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Old 12-30-2007, 12:55 AM
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You are now being prepared, dear ones, to learn the dynamics of how you will be functioning in the fourth and fifth dimension. In the higher realms, we no longer function so much as separate individuals. All we do is done more at group level, so to speak. It is no longer so much "I did this and I did that". It is more like "we did this and we did that" as a group, together. This is your next step, beloveds, to learn to function as group awareness, in total oneness, love and harmony, while retaining your individuality as a soul.

In the fifth dimension you create instantly by your thoughts. If your thoughts and feelings are not loving and harmonious at all time, you will be creating havoc in that dimension, and know that it simply will not be tolerated. If this happens, you will be sent back to the fourth or third dimension once again, whatever will be the case, until you learn to control your thoughts and feelings, and master the full curriculum of those dimensions.


This should give you a clue as to why so many of you are still here in the third dimension. Some of you are here physically on Earth right now because you have volunteered to come and help the Earth during Her transition, while others are still here because they have not yet applied themselves enough to master the curriculum of Earth to a sufficient degree to qualified to move on to the next level.

The fourth dimension is the place where the last stage of learning of this mastery will take place for many of you in the next 10 to 12 years ahead. The sooner you are able to master your thoughts and feelings and open your hearts to unconditional love, the sooner you will be able to personally climb this spiritual ladder, as you yearn to move on to the higher realms of those dimensions. Each one of the higher dimensions has seven levels of learning and initiation; each level will have to be mastered before moving on to the next. This means that as souls, some of you will make it to the fifth dimension sooner, while others will linger on for a very long time. It is all a question of the choices you are making in the every now moments of your daily life.

Learning group dynamics and learning to master group work with set intentions and total harmony and co-operation with each other now, while still on the third level, will give you a head-start in your near cosmic future. Anyone trying to create separation because of human opinions, right or wrong, it does not matter, may very well be creating for themselves a situation that will cause them to be held back, at least temporarily, in their climb to the top. This principle applies to all groups, not only to spiritual groups.

By those words, I just cracked open the door, beloved ones, to give you a glimpse of part of the curriculum you will have to learn and master while transitioning into the fourth dimension, on your way to the fifth. Although the Earth is scheduled to ascend to the fifth dimension by 2012 by your present way of calculating time, it could happen a bit sooner. It does not mean that all of humanity will follow immediately and automatically. Those who have not mastered the curriculum on all levels of the third and fourth dimension will be held back until they do, or will have to reincarnate on another third dimensional Earth situated in a parallel universe. There will be several optional places to go to for those souls who are not choosing to move on at this time, and for those who will not qualify to make it into the ascension spiral. Many souls from Earth have already been incarnating on those optional places in the past 20 years.

There is a misconception among many people on Earth that when the planet ascends to the fifth dimension, all of humanity will ascend with Her "unconditionally". Many erroneously think that they will ride the wave of ascension with Mother Earth on an automatic pilot without sufficient preparations, without dealing with their psychological and emotional issues, and without having to walk the path of initiation that everyone else has to master. Although the opportunity for ascension is being offered to everyone on Earth "unconditionally" at this time, none can skip the various steps to get there. None will make it to the top without first getting rid of their human baggage and past each level of initiation that takes you to this glorious goal.

Granted that the path of initiation has never been made to easy, the ascension doors have never been opened so wide, the Earth has never received so much assistance, and you, beloveds, have never received so much grace. The grace that is offered to you at this time is of a magnitude so great that only in your cosmic future will you be able to understand the full impact of it. This grace of such great compassion that is offered now to humanity does not mean that the path of initiation is scrambled. There is no short cut to this ascension door; all initiations will have to be mastered one by one. The grace that is offered on the planet now, and in the months and years to come, will soften your path and will shorten your walk. How much shorter will your walk be? It will be different for each one according to their ability and willingness to open their heart to Unconditional Love and their application of the Laws of Life.

Because abuse of power and distortions of divine principles by governments and religious leaders, and in practically all walks of life, have been so rampant on Earth for so very long, many of you live with a passionate desire to experience freedom from control and manipulation, from application of a distorted system of hierar-chy. A great majority of you is now completely turned off to the idea of hierarchy of any kind, even spiritual hierarchy. Because your hearts are still in pain over this long-term abuse, it is very understandable from our viewpoint.

Nevertheless, on the higher realms, a system of spiritual hierarchy does exists, and it is this very system that keeps the Universe and all of God's creation functioning in divine order. Your denial of it, your refusal to admit that hierarchy exits on the higher realms will not change it. I desire to remind you that on the higher realms, we function with a system of hierarchy based "only on pure Love" and for the greatest good of all; and this is most wondrous, dear ones.

In the time to come, this system of hierarchy will be implemented on Earth as well; it simply cannot be otherwise. It will be benevolent and will be based on Love and Divine principles. The ones that will rule, will rule only because of their divine rights to rule. The level of spiritual attainment, love and mastery they have attained will earn these rights. A system of hierarchy based on divine principles is not designed to deprive you of your powers by all means. On the contrary, it will serve to enhance your divinity and your powers to great heights.

I ask you to let go of your misconceptions and fears concerning spiritual hierarchy. We perceive that many lightworkers are almost making vows to reject any kind of authority. On the higher dimensions, all of us, including you, and who you are on the other side of the veil, all of creation, from the tiniest insect to the highest level of the Godhead functions on a system of hierarchy. When you move to your next level, you will find that you will be working and studying in groups. Each group is always sponsored by a member of a higher echelon on the ladder of evolution. This does not mean that one is superior to the other. Ultimately all is one, and none is better than the other. It simply means that one has attained sooner than you what you are striving for, and is willing to be your mentor in attaining your goals.

