Re: Illusion

#101
So...

To move on, we find now that sub atomic particles, according to the latest press release from LHC, are getting even smaller, and these seem too be the precursors to the Higgs Boson. Gravity has mass but, in between energy and the application of electromagnetism to make a particle of the contrivance to have the type of mass that is gravitational, there seem to be other particles that are weak in their construction.

It appears that these particles get weaker as they get smaller, back to the raw state of energy without mass.

This is great news. The more complicated this gets, the more it makes sense. The more elegant it becomes.

The point I was going to make in the previous post was that our existence is so rare and remote in probability- taking into account the element of reasoning that I apply to these words- that we enter into the possibility of being at or as close to as possible,
zero.
You and I are not here.
Its truly an illusion.
So, when you put your non existent head under non existent bus, you will in fact be lying on a nice beach in Brazil, waiting for your next fruity drink.
Or not.

The fact that CHOICE is real, and not an illusion, means that the past. present and future is one and the same in a sure process.
Or not.

How can an experiment be defined to decide once and for all if the future is already written, and the past is prone to the sublties of change in mismanagement?

The lottery seems to be good idea. It hasnt happened yet. The draw always produces its defined winning numbers, and sometimes someone wins, more than one person wins, or no one wins. No one today knows what the draw will result before time.
You can ask Schrodinger's cat, Roger, to make the draw instead of the computer.
If he was there, the draw would be made when you looked. If he wasnt there, the draw would be made when you looked.
Just giving the cat the draw to make would mean there would be a draw result.
When you looked.

The point is, that whatever happens, we are here and life and death are real as well as everything else.
Its not an illusion. I know that because I can remember not being here before I was born, is missing.
There is a lot of other stuff that is outside; but dont talk to me about reincarnation. The simple maths is not acceptable to anyone with a hoop and stick. Its much more of what I like to define carefully as
total b*llocks.
But what do I know?
Its probably very real, if you want it to be and all is perfect and super.
Dont ask me. I go round having long and complex conversations with trees. trees. and cats. and dogs.
I had a four day long debate about wet wipes with an elderberry bush some years back.
It won.
The issue is that in a spherical universe and we are somewhere inside of it,
where spacetime is spinning as well as expanding, in a rotation of universal proportion, (bent I think they call it),
The cat is or is not there, and we choose to look for it or not look for it, there or not there.
We are moving.
doing and not doing.
Given that there are 7 billion people here already, I dont think any inspector would be carefully checking each one of us at a time, to see if we were looking or not looking for the cat today.
The lottery has only one winning number.
All the others dont seem quite the occasion.
On digit off here and there... just one digit.
is the same and all of the losing numbers not being right.
The issue is
That
We are the winning number in our own lottery.
The certainty is overwhelming.
100%.
In a circle of probability.
Next to zero.
You could not have said that 10 million years ago.
or last week.

The Descartes reasoning, of being here when you are.
So, you get to choose if you want to look in the box for the cat sometime.
There is only one is.
And a very large number of is nots.
The lottery winning number.

There is always one winning number, even if no one has it on the day.
who makes the lottery for us? The cat?
Chance?
Consequence?
When it comes to the moment,
with choice and reasoning at the fore
we remove the genetic element
as we are here now
and it is us who define our choices
and us
who define our own lotteries.

This makes it a racing certainty after passing the post.
looking back.
after the event.
winning the invisible race.

what else could it mean?
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Re: Illusion

#102
Hello 😇
I am everything and i am nothing.
I am not a scholar i write from experiences. My illusion what my energy has experienced as a sentient being.
I have written about reflecting animal, plant, human and spirit. There is no choice or free will i just reflect the energy around me. Like a void or a candle in the wind 😇
I reflect love and i reflect hate in equal measure. I am like water i take the shape of the vessel.
I have seen this whole universe disappear.

I would ask who am i? What am i?
That is my illusion and it changes like the wind depending on what i reflect. 😇
LOve Cheeneka x

Re: Illusion

#105
Your comment is most apt i think.
the illusion is one of the infinity of self reflections.
in such a reflection
it becomes improbable to see which if any one is real.
therefore what is outside is also inside
and i sense that in my state
the oneness is defined as it own reality
and rises out from the illusion on its own wings.
in other words
the reality becomes what we wish it to be.

the danger is to be in control
as many, so many fail and go forwards alone in some confusion
your meadow for me is allegorical in fact.
Roger of course knows differently
for me, the way is to make the meadow real
but
is this enough?
is this a superb prison?
is it enough to call on a real place, be it modest?
or is there more out there, and your meadow is one step to something more?
do we have the opportunity to grow after we leave here or will that be defined as our passing lot?
who makes those rules?
if we do, then passing is a focus and we can still develop and be free to exercise sentient choices.
hard to deny after all we have seen and done, yes?
so the action of passing becomes a portal to go through
and here i am
at the way of the kiloclimbs
in the valley of the damned
keeping away those dusters
who predate on those who pass that way or this way as they muster to the light beyond.

but this is a old step and i have moved well on
from there to be as one friend refers to me
gandalph the white...lol
today i have realized to be as never before, so at peace
so in tune
and yet for me
this is just a further step on my journey.
i have been waiting for your post that you made now.
i see your way to be a new step for you
that may include or not include your meadow, but also be something more.
try not to deny your progress, i feel.
when we turn back and look down our mountain of our journey
and recall those signposts that were along the way
as memories that came to us then, here and there
small and modest;]
a sight of a hand
a view from a window
a feeling
the wind in certain trees
moments now we didnt even consider at their times.
imprints from before
like labels on old records that mean something only to us.

passing through a portal is not an end of itself
but a passage to a new step beginning
it is the meeting of surface to our frequency over which we go from one state to another as a wave of energy
its unkown to us maybe
and the unknown is as scary as it gets. i know. i dont know.
and i dont know a lot.
so we take our time
and have our own speed
and gentle it along.
we listen to the bird song in the trees
and measure ourselves
and reflect
to slow it down for time to be and time to pass and time to feel and time to know
what we dont know
and the more we do know
the slower we must learn
and the bigger the steps become when they arrive
from our learning.
i can hear clues...that are cues...
the sound like a freezer running
the sound of the high tone
the sound of the stars whispering
come to us, we are here.
and we are here, too.
here is there
and here is everywhere.
and we are.

the wind that opened your kitchen door
remember?
is your friend.
you can be as one and join.

you dont have to stop being.
so the angel dancing that you see when you hold open your hand
is yourself.

after you arrive on your next step
you will see that you will not need the black cat i sent you some months before, anymore;
as you will smile and know something more.
looking back it will show as a signpost to where you are newly there.

when you want to swim in a river
you test how cold the water is
and you balk.
but as the man says, its alright once you're in.
no one is pushing. you get to choose your moment. or not.
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Re: Illusion

#107
yes i see.
perhaps your use of the word meadow is a personal close one to describe what you define well above.
words define us as they are, as we are educated to understand them.
the huge waterfall of pure energy is at my back these days
i am learning
i am carried along by its movement
not riding
being
i meet energy
what of it shall i know to be if i do?

this is not the final step of my journey
i am no longer troubled by made visitors
and i know one serious spirit from before


there were gone times when simple folk lived in winters by their tale of woe
and saw matters shrinking, closing down in cold and ice and snow
and in the moment of the minute in the hour last to just a single breath
they saw him looking at them at their rendezvous with death
so they frozen came to know alone as is the only unknown fear
their ends seen and measured each their price to pay with dear
now; snow melting in my blue hand i cannot feel yet feel all of me is lost
make me clean as pure fine can be that I stand over meeting any cost.
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Re: Illusion

#108
Beautiful.
Yes. The word meadow evolved. It was the only description that was apt at the time.
Still is. Wild and not ordered. Beautiful in it's simplicity.
Tawmeeleus. Uriel. Pegasus and Maya.
They have been with me since the beginning of time.
LOve Cheeneka x

Re: Illusion

#109
Hello.

