews, requiring that you wear the square mortarboard on top of your head.



The square mortarboards are, of course, used by the Freemasons for their plaster, so that is why you wear a square mortarboard when you graduate, ultimately becoming an Alumni. It all has to do with Freemasonry; it all has to do with the control of education in this country.”

Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”

First you pay out your “tuition” to get into “universe”ity where they strip you of your Intuition and give you an Indoctrination.



Then you receive a “MaStars” Masonic “degree,” while wearing a Masonic mortar board cap and Cult of Saturn black robes to become an Alumni/Illumini. Graduation means to increment or retard progress.



As Jordan Maxwell says, “the true meaning of Graduation is gradual indoctrination.”



Indeed.



Stick a bunch of 5 year olds in a room full of 5year olds for a year, then a bunch of 6year olds with 6year olds and so on for 20 years, until you’re so indoctrinated they give you a doctorate

“The syllables are Mafor measure and Storfor Star. ‘measurer of the stars,’ namely an astrologer. Children are still given a star today for successful application to their studies. When we matriculate from a university, we are given a ‘Master’s Degree.’



This is purely sabean. Degrees are part of the cycle of the zodiac. One was given a ‘degree,’ to show that they, like the sun they were progeny of, had ascended to an exalted place. Once you had mastered the stars you were then quite literally a MASTER.”

Michael Tsarion, “Astrotheology and Sidereal Mythology”

Judges and Roman Catholic priests also traditionally wear/wore black robes.



Judges have a Masonic hammer or gavel which they hit to declare the word of Law. The idea of law comes from the biblical ten stone commandments and so it is said that you “break” the law. Judges always sit on a three tier high platform representing the first three blue degrees of freemasonry.



The same tritier platform is found at Congress, and the altar in most Catholic and Protestant churches is three tiers high. That’s also why you get/give someone the “third degree” related to the third degree of Masonry where the initiate is asked a series of probing questions he must answer correctly in order to become a Master Mason.



There is usually a gate around church altars just as there are gates with swinging doors in every courtroom. The congregations at church all stand up to recognize the priest, just as all rise when the judge walks in.



Then the judge takes a “recess” because he is in “court” playing a game of “ten”nis (commandments), with lawyers who play the dialectic protagonist/antagonist game, bouncing the advantage into each other’s court. In the courtroom witnesses must place their hand on the old/new “testament” before giving their “testimony,” just as a priest’s sermon is often called testimony (also notice “mon” from “moon” in testimony and sermon).



As a witness swears in, one hand is placed on the bible while the other is held up; In church, when parishioners feel the holy spirit, often during song, they will hold one or both hands up to praise the lord.

“Then when you get further into Saturn, you begin to understand that his color is black, that he was a God of one of the many different Semitic tribes, or groups, and one of his symbols was a square. Then you get into the square black mortarboard that the university or high school students wear when they graduate.



It is a square on his head, and it is usually black. The color of Saturn, one of the ancient Hebrew Gods. This is the same black used on the robe the judge wears when he is going to throw you in jail. Because the black represents Saturn. Saturn is the old Semitic God.

That is why churches and courtrooms look the same today, because when you go into churches you sit out here with the poor folks in the chairs out here in the pews, but you cannot go up onto the lifted higher elevation, you can't go inside the gate, you can't go inside the little doors, only the priest can go inside there and officiate for you.



You stay on the outside with the poor folks. The altar is always raised at least three tiers, because in Egypt that was the way it was always done.



The altar was always raised so the people could see the representative of God dressed in black. The priest comes out on the altar dressed in black, and he is officiating for you, he is the mediator between you and God. That is the same thing that happens in the courtroom, you walk in and you are part of the poor folks sitting out here in the audience, and here is the fence, or gate, that separates you.



The attorneys can go inside the gate and they are your mouthpiece, to go talk to ‘God’ for you and see if they can get you off, and the lawyers will be the mediator between ‘God,’ or the ‘judge’ who judges you, and man. That is where all of this comes from in our society today.”

Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”

Sheriff in the ancient Egyptian was a lawgiver and his badge was always a six pointed star which is another symbol of Saturn.



US Sheriffs in the wild west up to today still wear the six pointed star. It is interesting that Saturn’s symbol is the six pointed star, Saturn in the 6th planet from the sun, Saturnday is the 6th day of the week, and now NASA is receiving images of “the Saturn Hexagram” (6 sided) atmospheric formation at Saturn’s poles.



The 6th chakra of the human energy system is the 3rd eye/pineal gland (6, 3 times = 666). When your 3rd eye chakra opens you develop your 6th sense of intuition and spirituality. From a consciousness perspective, the 6th sense, your intuitions/hunches, are messengers of god, your guardian angels.



Isn’t it interesting that angels have haloes/rings around their heads and Saturn is the only planet with a halo/ring around it?

“That is why today, when you get married, you get married before God. And the symbol of that God is the ring that is put on each other's fingers. The ring of Saturn. In the marriage phrases, one also begins to see what that has to do with Saturn.



So when you get married, you get married with a ring and the symbol of that God is the ring, the ring of Saturn. You're wearing God's ring.



And the yarmulke was the round ring that you wear on your head, for Saturn your God. Even in the middle ages, in the temples, Catholic monks would shave their heads in a round circle, and the Hebrews, instead of doing that, would wear the yarmulke. But it all had to do with the round rings of Saturn.”

Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”



“The ancient name of Saturn was, as mentioned, EL. It is the reason why those that were chosen by EL, were called Elites. In fact the words, Elect, Elder, Elevated, Elohim, Temple, Circle, Gospel, Apostle, Disciple, Evangelists, etc., all derive from the Cult of EL.



Angels are messengers of god. But god was EL, which is why we have the names of the Archangels bearing the ‘el,’ suffix Raphael, Michael, Uriel, Gabriel, etc,.”

Michael Tsarion, “Astrotheology and Sidereal Mythology”

“The plural term Elohim appears over 2500 times in the Old Testament but is falsely translated in most versions. This fact of plurality explains why in Genesis ‘Gods’ said, ‘Let us make man in our image.’



As stated, Elohim refers to both ‘gods’ and ‘goddesses,’ and its singular form, El, served as a prefix or suffix to names of gods, people and places, whence EmmanuEl, GabriEl, BethEl, etc. Even ‘Satan’ was one of the Elohim.”

Acharya S., “The Christ Conspiracy” (67)



The gods of ELohim are angELs, the messengers of god.



When witches cast a speEL, they put the “Hex” (6) on someone, and when chefs deep fry something, they “Deep 6” it. It is the ELites who run the world today. Elite comes from the “IsraElites” which came from the Egyptian worship of the Moon (Isis), the Sun, (Ra), and Saturn (Elohim), hence IsRaEl.

Jews and Muslims alike worship a huge black cube/box called Kabba at Mecca. Their god YHWH is known as the “Tetragramaton” meaning their 4 letter (4 sided?) God. The “Kabballah” of Jewish mysticism/Masonry comes from KabbaAllah or “CubeGod” around which people gather and ceremonially walk in circles.



Thus it can be said they are “circling the square.” Masons are also constantly referring to “circling the square” and “squaring the circle.”



For instance, this is why a “boxing” match is fought for “rounds” in the “ring” but it is actually a 4 sided square arena with corners.

The Freemasonic G (Geometry/God) symbol within a compass and T-square symbolizes this as well. Just as people circle around their Cube-God Kabba, so the Masons use a compass/square around their “G” God/Geometry.

In Islamic tradition, the “Rock” is where Muhammad ascended to Heaven accompanied by the angel Gabriel. The Dome of the “Rock” was built in the 600 AD era and was won back by the Israelites on 06/07/67 after the “6 day war.” The Dome’s outer walls measure 60 (6x10) feet wide and 36 (6x6) feet high.



The Knights Templar claimed the Dome of the Rock was the site of the Temple of Solomon and set up their “Templum Domini” adjacent to it during the 12th century.