On the same token, as you take classes and work under those who have attained sooner than you did, you will also be responsible to be in a position of hierarchy or mentor for a certain group of souls who have not yet attained the same level you have, and it will be with great joy and a feeling of fulfillment that you will work with them. The ladder of evolution and attainment is earned through "service" to life. This is one of the mysteries of this great chain on Life. This is why we are always so willing and in joy to be of assistance to all of you.

There is what you call "free will" on the higher dimensions. There is also a greater sense of freedom than experienced on Earth, yes. But know that there is no free will or liberty when it comes to the freedom of misusing energy with negativity as it has been permitted to create and experience on Earth for so very long. I ask you, dear ones, to start practicing now what is required to attain your mastery. The payoff is very much worth it.

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are u serious?
Oh, I think he is serious and also feel that he is on the correct path. Some of us are going to move forward into greater awareness and some of us just will not get it. Those that do not get it will stay behind and start again. That is said to be the way it has always been by some. We all have free will and choice as to where we place or spend our energy. The Age of Aquarius has meaning and brings change the individual gives way to the group. Higher awareness from the individual personality into the soul or what sometimes is called a soul integrated personality but that and all I have here written is but a humble opinion for one to accept or reject that choice is yours. Much love and light to all things in all places.

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A whole lot of truth to me..it mirrors my process..and is urging those still feeding their negativity to take a step back and start breaking it down
Two tools that have been vital to me: The Power of Now, Ekhart Tolle, and Heart meditation/reiki tummo...every single moment is an opportunity to grow..the love we are seeking is in and around us constantly, find a way of tapping into it

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I'll remain a skeptic. I've seen nothing to suggest these people aren't simply piggy backing on true paths, and true prophesies. Show me something new to alter my perception. give me an answer, or at least a question. And while they say that these "dimensions" aren't that one person is better then another it is setting up a student teacher relationship where authority is granted. I think spiritual advice should ring true no matter how involved you are in a particular set of beliefs, or what "dimension" you are in.

I don't know that these people are wrong, but I certainly don't know that they are right. It certainly isn't simple like Buddhism. If you understand the power of suggestibility it's not hard to understand how a 'teacher' could hold the 'next dimension' over the heads of his students. After an amount of trust has been built I could see how it would be merely a matter of the teacher telling the student they have ascended.

To let someone else define your god is to let them into your soul. Not necessarily a bad thing, but you should be cautious as hell. Be sure it's simply not another hole...
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Oh, I think he is serious and also feel that he is on the correct path. Some of us are going to move forward into greater awareness and some of us just will not get it. Those that do not get it will stay behind and start again. That is said to be the way it has always been by some. We all have free will and choice as to where we place or spend our energy. The Age of Aquarius has meaning and brings change the individual gives way to the group. Higher awareness from the individual personality into the soul or what sometimes is called a soul integrated personality but that and all I have here written is but a humble opinion for one to accept or reject that choice is yours. Much love and light to all things in all places.

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That's the thing with integrity.. and the differences in 3d and 4d.

It has nothing to do with "suggestability", persay. Just because you have an otherworldly mentor doesn't mean they are going to be giving you religion and a view of god. Why would there be such a thing as duality if that was the case? In your scenario, are you suggesting that duality was put into place to GIVE us an idea of god?

I propose exactly the opposite.. duality, in this case, was put into place so we must find our own version of god. Some people find it in religion, some in spirituality, some in themselves.

I kind of look at it this way. Guides are fairly well known to have been incarnates who ascended past that stage. They are our helpers, our mentors. They do not get in our face. Sometimes we are ready for something, sometimes we aren't. It could be at soul level, or it could be at incarnate level. They help us and guide us to what is right and appropriate for us at that time. Why should others helping us be any different? I'm not aware of my guides telling me who god is..

I hope this can be some food for thought.
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maybe. I'm simply asking you to not know that they are right. maybe I'm just paranoid.
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Faith is a hard thing to build. Noone said don't question them.. but you have to believe in them. I still struggle with "surrendering" to spirit.. but I think that's also a guy thing.
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I am in internal debate how much hierchy there is in Heaven. Christ said that in Heaven there is "neither marriage nor status". That makes sense for there is no material wealth and we are spirit.
Then of course the angels and such point to a hierchy.

PsychoActiveSoul, have you ever read of C.S Lewis' theological works? That might help you see deity if you are open to it.
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yes yes yes, i agree =) Juice!
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why do you have to believe in them?
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...there is no duality not here not in the realm of divine conciuosness, that's just a way to get peolpe to follow ...

it amazes me how many are always talking in ways of duality and then giving a big "oneness" hug......makes me speechless


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I guess I simply see too many metaphors, and not enough interpretation. everything is very subjective.
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Duality is a concept, not a way of life. It's the process of REALLY understanding duality to feel oneness. It does not mean things are separate, quite the contrary. Duality is something we are born into.. we believe we are separate from god, separate from the tree, from everything. We believe there is heaven and there is earth. It applies to a lot of things.

To overcome duality is to understand that we are NOT separate from these things. A somewhat-decent summary from wikipedia:
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Alternatively, dualism can mean the tendency of humans to perceive and understand the world as being divided into two overarching categories. In this sense, it is dualistic when one perceives a tree as a thing separate from everything surrounding it, or when one perceives a "self" that is distinct from the rest of the world. In mystic traditions such as Zen, a key to enlightenment is "transcending" this sort of dualistic thinking, without merely substituting dualism with monism or pluralism.
It's kind of more complicated than that.. and it applies on a lot of levels. I guess this isn't really the thread for it, but you know..

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