Just sorted this out now...

How the vortex NOW travel works:-

Based on the Coriolis Effect.

Bang in the destination you want. In NOW time. Not visual light traveled time.*

Find a paired electron there. The number 3 ( from zero to 3 to make a 3D tetrahedron in relative spacetime) is best if you can as it triangulates the 3D destination so you land the right way up.

Order the transfer of polarised charge.

The vortex will rotate one way.
Then it will meet the opposing vortex at the null point ( equatorial moment) in a 2D disc that reaches the width of spacetime but at a single point in travel.**
Then it will spin out back to reality the other way round.
And you land at the other end, oppositely charged, with no ill effects from the process.

*You need to know where you want to go first. Its no good hoping. A real universal GPS is the best plan.
This can be worked out for each flip if you know the passed time in light speed to the current NOW time point and add in the destination variables of unseen light travel to where you are. A good computer will work it out. You can always test it first and see if you are off course.
Evolved people with the right levels of understanding dont need to do this as the whole package is built into the average brain anyway. So they can think it to happen.

**This all works seemlessly in one event to pass through. Points where you may happen to be on the apex of any Coriolis dont matter, as the entire universe is bent in a spiral anyway. The apex (null moment) happens at the moment of change of charge from positive to negative or visa versa.

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#110
I measured the angles between three mirrors showing the same image across slight variations in relative positions.
The code is that when something is moving, it is a line of energy. It has a beginning, is travelling in the middle, and stops at the end. When it is still, the line adopts a joined form into a slow sphere of the line traveling in an orbit. The line of travel is broken by the end.
Like stretching a bit of elastic until you let one end go.
The point is that there is one point before travel, one and potentially two during, and one at arrival again.
This makes a bit of a mockery of the Young slit light experiment.
Too many assumptions.
Stop thinking of a photon as an item
and instead, only as an event.
then it makes complete sense.
the event is that of release, travel and arrival.
the tradition of looking at things as objects rather than events is neurotic.
a photon is not an object.
its a wave of energy in spacetime.
as such, the electromagnetic tendency is for it to be in an orbit when not in motion. it makes an electromagnetic sphere, and its end and beginning of the wave of energy are joined, rotating so fast, the photon appears to be spherical.
its got no where to go, so it spins around itself happily, looking for many people to appear to be a particle. its not. particles do not exist.
only slow energy.
energy in orbit.
energy with the wave ends joined.
the size of a photon is an exact match for its wavelength / frequency and pitch. surely this is self explanatory?
What we are talking about is the potential release of energy in travel. like electricity along a copper wire, electron by electron. the energy is passed on in a stream, with some slight loss over distance according to environmental consequences and the values of copper.

so the mass of a photon can only me implied as an event in motion.

it is potential.

people get this mixed up with probability.
and there are no laws of probability. because they are always correct; and that disproves itself, as a monopolist law has no meaning.

like saying everything is probable. its such an abject statement it teaches nothing of value.
like everything is finite. same again.
what do things mean???
ask a photon
they talk really simply.
if you get them now.
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Re: Illusion

#111
if i ask a question
does there have to be an answer?
we know its the wrong answer
and the wrong question.

i cannot leave
i cannot ask the question
i have to stay and not ask
they keep me here to not ask questions
they do
them
why not ask?
i cannot
i can only not ask.
they give me all of this
not to do
not to ask
not to answer
they do
them
they give me more
all the time
that there is time
not to do
and i dont do it
there is no time
no time to do anything
to do
time
or ask
or answer
time
in time
or out
their shadows make an illusion
follow
follow
not here
not there
from a
to be
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#112
Recently I described elementary particles as 'slow energy'. why?
energy travels as a wave
and arrives as a particle, so it appears.
when is a wave and a particle the same thing?
that is what I was considering.
so I rather suspect that slow energy
is a wave of energy
that has elegant electromagnetic stability
to run in its own frequency of wavelength
in a circle
chasing its tail
rather like happy dog.
a circular chase so fast
it appears to be a particle
and the application of electromagnetism
in the relationship of circular motion
evolves into what we today define as a particle
given mass by the electromagnetic travel of the energy wave in its own closed orbit
round an illusory point at its centre of rotation.
slow energy defines the arrival of mass when a wave is in a closed loop rotation.
mass from electromagnetic effect
from the energy wave
upon itself.
and the masses differ according to the wavelengths of the energy in closed loop rotation.
where is the Higgs Boson?
The effect of the electromagnetic field created by the closed loop rotation (clr)
or the energy
is hardly upon itself,
but on its local environment
and its neighbours.
Apart from some stability in its state of clr,
the effect is external.
We can subdivide particles as much as we want to.
Energy is all there is.
Blast one particle into another so it breaks the clr and travels as an energy wave.
Fine.
Matter and antimatter cannot exist in the same location without there being instant balance
by annihilation.
Matter is particles.
So...why not just consider that energy, under the Coriolis effect,
has the tenancy to smash into itself
as the rotation or direction of travel
is equal and opposite
in the same location
which understandably removes it from this universe
in which energy cannot be created or destroyed
just changed.
so... if energy is like that
then antimatter cannot naturally exist here
and we should look to consider the moment of the big bang
in which both arrived, so we are told,
in equal sums...
except they were not equal.
Or we would not exist now.
Why dont we think of antimatter as being the norm
and matter being the abnormal?
If the universe before or at the big bang
was a supermassive black hole
into which arrived a single instant-- not a particle-- but an instant event--
of antimatter, being a travelling clr in its normal condition,
at its singularity
this would be more than enough to reverse the polarity of the black hole
and make it go bang
and create the universe we live in today.

The odds of this happening
are so remote
that they destroy the entire prediction of probability
and leave us with only the certainty of a sure conclusion to an event.

This would mean that the entire current universe was spat out of one huge black hole
which is entirely feasible.

Considering the finite potential of the universe,
in a finite act of construction,
with a start and finish,
part of its construction
is that it can only expand
as any other option
does not work.

The moving apart
is not the energy
its the stretching of spacetime
and this stretch
is the real size of the universe
which has a constant.
People love constant stuff.
We are pattern hunters by genetic design.

and no, its not the matrix, or we wouldnt see patterns like this at all.
Patterns as huge as this define our universe,
and this definition would be closed to us
if we were mice in some wheel.

Dont mention Plank time. It is only a name like an hour or minute.
Mere convenience for a shortcut for short time.

so, what can we say?
expansion is essential.
Its constant.
we know this pattern.
is there a third to round it off with?

well,
knowing it helps to see that everything is energy that is either open looped or closed looped.
we see that the distances between galaxies is increasing at a faster rate...
but is it?
the red shift and system of measurement using various aggregations of super nova data
is approximate at best
and dangerously questionable at worst.
let us consider spacetime to be an energy as well.
if this energy is increasing
then surely the addition will have to make way
for a constant inclusion
between galaxies?
so the distances increase constantly
according to the constant production of the energy of spacetime
being poured into the universe.
If it is speeding up...

we know gravity bends light
so light is not a constant.
shine it through water and see.
if spacetime has variable density
which is full of stuff anyway
and light is travelling through it-
light that we rely on to measure distance over time-
and the expansion and age of the universe,
then really, we are far from correct in the data.

it will be much better to realize that there is a cosmic expansion constant
going back to the big bang
and the speeding up
is really due to light having to travel through more sticky stuff
to get to our measuring instruments.
no, light does not travel at a constant speed except in theory.
a theory that has meaning, yes, and relevance to reality, yes;
but only a mathematical truth
rather than a real life one.


the third is that we know the only natural shape is a spiral.
if we apply this to the universe to see what happens,
the entire machine makes sense
we have the cosmological constant
and cosmic expansion
and a universe that is spiral in overall shape.
why?
try any other shape, and it cancels out one and two.

let me know...

