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Albert Pike and Aleister Crowely gave Lucifer(Adam) a new meaning...from light bringer,the morning star,The greatest creation Lucifer=mankind,which is how Lucifer was thrown out of heaven because we r Lucifer(Gods greatest creation) and we chose to search outside of ourselves, outside of heaven bec...

LOL... Shriners are not the fallen ones. They are basically the "fun" branch of Masonry. Their order is less about esotericism and more about charity and putting on events. Good bunch of old blokes but they don't have any secret knowledge beyond that given to most Masons.

Very cool! The square & compass have been interpreted as masculine and feminine symbols, with the "G" in the middle standing for Generation. They can also be interpreted as symbolizing matter and spirit respectively.

Beelzebul was a Babylonian god - the "lord of the flies." The demons Jesus cast out were not Luciferian. They would be recognized as mental illness in many cases today. In Gnosticism, they would be viewed as archons - lesser spirits of matter.

<t>Lucifer is a metaphor in my view, not a literal being. He is also prometheus, Jesus, etc. Clear Blue, you are correct that the Jews did not associate the snake with Lucifer or satan - this is a later Christian view from the Book of Revelation.<br/> <br/> John 3:14 - Just as Moses lifted up the sn...

<t>You already know what the 'truth' is. Why do you need a talking head (so named for the dismembered head of John the Baptist, who may still speak and be worth listening to, other talking heads notwithstanding) to help you discern truth? If you need a guide or friend, there are others who have walk...

Lucifer the Savior (Lucifer as Jesus) - A Gnostic Secret

<t>Many in the Christian traditions view Lucifer as "the devil." However, many of the early gnostic sects held just the opposite view. According to many gnostic schools, the god worshiped by Jews and Christians (and later Muslims) is in fact a false, blinded and ignorant being that vainly thinks its...

<t>On the picture "Gate of the Aspirant," he writes:<br/> <br/> The "Illuminati" is a modern name for a particular group of people that was actually coined by a German named Adam Weishaupt in the 18th century. I use the term here because people relate to it through popular culture. If I shared the a...

<t>Some gnostics would argue that Lucifer is the hero of the story, and Adonai is the villain. Recall that in the Garden of Eden, Lucifer basically sacrificed himself to enlighten humanity to their spiritual origins, while the biblical deity tried to keep them ignorant and in chains. It's all a matt...

<t>Charity, one mystic I know defined the difference between magic and mysticism this way - "mysticism is the exploration of God, where magic is the exploitation of God." While it would seem illogical to believe God can be "exploited," I understand his point and it sounds similar to what you're sayi...

<r>[QUOTE=sean keyes;840599]I get ya, lol<br/> <br/> It looks like the Deathstar from star wars<br/> <br/> I bet earth vedder will fly his ship outta that hole <br/> <br/> Mind you it has a cretain ring to it[/QUOTE]<br/> <br/> Yes, dear readers. This is the kind of pothead conversations the enlight...

<r>[QUOTE=lillies1978;840847]I believe in globalization, I believe in connecting people around the world. Business is the way to go cause humans don't do anything without incentive; that has nothing to do with the church, the church just made use of that fact. Now you may shoot me cause I won't stop...

<t>[QUOTE=Will;845368]What are you talking about?<br/> <br/> Everybody needs to be tolarent of other people's beliefs, non-christians (like me) need to be tolerant of christians and vice versa.<br/> [/QUOTE]<br/> <br/> I absolutely disagree. "Tolerance" is a modern fiction for the intellectually laz...

<r>Yes. It's basically a club for potheads. I have been on this forum for a while now and originally approached it with an open mind; however, I soon learned that there was no objective test to determine who is or is not an "indigo" - it's simply a subjective experience. If you feel alienated and mi...

<t>The Illuminati is composed of people of all races and nations. There is no "Arab" or "German" Illuminati. One thing many do not realize is that the Illuminati does not meet at any one designated place, exchange secret handshakes and plot to take over the world. We are a spiritual brotherhood oper...

My friend Illuminati speaks truth as always. It's good to read your words again, brother. Spartacus' revolution lives on. :)

<r>Why does everything think they were a priestess in Atlantis or a Pharaoh in a past life? Wasn't anyone Joe the Plumber? Who swept the palace floors for Atan-Ra?<br/> <br/> Anywho, I had an epic dream about being a cowboy that I believe was a past life. It was the first incidence that convinced me...

<r>[QUOTE=Kelly Crawford;825076]It's not that bad, I guess. Anyways, darkness doesn't exist. It only happens because of the absence of light. <E>:)</E>[/QUOTE]<br/> <br/> But another perspective is that light is temporary. Every light will ultimately fade, whether it's a lightbulb or the sun. In the...

<r>Part of the legend is that there was a rebellious race on this planet (similar to the fallen angels in Christian literature) that caused the planet to be destroyed. A few of these came to Earth, I believe, according to the story. <br/> <br/> I love that sort of thing, because some of us are still...

Funny. I just encountered the story about Maldek in a book I'm reading, called "Climb Your Highest Mountain." Not sure what I think of it.

To the herd, the first creature to walk on two legs with a narcissist and a sociopath....

<t>[QUOTE=AmentiHall;780958]You would be correct in your intuition amethyst.<br/> <br/> The very definition of someone who is "fallen" is not at all to me...what traditional meaning. But rather the a slightly mechanical concept that is, that that particular entity has become "disconnected" from thei...

<t>[QUOTE=Vivi;780971]Thank you for all the information. A few weeks ago while talking to a friend, I shared with her how I have never felt home here on earth,the best way to describe it is that I'm here for some reason but don't belong here. It sounds crazy I know. She listened to me tell her a lit...

<r>[QUOTE=barelittlefeet;760037]Shadow spirits? Could this explain the black figure i saw walk across a parking lot one night while i was walking home from a friends house? I saw it plain as day, it had a hat on, like a top hat and it just walked across the parking lot nonchalant & i didn't catc...

Polarization - Making a Choice Between Left and Right Hand Paths

<t>I read an article a while back on darkworkers and lightworkers that dealt with the subject of "polarization" - the idea of choosing one side or the other for maximum power - that suggested that most people remain in the middle and so never really excel in either direction. This was basically summ...

So that I can ask them to kick your arse, Azure Prince.

TMT, yes, you are correct. I have done this to an extent, but I am still at a very low vibration and would be all but useless to their purposes right now.

<t>[QUOTE=kat1822;773317]Thank you for your insight. Its nice to hear the other side of the story.<br/> Masonry sounds good. Is there a way I can be a part of it?<br/> Note I'm not being sardonic or anything, I'm being serious[/QUOTE]<br/> <br/> Well, that was certainly a quick change of mind. I wou...

You new agers don't need to be thrown off track... you're already heading straight off the spiritual rails.

There's a lot of fear for all that is unknown There's a lot of romance here that isn't shown Seeing things that are not there Hearing words they never said Misinformed into the twilight zone But it really takes two For these tricks being played upon you You can get out of this conspiracy You can be ...

What some people don't understand is that this is not about religion. Additionally, it is not about using rationality. I used to be the harshest, most critical person. I discovered philosophy, and I turned agnostic. I remain agnostic, to other people. I have yet to find a convincing argument for or...

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