“Saturn is an important key to understanding the long heritage this conspiracy has back to antiquity. The city of Rome was originally known as Saturnia or City of Saturn. The Roman Catholic church retains much of the Saturn worship in its ritual. Saturn also relates to Lucifer. In various occult dictionaries Saturn is associated with evil. Saturn was important to the religion of Mithra, and also the Druids.”

–Fritz Springmeier, “Bloodlines of the Illuminati”

Rome was known to the “Romans” as Saturnia, not Rome, and Saturn was one of their gods.



Black is both Saturn’s color and Satan’s color. The black holy bible tells us Satan is 666. Saturn is the 6th planet, its symbol is a 6pointed star, it supposedly has hexagon weather formations, and Saturnday the 6th day, is Ozzy Osbourne’s “Black Sabbath.”



Also highlighting this theme, the Rolling “Stones” sang Paint it Black, Paint it Blue, Blue Turns to Grey, Black Angel, XXX and Sympathy for the Devil.



A bruise is black and blue; bruise like the He“brews” whose longstanding secret societies are orchestrating this blue/black agenda. The 6th chakra, the pineal gland, the 3rd eye (all the same thing) is usually represented with the color blue, but they seem intent on Painting it Black.



The Stones’ lyrics go,

“I see a red door and I want it painted black, no colors anymore I want them to turn black. No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue … I want them to turn black.”

When you’re hit you get a black eye (supposedly, though the bruise is usually other colors), but the real “black eye” is your 3rd eye; The chakra which should be colored blue, but they have changed to black. This most important organ has in recent centuries shrunk in size from about the size of a quarter, to the size of a pea.



The Black Eyed Peas ironically sing a song called Third Eye with lyrics like,

“I got three eyes, one look from the left side, the other from the right side, got one eye on the inside, and I can see you outside, plottin’ to come in.”

Also in the same song,

“If Bush is Pinocchio, who the hell is Gepetto? Beware of Gepetto. I could point out their behavior to keep y’immune from the poisonous flavor, but once you’re caught I can’t save ya, they’ll manipulate your mind so you enjoy danger.”

The band Third Eye Blind has a song called Eye Conqueror.

[once again copied from disclose.tv, I just thought this was all very interesting, as I had recently been talking about saturn with someone, then came across old posts pertaining to it from a few years ago, over at disclose, and then the thread this stuff came from popped up, and then THIS one popped up, all in the past two days...]

FUCKINGSATURN?!?!?!
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lolol synchronicity. The first time I heard of Saturn return was last week when rabana spoke of it. I didn't know what it was, so I googled it. As I read it, I lamented. "Why couldn't I have known about this then? If I would have known the name of the street I would have known better which way to turn! But lol I'll catch it on the flip side!
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i think i'm in the midde of it, i feel very confused, i think a lot about my past, all my life, with my familly history, and how we have rised free minded, where it has lead me to, what am i doing here, why are we exiled , why i hate the society, why free mason were stalking my gran father, why there are some much criminals around me, i feel like in son of anarchy but without the father's book and i need to figure it all by myself, the only person i can speak abit about it who understand is my sister, there is really few info about this on the internet, and nobody really know about it, and what happened really during the WW2, and why are all the politicians and school always lying on history, so much mysteries, maybe i need to go and see some masons someday who may know more about all this :p i'd really like to know what this anarchy is about, the intelectual revolution, and self developement, self responsability, auto gestion, to be able to have society without governements , in a way i'm sure it is close to masonery in many aspects ! and lot of things has been wrote about this, or not that much things, but still i'd like to know what it was all about without entering too much in the terrorist part lol

but i came to conclusion tonigth:

i hate society
i'm ill
i'm tired
it is dark
it is cold
i want my mummy x)

lol

(in the same time it why xoxos he is bugging me with his french stuff cause i wish i knew more about france and this comedy but unfortatly i don't really understand anything about all those nationality and ppl fighting each other for their nation etc but well :P)
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