this all rather follows the geometry of Sir Roger Penrose's cyclic cosmology.
with the addition of a single event
that took a long time to happen
of a single matter-antimatter event
that reversed the polarity of this universe in original expansion
and took us to here now.

if the universe is cyclic
then
it can be flat as a single photon
stretched across a huge disc.
and still fold back into itself

the point is that a black hole has a flipping point
when it has nothing left to feed on
it becomes unstable
it has a finite sum of gravity
small black hole = small gravity
small pull towards other matter.
huge black hole = huge gravity
huge pull on other matter.
imagine every black hole can sense mass over distance...?

and when they have too much to eat, they tend to burp
in the form of polar energy release
in the energy of gamma radiation.

black holes at the core of galaxies are small ones.
big ones are billion galactic in mass.
these can bend the universe.

and they do
as the first one did
the big one from before.

which rather brings me to consider the cyclic state
being one that has some dull repetition
leading me to think about the why question of existence
appearing to become arrogant
unless we understand the three points
of constancy, expansion and shape.

we are now universal babies.
if we understand the universe as we evolve
then humanity has the ability to develop
based on real measurements
in a reality constantly redefined
by developing understanding of knowledge
far beyond what we are today
to the point where we exist as intradimensional energy
with sentient definition
either as a hive
or individually
beyond this universe
and a few others;
which is pretty attractive, either way.

We have a purpose which we originate
that is not arrogant
that has meaning
and destiny
to which we can aim with certainty.

My opinion?
This has nothing to do with the value of one divine being
or and kind of challenge.
This has everything to do with the facts as;
we are here
the question of what for?
the application of sentient understanding
over corporeal existence.
You might push to say that if the universe is expanding,
then there is only positive philosophy
to support mankind
expanding understanding
by learning
and learning
and learning.

The single thing that is wrong
is to prevent learning
at any positive level
always
as this practice is against the seen rules of the universe
and lets be honest;
who needs to go through another cosmic cycle?
I think the one I am in
is plenty to be going on with thanks very much,
and thanks also
to the divine being
that gave me the sentience by reason
to appreciate that I have a chance to evolve and move on.

This planet is very nice;
there are a lot of other very nice places, too
which are all out there.

Our birth right
is to join in
and have a good look around.
people are held back by the stupid selfish desires of the imposition of slavery on them by others.
limited.
stopped.
ridiculed
disposed of like the snot on a tissue by elitist evil arrogant and myopically ignorant scum who have the rabid impertinence to crush sentience where ever it suits the satanic greed of their paper-thin intellects.

its time to start expanding your understanding
stop being a toilet slave
and know why you are breathing today
and what it means for your tomorrows.
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#113
I have been looking at the illusion of spacetime a bit more these past few days.
So I am writing here how far i have moved along.

Some say that time exists before gravity and gravity is a product of time.
I disagree with this.
Some say the universe is composed primarily of spacetime and gravity evolves from its curvature.
I disagree with this also.

There is a constant I posted before, the Hubble constant, which explains that the universe is in a constant expansion in all directions.
not the stuff in it.
Spacetime.

You can look into dark matter and energy.
Lots to think about there.
but
what I have been thinking about now
is to accept the view that time in space is of itself an energy.
not a wave
not a particle
but derived from something akin to momentum.

light as we know red shifts when an object is moving away from us
which is how the stars are measured for visible distance and we know, as a train does when it comes and goes past us,
compressed in coming and stretched in leaving
that the sound wave and light wave operate the same. blue shift coming and red shift going.

what we are experiencing is a wave of energy in spacetime.

no one considers spacetime to be a material in value. so far. just a handy direction showing the path of expansion into the future.

Lets consider what time is actually on its own. a direction one way, yes.
we can trace it all the way back to the first moment of the universe.
now,
let us think about time as a place and an event.
there are the 3 dimensions of space and one of time here now.
but
none of this would work without time.
time is the universal mesh that binds past, present and future.
time dilation exists in regard to gravity, as gravity is a powerful force to be at in the now.

let me try and think that time is what is pushing the universe to expand faster, of itself.
spacetime is the one way road.

so, as the universe was younger, we can measure the expansion was slower, and moreso the younger it was; starting way back from after things settled down and the first stars were born.

Imagine if the distance out across space time in the future has a direct mathematical relationship to the past.
let us say for example, that P is the past, N is the present, and F the future, leading to S for the speed of expansion.
It could well be thinking about this, that P at N x F2 =S

or some relationship simply explained like this.

where N is always where you are right now. Not tomorrow but now.

so, its always changing and stretching out to add more fabric to the universe.

time is looking at it like this, a material value with substance. something tangible like air maybe.
and space is absolutely full of it everywhere, which would account for the 70% estimated value of so called dark energy.

lets establish a base line.
the past is always less than the future or the universe would collapse.
so the future always has to be more. its expanding. everywhere.
so there has to be a relationship of values between the past and the future times.
this future value
has a value
that makes up the cosmic value of the universe.
dark energy if you like that ugly name.
time is better.

is this TOO simple?
is it trite?
no. the universe is based on a tetrahedral crystal repeating pattern
composed of the point zero
the number phi one
and the number pi two
with the addition of time
makes the four sided pyramid crystal of which all matter is composed as a geometric shape.
how much more simple can you get?
you cant for a 4d shape.
thats it.
its a Fibonacci sequence of continuous expansion.

thinking about this,
the addition of expanding spacetime to the universe would then have a value of substance
not a virtual description of time
but
an energy
the energy of expansion
by original momentum
from the big bang
plus the expansion of the universe by its crystaline structure
from the lesser past
into the greater future.
the past is always getting bigger as we move the point zero or now, continuously into the future.
we are here ->.
so
the future
to balance the equation
has to be getting substantially MORE big
as well
by a factor of time x itself at the point of nowness.
Einstein was into the expanding universe stretching spacetime, but that's not right, as it would mean that the future was less, and that cant work.
( Not to say the universe is infinite. no. its just that the past and future have a direct quantifiable inclusive relationship
that has tangible value
that adds up to the whole of what they refer to as dark energy. which is expanding or getting more as time passes,
measured always from the ever moving point of nowness.)
This also fails to say when the universe will end. but it does tell me how big it is right now. now now now. now.
(cumulatively and from this post, my view is that this is what everyone seems to be yatting on about for a unified theory of stuff.
just those turkeys get fat grants, expenses, offices and food, and I have to live in a box in a hole in the ground.
Nice.)


I think thats about as far as I went with that...

anyway
Delilah says its simple and humans are not thinking outside the cardboard box enough.

which would also explain very simply quantum entanglement.
energy can only change
it cannot be destroyed or created.
but it was created at the big bang into being eventually what we enjoy today.
or injected
or mixed.
anyway, at that time TIME as NOW then-- you see what i mean,
then, every electron was in the same place next to its partner, so created.
i was talking to Delilah and she says electrons are not bothered about time and space.
they only care about the EVENT of their creation.
electrons are here there and everywhere, just as they were in the original EVENT they were made as pairs.
pairs to be noticed and used.
that original event is still going on right NOW now now.
so, although the spacetime is expanding between paired electrons, why should they care?
its meaningless to them where they are.
the question people have trouble answering is
how can they do this?
try not to make stuff complicated. the universe likes simple.
reverse the equation and you arrive back at the big bang.
the event that is NOW.

all time in one place. one event.

now, its just spreading out-- so it looks like to us.
but to an entangled electron pair, its the same event anywhere.
So the PASSAGE of time is irrelevant to entangle electrons, as its the same EVENT they are in.
And as time is coupled to space,
in an expansion,
the result is elegant.

At the singularity of a black hole time freezes. so,
what would electrons do to their external entangled partner if they were inside there?
and it doesnt matter, as its all part of the same event too.

which is great for the Fiery travel portal, 1 million euros each and a one year warranty
just gps the 3x paired electron triangulation you need, and flip there through your neat vortex
of nowness
that was then
as an event
(Roger accepts gold St Pancreas donor cards. pay in advance.)

well, that's what Delilah says, and she is an evolved marmoset so she should know.
she is also particularly fond of asparagus....?
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I have been thinking about the value of time as an energy of itself.
To start, we have the spacetime relationship/balance,
where space shrinks as time increases
and time shrinks as space increases.
(as detailed well by Brian Greene here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1WfFkp4puw )

Motion through space affects the passage of time.

Time is an illusion.
The passage of time is an illusion.
In order for this to be a truism, you would not exist to be reading this now...
So, what illusion is time to us in the 'here and now'?

In my prior post, I was discussing how it could well be that time = dark energy.

Now, I want to add to this idea a bit more
by thinking in more detail about HOW time is added to the 'here and now' and to the past.
The plan is to show that this detail contributes to support this idea
and takes us to move a little closer to spirit being a reality that can be acheived from our human form.

Every moment time passes the 'here and now', I am sure everyone would agree
that that bit of what was the future in front of us
then moves over to become the past behind us.

The time from when you started reading this
to right now
has passed.
Just a few moments...but,
the reading of the rest of this post is in the future.

The valuation of time depends very much on the position of the viewer.
You can look right back into the past straight,
or straight into the future.
Try and see yourself at the centre of the Earth, rather than in a location on its surface.
If the past is located at the South Pole ( for example), you could call that 0 degrees of position relative to you at the centre. Lets say this is looking into the direct past.
If the future is located at the North Pole, you could call that 180 degrees of position relative to you at the centre. Lets say that this is looking directly into the future.

Consider that you are looking out across the equator, at 90 degrees. Sideways to the past and future.
You see the moon at some distance away.
Looking sideways at this moon, at 90 degrees, the moon is sitting out there in space, moving parallel to you from the past into the future. You see a fixed view of the moon in the present.

But because of the distance between you and the moon, the reality is that you are seeing the moon a little bit into its its past. Its real position where it is itself, is a bit more forwards. The light that shows the moon has taken a few moments to arrive at your eyes.

If you get on a spaceship and go to the moon, the rate of travel across the distance of space beween the Earth and the Moon shrinks space and so for you, makes the passage of time smaller and for the moon, bigger. You in the spaceship, move more slowly than if you are not moving because you are traveling across space. When you arrive at the moon, you are synchonised to have the same time.

If you get in a spaceship and go away from the moon, space is getting bigger so time is shrinking for you and increasing for the Moon. You travel more quickly than if you are standing still at the centre of the Earth. The Moon is moving into the future more quickly than you are the further you move away.

Take this idea a bit further.

As In Brian Greene's video, you can cut up the past, present and future like a loaf of bread, into slices.
Eating one slice from the middle, puts you right there and then.
So, how do you get a slice from the past or the future?
FROM SIDEWAYS ON.
Shink space by going towards your objective.
That increases the passage of time (for you). Time for you, passes more slowly.

This is great.

When you launch your spaceship from Earth, you are aiming at the Moon in its past as you see it then.
The closer you get the Moon, the distance decreases, and your time and the time of the Moon eventually merge to being one and the same as the distance becomes zero.

You catch up to the Moon in its future because space has shrunk to zero.

People back on Earth still see you in your past a little bit while you are on the Moon, in the same local time as the Moon.

Brian was talking about the past, present and future all being one thing.
This is where the illusion breaks up.
IF spacetime are one item, as many agree,
then
the future has a tangable value compared to the past and present.

It becomes a type of energy.

Let me think about the future a bit more.
Lets say that the future is as fixed as the past; and the only window of choice available to every human is in the present.

Lets say that I can choose to jump into the sea. I get wet.
Lets say that I choose NOT to jump into the sea. I stay dry.

Two choices.
Two results, but;-
Only one outcome of either choice---
I have made a choice.

The present has passed me by.

I made my choice.

Its done.

How either choice affects my future is the issue of choice.

But the constant is that a decision was made and executed.

Let us suppose that every hour, I jump into the sea.
Or not.
I choose then what to do.
I dont stop doing this choosing.
I go on and on and on doing just that.
After a year, I might get very bored with this plan...

But what I have chosen is in the past, and what is to be has not been chosen yet.

Really, it does not matter which choice I make at all.
It does not even matter that I can choose to choose to choose to make a choice, or any choices, when ever.

Whatever I choose to do (or not choose), is already part of the equation of the future, which comes about in the present, and then is written into the past.

The only get out is that I am no longer here and now to make or not make any choices.

As long as I am here, then a choice is available to make.

How can I get to the bottom of this need for choice in the present?
How can I remove it from the future in order to see what remains there then?
How can I find this energy that I am thinking exists that is the expansion of spacetime and includes dark energy?

I can look simply into the past, and see where my choices took me before here and now.
I can learn what happened to get to here.

I can say that, if I bought a lottery ticket with these numbers, I would be very rich now.
A choice I did not make.
But I could have done.

The single issue is that it never matters what choices we make as far as space time is involved.
We can choose or not.
If we are here to choose.
Not choosing is also inclusive.

This boils down to spacetime being a function not of choice; but of getting past the here and now into the future.

Its a consequence of expansion.

Not choice.

The universe was expanding happily all by itself before humans ever existed. Before you or I were born.
Yesterday.
It didnt need us then.
Tomorrow--
It does not need us to witness its expansion.
it does not need our choices.

So:-
There are no parallel universes of other made choices to consider. Choice is irrelevant.

The bottom line is that spacetime is a consequence of expansion and thats it.
We happen to exist in it here and now.

Like a bacterium in a puddle in a field in Mozambique, for example.
What effect does that bacterium have on the Sun?
None at all.

Its the same for humanity affecting the universe.
We are irrelevant right now, until we learn to travel the cosmos without moving through space time-- just as paired electrons are connected regardless of spacetime-- and we are made from electrons, atom by atom.
Electrons are NOT a consequence of spacetime.
Or they would not be able to be connected with or without reference to it.
I defer to Planck's constant, ^energy x ^ time= Planck's constant...
Which is Heisenberg's Principle....
But
also, Time = ^energy/P.

[ I entirely disagree with this principle anyway, as a wave of energy is in fact, just an open particle of energy as a wave before it loops into a closed wave which people prefer to describe as a particle. Which is why its not a particle until it stop moving. I mean, its so simple. There is no uncertainty.
Time has no meaning to electrons... so...
as I have posted several times before, a particle is a closed loop of energy.
A moving particle is an energy wave which is OPEN and travelling.
Before it starts, its closed.
When it travels, its open.
When it arrives/stops, its a particle.

To quote:-
The uncertainty principle is alternatively expressed in terms of a particle’s momentum and position. The momentum of a particle is equal to the product of its mass times its velocity. Thus, the product of the uncertainties in the momentum and the position of a particle equals h/(4π) or more. The principle applies to other related (conjugate) pairs of observables, such as energy and time: the product of the uncertainty in an energy measurement and the uncertainty in the time interval during which the measurement is made also equals h/(4π) or more. The same relation holds, for an unstable atom or nucleus, between the uncertainty in the quantity of energy radiated and the uncertainty in the lifetime of the unstable system as it makes a transition to a more stable state.
End quote.

> blah blah blah blah...
> These people write like it takes a decade to go to the toilet.<
> see:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1o9ZWqCnKk
> for what these highly intelligent salary takers really mean.
> The final part is their perfect explanation.

Which is why you cannot measure it as a particle when its moving.
The real question should be aiming at aswering what prompts the closed loop of energy to open and travel...
Not the simple answer. the real one from the pint of view of the energy wave...]

Please decide what is right.
Energy has a mass [density], which has weight. Time is energy, therefore time which is an energy, has weight.
This is electromagnetic FORCE. Potential energy.
Therefore dark energy
and dark matter
could well just be the energy of all of time.



Time is an energy that some people seem to be ignoring-- for why? I dont know...
It seems to me that the past that is immutable, is dark matter. (estimated to be 23% appx of the universe)
The future, which is mutable, is dark energy. ( estimated to be 73% appx of the universe)
Plus 4% appx estimated to be regular matter...

Its not the vacuum of zero energy.
Those sums just are so far out of whack they dont count.

These scientists have already answered their own question that they seem to be too blind to ask from this point of view.

Mutable time has the same property as mutable matter.
It is spent energy that has changed from moving to being stopped as matter is slow energy.
Immutable time has the same property a the balance of the original expansion moving into the mutable.
The bigger the mutable becomes
the bigger the immutable has to be to balance the equation.

The outcome is that the bigger the past is
the faster the universe will expand
until it reaches the speed of light
when it will start to spin in a spiral
as it cannot go faster
it changes direction
from going forwards to moving sideways.
Gravitational lensing makes the universe bend.

the equation balances out.
the past - dark matter
the future = dark energy

( the wonder of the here and now as sentient beings--- you have no idea of the relevence of this huge power to BE at the pivot of the balance.)

I have to look into the properties of galaxies that on current investigation dont seem to have any dark energy using the current best methods.

If they dont on proven close analysis, then this time theory will not work.
Or there could be reasons or anomilies as yet unknown for the lack. I have to look.

Anyways,
The cosmic whole is the sum of all the parts.
Which nicely shows the age the universe is going to be from here and now
depending on the immutable past having become static.

To close then, this reveals two statements I am happy to make now based on this theory;-

1/. Time is an energy of expansion, and is really what some refer to as 'dark energy'. This means we can directly measure the size and 'edge' of the universe in terms of spacetime in the future, as in my prior post.

2/. Try and learn more about paired electrons; because as soon as we can travel without moving, then we will be clever enough to learn how to ascend this reality and become spiritual energy without form or mass; or very little mass.

Living for ever? Not right now. Maybe later, when we understand a lot more than we do today, and can deal with the concept without thinking that we will not age or change over spacetime. When we can CHOOSE to ascend into our spirit forms.

I consider that there may be ways that some people have already realized to be able to ascend by certain processes and learning. I tred this path myself...

Another thing: Always wear your shoes outside your feet. They dont work as well on the inside.

Happy traveling, fellow Earthlings.
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I have edited my previous post to make it more holistic as some readers were experiencing heavy static...
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I must apologise.
I cannot condone any idiot who sounds terrifically well educated,
putting forward the super plan
that he is not sure of something
and why that makes perfect sense.

We must be vigorously and aggessively uncertain about this entire concept of certainty, and ONLY enforce the RULE of uncertainty as a principle that will get anyone
who is in the least bit certain
beaten to pulp
unless they ride unicorns through the heavens to go to Sainsbury's and buy passion fruit.
We can PROVE how uncertain we are, and use the maths of others to push it, so we can certainly be really fully uncertain when we dont know if its real or unreal anyway. Or at least, certainly certain, to prove how much we really dont know to be certain; even if it is or it isnt, its really uncertainly certain.

I certainly or is it uncertainly... want to be sick now....
I think it must be all this uncertainty making me nausious.
Like cosmic expansion going or not going. We sit and debate for at least the entire passage of the universe. Is it or isnt it?
I dont know. When we look, it is, and we dont look, it isnt or not. We dont know, so we are certianly certain about it being uncertain.

These punks get paid for this utter, utter drivvle??????????
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I have been looking more and more into time being dark energy in the future and dark matter in the past.

I think its a matter of agreeing that time and space are one item, as many would agree.

What I was reading yesterday was work by Schrodinger and his work in this direction.

It seems that scientists see energy in 2 forms.

Energy that has changed through some action of use
and
potential energy.

I strongly suspect that this simple plan agrees very well with the future and the past, pivoting around the moment of now.
No need for uncertainty.

For galaxies as yet showing no dark matter, of which I have heard reports but have to dig up the exact details; I can only suspect that these are young galaxies, with little past, in the understanding that this is the first idea to check, if the results of the work done to see if this is correct, is accurate.

The issue about checking the age of the (visible) universe back to the big bang:-

I would like to put an edge on this as it seems to me there may well be galaxies beyond (our) view today, and hence the so-measured age of the universe could be out by some degree, so far. In order to add accuracy or check the current accuracy, I would suggest that it is much better to reverse the speed of expansion of the universe from the speed it is NOW according to current measurement today, taking into account changes back along the way (and perhaps the original expansion) back to the big bang.

I do not agree with the plan of the maths model of putting an electron in a box to measure the probability of its position. Electrons are not engineered to be put into boxes thought up my mathematicians to explain their ideas...

The first point of reference is to understand that an electron is not interested in any box. Its an electron, with its own plans and rules. Look at the universe from its perspective.

Electrons having variable energy to strict rules and a maximum amount, in two types of odd and even sums of variation, are particles.

I have the strongest feeling that particles are energy in a closed frequency loop ( string) that have the appearance of a particle, but are in fact closed in their wave form as energy.
When this wave form opens and MOVES from its closed to open state, as an energy wave, of course its impossible to measure it as a simple particle. It isn't there. It's moving in a form of
1/. a point of origin
2/. a process of travel
3/. a destination.

The current thinking completely misunderstands 2/., the process of travel.

More about this (again) later...
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WAVES closed loop and open (loop).

Properties of waves
Closed loop

My 'cello
is a potential sound wave producer.
If I pluck or bow the strings
sound waves are produced
that reach my ear
as you may well expect.

The string vibrates in air
air resonates to a particular frequency
or harmonic
and sound waves are the result.

While the instrument is at rest
it has potential energy stored in a string under tension.
the energy comes from the process of the string being moved
by the musician.

All this is very nice.
Any potential store of wave energy will do the same to the point of production.
By any process.

So
considering photons
electrons
golf balls
or any other moving object
there are similarities we can define as basic truths.

1/. an object requires energy to move it.
2/. If you try and find its location while its traveling from point A
its source
to point B
its destination
its most likely the event of measurement
will interfere with the process of travel
to alter
change
or stop the process
the smaller the object is.

Consider the doppler effect.
You see atrain coming towards you to pass you by.
Its sound waves are compressed by the travel of its action to your ear
so they appear more urgent in tone
higher
quicker.
The train passes you by.
The sound waves from the train's action now appear longer
slower
deeper
less urgent
as the train moves away from your ear.

Allow me to confirm that the doppler effect is a constant in the universe.
Any object moving towards you seems faster
than the same object moving away from you
because of compression of travel.

That is how the universe is seen to be expanding
as its doppler action is proven to be shifting in longer frequencies of light waves
Red shift.

When they come at you, they are shifted towards the blue of the light spectrum.

For light, this is easy to confirm by well proven methods accepted as truisms.

For sound in air on Earth, this is also the same process for aural mesurements.
We are born to hear the nature of this by our design.

What I fail to understand is
that people believe in the double slit light experiment
as a proof of some knowledge
when all it is
is a loop of energy
joined up to form what appears to be a particle of matter
vibrating in its harmonic state
in a single loop at a certain wavelength.

Particles have the confirmed habit of interacting with others.
They affect their neighbours.
In what some refer to as a field of particles intracting in a pattern
they have a static pattern of appearance
whereby they all tessellate
in relation to their wave harmonics
their frequencies.

look at a glass of water.
all the atoms are equally distributed
according to their pattern
of H2o and
plus the temperature
and pressure
and gravity
forces imposed on their location.

A single atom of water
has a degree of stability in its function of remaining H2o
and not breaking down into hydrogen x2 and oxygen x1 atoms.
It takes quite a bit of power to break this bond and reduce water to 2 gasses.
The number of electrons in hydrogen are one. in oxygen, its 4 (from memory).

I have yet to read any sufficient explanation as to why the molecule/atom of water is so stable and requires so much power to break it apart. However, water very easily mixes with other substances like salt for example, which happens with no effort at all by ionization,

Salt water is in fact a solution of salt in water.It has no specific formula , but when salt is dissolved in water it ionises:

NaCl= -Na positive ions , and Cl negative ions

In water it forms NaCl + H2O = NaClO (sodium hypochlorite )+ H2

The process we refer to as ionization is the act of change from two molecules changing into one in this case.

So
why is it so easy to ionize water with salt
and so hard to break apart the gasses that form water?
The chemical bond that makes water readily accepts change to ionize to salt water.
The little loops of energy
that LOOK LIKE particles
are in fact
closed loops of wave energy
affected by the environment they are in.
The can be defined by their wavelengths
and frequencies.
these definitions are also constant.

so now we have 2 constants

the doppler effect
and the definition of wave harmonics that appear to be particles.

shall we try for a third?

Let us consider an electron in a location of NON TRAVEL (closed loop).
It is not moving in a direction affected by any law of motion.
We can measure it and see where it is.
ITS NOT IN A BOX
it is where it is.
THERE IS NO AFFECT OF PROBABILITY. It is there.
The condition of rest of any electron is ALWAYS affected by its closest neighbours.
so
if you want to see an elctron without any intereaction affecting its location
the vacuum of deep space is about the best it can get. not perfect but just OK.

Here we need to define some properties of electrons.
As a loop of closed energy vibrating with its own frequency and wavelength,
you might do worse than see this as a dog chasing its tail.
round and round and round it goes
you might see this as the dragon of the universe chasing its tail.
round and round it goes.
Because its NOT TRAVELING
it has a distict location.
It can be measured where it is.

Now
lets act on this electron and make it travel.
THIS IS NOT MAGIC.
1/. The wave un-loops
2/. The wave travels in response to the direction(s) of force imposed.
3/. The wave arrives at a location where it STOPS TRAVELING and re-loops.
4/. This stop could be any object or measurement.
5/. The electron could simply be absorbed by the object that stops it before it re-loops to appear as a particle again,
like a photon of sunlight hitting the nose of a dog, the nose gets very slightly warmer with the absorbtion of the energy.
Electrons as waves have no mass. therefore they are not affected by time, distance, space, or the action of traveling. A wave is a wave in the sea until it breaks on the shore. The wave energy is dissipated there. The wave is ONLY affected by the imposition of eternal forces of other energies which either
1/. change its tragectory or
2/. change it from an open loop wave in travel to a closed loop wave that appeares to be a particle.

Many experiemnts have been done to explain why a photon of light or an electron in travel always choose the path of least resistance. Some to support the mad theory of improbability.
Its very simple.
Because the energy of travel is constant without any addition
the wave in travel will ALWAYS choose the path of least resistance regardless of direction or origin.
Its only point of reference is the point of the wave energy where that is, at that moment.
so
a beam of light traveling through air
then going into water
diffracts at the point of change of its environment.
it has NO REFERENCE to its intended destination when it stops traveling through the water.
If anyone wants to set up kit to see where the light goes,
guess what?
it goes the way of light in water no matter where your eye might be.
The light beam does not care where you can see it or not.
Those people who think that they have some divine right to see that light because they are looking
are lost to sanity. The light did exactly the same before there were ever people to see.
And will do long after. It did not bake a special cake just for the giddy hypnotists.
They try and make the light go certain ways to PROVE they are right and the light bends to go to their eyes.
Nuts.
Random light sources are random light sources--
not specially contrived ones to support ideas.

Some people have been done by the idea of probable improbability being a law in the action of being proven.
nuts.
They have gone so far along the wrong path with as many people as they can sell their pup to, that they really look stupid.

The third constant is that a wave traveling has no mass as its ENERGY IN MOTION. When you try and see it as a particle to find its location, IT DOESNT HAVE ONE AS ITS NOT A PARTICLE. ITS ALSO NOT A WAVE OF PROBABILITY EITHER.
Its just a loop of energy that is open and in travel.
MEASURING IT STOPS IT AND IT RE-LOOPS INTO A CLOSE ENERGY LOOP ACCORDING TO IT FREQUENCY AND WAVELENGTH.
Waves dont need to be a light year long or an inch long or a nano/mm long.
Why?
Because the total length of a wave
apart form its harmonic definition
is not dependant on itself.
it depends only on external forces.

So it can replicate its harmonics a trillion times +++ when traveling
or just once.
It matters not to the wave of energy
because its DEFINITION IS CONSTANT.
and energy waves are defined differently to other energy waves by their frequencies and wavelengths.

THEY DONT NEED ANYTHING ELSE TO EXIST.

Not people knowing they exist.
Not people seeing them.
Not people knowing where they are.

These idiotic ideas are just humans asking human questions of something that is NOT HUMAN.
The correct question is ONLY based on what closed loop energy waves can be when located or moving.

I cannot say enough what nuts it is to suppose that these particles have some predetermination as closed loops of energy.

The 4th constant:
A wave of energy ONLY knows where it is when it reaches its destination and becomes a closed loop.

The 5th constant:
A wave of energy can only be one wave at one time in one motion of travel.
THATS WHY THE WAVE CAN SPLIT UP INTO AS MANY OTHER WAVES AS YOU WANT. ITS STILL THE SAME ACTION OF TRAVEL UNTIL THE LAST BIT OF THE SPLIT WAVE STOPS, AT ANY LOCATION, AT ANY OF THE DISTURBED WAVES, REGARDLESS OF INTERFERENCE.
ITS LIKE BURSTING AN INFLATING BALLOON WITH A KALEIDASCOPIC PATTERN PRINTED ON IT.
ITS STILL ONE BALLOON.

THE 6TH CONSTANT:
Sub atomic wave energy is not interested in time and therefore neither space nor distance, as it has NO MASS and is just energy as defined above, regardless of where its partner paired electron may be.

In any event where an energy wave meets an event or other energy waves, there will be an effect on the original energy. The energy wave needs only one complete wavelength to re-loop, so if the wave is traveling from its point of origin where it was a closed loop having the appearance of a particle, in its open form, this wave can be divided and subdivided, or added to in strength of energy. The wave does not know the future or what some viewer wants of it. It does what it does. Why people think an electron has some idea of its own is so nuts, its like the story of the Emperor's new clothes.

The plan is to stop people thinking that particles are in some way different to energy waves. More energy in an electron makes it do what? it moves more strongly. with more power.
Its likely to pass on its power as its natural state is one single closed loop OR one wave of energy traveling with the minimum or extra energy. Just remember, any electron has no judgement nor concept of time or space. It is what it is. move it and it moves. measure its location and it stops moving. nothing to do with its potential position on a wave of probability. no.

this accepts the message of string theory only at the extent of closed wave energy loops. the vibrating closed loop of energy. harmonically tuned to its location/environment.

different waves have different frequencies, so appear to form different particles. small waves interact with other to form harmonics of bigger waves. like atoms, the atomic weight is harmonically tuned to the number of electrons, protons and neutrons. I am not too sure about the currently accepted nature of a neutron either- another story, affecting weak nuclear energy.

the way that electrons interact in stable and unstable ways is the thing to look at most.

and the Planck equation that includes energy and time denounces the idea that there needs to be a host of extra dimensions, such as time, which is fine for a 4th. Time relative to space is the same rainbow at the other end. Like gravity and the singularity of a black hole. These have measurement that are finite and therefore easy to make from zero percent in size to any point up to 100%. All of space is not infinite. it is a finite function of its dimension. All of time the same, not infinite. The secret idea is to play with the meaning of the word dimension, so that it no longer is a finite measurement with two ends; but some other form of definition. the point is that strings are waves and waves do not vibrate without definitive frequency, are not random or subject to probability ideas.

the day that people stop buying the nuts of an illusion and stick to the simple facts then maybe they will make some sense of it that stands up to a mathematical proff using the universal numbers of zero to 3 (4 numbers).

i hope its sooner rather than later and i dont have to cringe to butt my head against the wall when i hear these nuts explanations of crazy notions anymore. these bright people are getting paid to sell pups born of a line of pups in the hope that the more people will listen makes it right. its nuts. The entire property of Cern proves the wave energy closed loop and open loop status every time they collide particles and watch the explosive traces as a result of smaller energy waves in open and closed loops. They have no idea of what they are seeing because they are asking the wrong questions.

which brings me back to why its spiritual to be indigo, and not nuts. the voices do not lie. the entire universe is so simple its hard to grasp unless you want a star for geometry and your own lab named after you.
The geometry is simple and constant. take up your pen Rose, and write it up right.
the nuts are bo**ocks.
is this the brightest mind we have to listen to???
Please Roger, help us all. get Delilah to explain it to them so they can see. i am so tired of the wrong questions.
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More proofs that time is an energy.

As i was saying before
dark matter is the energy of past time
and dark energy
is the potential energy of the future
held on to by the single moment of the present.

That would be nice and simple if it was the same time everywhere
but its not.
time has properties the same as any other energy.

its a wave function.

Its finite.

its definable.

it interacts with space and the other energies.

energy as a photon or electron of subatomic particles
dont have mass
no reference to the Higgs Boson.

one proof of time being an energy it that time is relative to any single location in the universe of the viewer.

The use of time with clocks is not good to think about. this is a human application to divide up our lives easily, and has no reference to the universe, which does not keep a fob watch in its waistecoat pocket.

The issue with time being relative is one of space and distance over location, usually a point of view and a point of measurement. you need both to measure anything at minimum. three is more accurate. four is conclusive. the reasons for this is that time dilates over distance depending on what matter is around.

the issue with subatomic particles being closed loops of energy and not matter is that energy acts like the surface tension of water.
it likes to form a surface.
its a natural condition.
subatomic particles (sps) have two states
open
closed
open= they are traveling as a wave of energy
closed= they are in a loop

some people ask why a wave should collapse and become a particle
particles dont actually exist. particle is just a word for a closed loop of energy.

across the universe open and closed sps's are all over the place doing what they do. opening and closing, traveling or being a particle.

the event which is important to see is that in our time
we can witness a particle becoming a wave
and returning to being a particle.
its a timed event that happens and needs to be investigated to see the speed realtive to light speed of this opening and closing.

this event is subject to definition inclusive of time.

what is outside time
is the energy that makes a particle.
the fact that electrons are paired
with paired properties that are always witnessed as being opposites
makes it the truth
that space and time
have no relevance to an entangled pair of electrons.
distance is meaningless.
they are connected regardless of distance, space and time.
so
lets remove distance, space and time
and think like an entangled electron.

how can it exist so we can witness it as an sps
and when its open?
if its not dependent to exist on space, time and distance?

well...
distance is a function of spacetime by cause and effect, so we can strike that out right away.
without spacetime, there would not be any distance.

which leaves us with spacetime.

its not our place to ask why we are witnesses to this event.
we are here as beings with mass and not sps's.
they why of it is our being as sentience in the present.

it is our place to ask what it means.
what does it mean to an sps
for us to witness its existence?
how can we define its existence so it makes sense to us
without needing us to be a witness as to the why of it?

having removed spacetime from the equation
having stated that dark matter is the spent energy of time past
and dark energy is the finite potential energy of time to come
these two sums can be added together to define the date time and place of the end of the universe.
its written. yes. defined. actual.

because time as energy
is finite
its measurement universally
makes a simple sum total.

how can sps's be outside the need to be inclusive in this simple sum?

energy cannot be destroyed, only changed.
entropy is a progressive function of universal expansion
as the universe moves forwards to release the potential of time as an energy in the present
and then puts that energy into what we refer to as the past

our sentient condition limits us to be defined as
always
living in the present.
for us as witnesses, our position can only be to live now,
where ever we happen to be at tat moment.

sps's dont need the present.

they are only affected by the present as they pass through it from the potential future to the past.
they exist as long as the universe exists
and before
as simple wavelengths of different frequencies without mass.

as wave can be compressed into a single point without dimension.
it does not need to be defined by the present or size.

consider the construction of the columns of the Parthenon in Athens.
the masons did not have slide rules or computers to help them get the dimensions accurate
so the height, varying width and circumferences
were all listed on one scroll
by drawing segmented vertical sections shown horizontally.
segmentation is the simple answer
which becomes interesting.

a wavelength does not need to be fully shown.
geometrically, only the tiniest portion of its arc is necessary.
that portion
can be as close to zero
as you can witness.

each wavelength has a different arc
and you only need a measurable fraction of it
to define its complete single cycle.

that fraction is composed of energy without mass
that does not need space or time to exist.
yes, its information
but just any message in a bottle.
all the energies are there in sum total
to make one universe.

and

energy is compressible to a tremendous degree.
it is considered truth today
that the temperature of the universe at the big bang
was at its most extremely high.

that temperature
is a key component
to telling us
where the universe came from.
1 billion degrees or 10p9 K.

so its currently estimated...

using the method of applied logical triangulation (tri),
we have the date of the event in time.
we have the temperature of the event.
we have the appx sum of energy and matter as a total output of the universe.

therefore it is simple to decide on the fourth. the answer.
the direction back to what was before without guesswork or conjecture.

using the tri method again
we have a box with contents
delivered at a place before the start of time
in a process.
time only started after the deliverer
put the box down
and the box was opened.

you can say that you are this and that by definition to choose your vocation
but
genesis was written long ago
and its a pretty accurate way to describe the beginning of the universe
without the need for all the yatt that people stack up these days.

some say it was the random meeting of two dimensions that delivered the box.
that there are more dimensions and failed universes somewhere.

not so long ago it was held that the galaxy was the entire universe...
that the galaxy/universe was constant and not expanding

time comes from expansion that has not happened yet.
it is an energy.
time is the spent, current and potential expansion of the universe
defined by its location where it is witnessed first hand
or on paper.

all the energy that is sps
that was there before expansion
before time
before distance (space)
exists regardless space
but
needs in its definition
the potential of expansion.

energy can be stored as a potential.
when it is released
it needs something to go into
like space.

it is true to say that the entire potential universe
was held in a pin point
at 1 billion degrees
at absolutely exact measurements
or we would not be here.

needless to say this has implications as to what is not here in parallel or is and was lost by differences.
but these directions of thought are not helpful in our definition of here now.

quantum entanglement proves the original singularity of the big bang
at which
before expansion
time did not exist
as expansion of the universe was only a potential.

we are still in the big bang
past, present and future.
nothing is written for what our future will be
as sps's dont need to do that to exist.
its a release of potential energy that is yet to happen.

which rather gets rid of a lot of yat that people talk about and postulate.

thinking about time as human concept
parallel universes
and 11 dimensions...

the trick done
was to use something so simple
it could be compressed into a point
and then
let go
to become us here now.
it was not complicated
but
accurate.

the chances of a random event being so accurate are impossible.

a lot of societies have the conditioning to accept the value of their ancestors and honour them.
i often wonder what the coming generations of offspring will think of the people here now
when they perform horrors and do wrongs to others and to this planet.

everything we do or do not do
echos across the entire spectrum of existence
so beware potentially
as your idea to rob the liquor store
could negatively deviate the course of universal events
and mark you down as less than sentient
so maybe your coming children will have to answer for
by their extinction.

sentience is all we have to learn with
our basic tool from which all others arrive.
dont stop learning
learning is human expansion-
or we will all go extinct.

our expansion of learning
defines our future by the application of its potential energy.
so that some time in our way
we will understand
what the universe means
and have the ability
to use entangled electrons
( which we are entirely composed of)
to mark any place in the universe
(with any paired partner entangled electron at a defined location)
in the here and now
and travel there
if we wish to
without moving physically.

but spiritually
this can be done now
with the use of astral travel
out of body
which proves it can be done.

when we can travel physically without moving in spacetime
the illusion of the physical universe today
will be a stepping stone then
in our evolution
without the yatt of power ambition, rotten cults and bad teachings.

the wonder is that this is our single human destiny
that we hold back to accomplish
deviate from
and ignore at our peril

we should consider why this is so
and answer these questions
to see what will be there to meet
when we are able.

not bother an sps about why it has to be human.
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#120
I might like to add here now

that Einstein
accomplished some of his greatest thoughts
considering pepper dust falling in a box of water
riding a streetcar
and seeing a man come down in an elevator....

he was one man with some understanding by simple triggers.

not much yatt in those thoughts...

anyone can do the same.
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look

there are so many people who are reading this thread...
i would very much appreciate if you said hi right here too :)

i am having a negative day today.
too much bad energy locally.

its not mine so it brings me down with it.

or it could be I am picking up on it because of my mood being affected
by people sticking needles in their eyes to prove they can see.

its entirely the wrong path to go down.

i saw a vid about the relative value of hearing a tree fall in a forest.
the yatt went on and on about where and what sound is
from what sound is
to its source of production
and what each person senses in their minds
by its arrival in the brain
and all in between these two points.

just to prove that a tree in a forest makes a sound if it falls without any witnesses...

like the universe was busy before any human was born anyway...
and we know this as we are here now to say
I am.

we didnt get born from a book
or a sporadic event
it took billions of years
for people to be here this moment
to read this
and have some understanding
with or without intuition.

the cradle of sentience
is a positive evolution of learning.
asking the wrong questions will give the right answer to those wrong questions
if we prove the connection mathematically.

we can look back at great people in our recent past
who did their best to answer questions
with what they had around them then.

it seems that even with the best intentions
people are limited by their knowledge, tools and thoughts.

but

there is one item that might be unlimited...

imagination.

imagine
you are suddenly woken in your bedroom
all seems normal but feels wrong.
you get up
the curtains are closed
you open the door
and step out into a filed of wild flowers and grasses
under a sky with two suns
and two moons

just a tiny story.

but while you are at that place
you might think about how to get home again
is it s dream?
is it real?
is it fake?
what is it?

you try and think about the part of the time between when you went to sleep
at home and all was normal
and now.
to see if there might be any clues to look into for an answer.

you ask yourself questions
how did I get here?
how can I get home?
better to ask
why am I here?
better still
what am I doing here?
and better too
what can I do while I am here
that I cannot at home?

only an idiot would say that its open to interpretation if a tree did or did not make a sound when it fell
alone
in a forest.
if it was real
then you must know the fallen tree
and can discuss the event with live ones around it.

dont try and tell me trees dont communicate. just because they are not humans.
oh yes thats arrogant.

its not like us
therefore its not intelligent
and has no wisdom to communicate.
wrong.
trees have been around for a long time on Earth.
bacteria much longer.

they all communicate with their own.
they also respond to their environment
in efforts to procreate and survive.

the genetic coding presented in its physical composition
is a marvel to detail from species to species.
each one has its story to tell.

as a pebble on a beach.
each pebble comes from somewhere else
part of a rock
a stone
a mountain

what story can a simple beach
pebble tell?
ask any geologist...
the information stored there
is a fountain of its history
you can hold in your hand.

you dont need to blow the thing up to find out whats inside
to learn what is means.

the action of being here now
is the event of existence
which then fades as spent energy
into the past.
spent energy
dependent on here now
that was potential energy
stored as the future
of an expanding universe
it can only be here now
in the present
it has nowhere else to belong.

time as a separate energy in space
is expended
from the potential of the future
through now
to the used past.

its all here right now where it happens

nothing to do with knowing what an electron thinks
or an electron knowing what we think
or looking.

at the deepest level
if an entangled electron is seen to change from a wave to a particle
as someone witnesses it
and this is done many times over with different electrons
and includes a control
what does this prove?

ask the right question...

is there an entangled electron in me, the viewer, interacting with the view?

absolutely yes.

then you can ask
is each entangled pair of electrons unique in the universe?
or
are there unique sets of pairs and if so, how many and why.

waves can be big or small
carry different quanta of energy
but still have the same frequency and wavelengths.

they dont travel faster
but they can absorb, store, and give out
different energy amounts.

what does a particle do when it has too much energy?
it becomes a wave
until the wave stops
and the loop of energy forming the wave
reconnects a complete string (loop)
to become a particle again.

this illusion
is asking the right question
not the wrong one...
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#122
I am posting here a link to wiki that explains the scientific understanding of this:

The event at the domain wall.
(i do appreciate a good domain wall, dont you?)

where Roger is sent by the BOSS to find Barry Gene's sister.

What he finds is an expansion that has two sides of an event
a hot side that is under greater pressure than a cool side.

The hot side is from this view, behind the cool side, looking sideways at the event.
The heat is under higher pressure pushing outwards towards the cool.
The imbalance
as measured in some related experimentation at Fermilab
leaves a positive matter residue of around 1% (?)
of quantum particles.

The energy in this universe is the 1% of that event.

The process of this expansion

as explained in the link I mention above which is here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryogenesis

follows the numbering system I descie in my earlier posts in my opinion

starting at zero
expanding using the golden ratio of 1
to make the event 2
that gives the universe expanding 3.

the four numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDmKLXVFJzk

or you can see grandma Ray's first here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMpkFde3euA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3tbVHlsKhs

The cat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjaAxUO6-Uw
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#123
A quick update on time as an illusion.

As I postulate that time is in fact a type of energy
backed by Planck's energy equation
and the universal constant or expansion

3D time is not complaint with the here and now.
4D time is and as some say, it is NOT a block universe where every point has a coordinate in the past, present and future as the be all and end all.

The issue with time as an energy
caused by universal expansion
and the effect of gravity
which is why its going forwards
is rated at a speed.
time past is as I postulate in fact dark matter.
time present is where we get the choice to make decisions affecting the future present
which at any decision made, then becomes past.

time as a POTENTIAL is NOT a 4D block of nodes.
its a potential as dark energy
which is finite
it is made only in the present change
when each person
or any event
has a cause and effect.

its got very little to do with any law of probability.
let me ask you
if you gamble on roulette
the chance of getting a zero outcome
is one of 37.
this simple allusion is a law of probability.
it works forwards and backwards
just as any law of physics works forwards and backwards
if the universe is expanding or contracting.

you can make any function of probability into a law and prove it.
then
it becomes a probability wave
with potential outcomes in a pattern you can describe.

the issue is that this application of probability as a process
is utterly worthless.
it has function
but no form.

its like processing a person in a court of law as a simple statistic
which judges refer to
as
disposal
like a bag of garbage.
thats how much respect these worshipful icons have
for the common person.
they are garbage to these elitists.

my view is that any person is not garbage

i deny their attitude
why?
because I choose to.
i change my future
and invoke the potential
of time
over process
to demand freedom of existence.
form designed with a pattern of a function
in a conscious choice of decision.

and

the issue with measurement of particles and waves
in Young's double slit experiment

is NOT decided by being measured or not.

look at the experiment this way;

you have a barrier with 2 slits in it.
the wave of energy
passes through both slits
then
it arrives at the view plate
as a particle

lets see why

mostly its near the centre line
less often towards the extremes.

why does the wave NOT collapse when it passes through the two slits?

well

sometimes it DOES.
they dont dwell on that one.

and
is the experiment done in a gravity free place?
in a vacuum?
we know about quantum zero point energy
so there is always SOME energy even where there is no matter as such...

one experiment was done horizontally to the Earth's gravity
and then
vertical to it
and at most angles of degrees in between
and the outcome CHANGED.

when gravity it VERTICAL to the experiment
you get simple particles in two lines on the back plate.

when its horizontal
you get the diffraction pattern.

work that one out then.

gravity affects their stupid probability 'laws'.

and the quantum eraser experiment doe not work vertically either.

so

my view is that they are all garbage
and easily disposed of.
they have not done it right

and push for a fat funding salary for what?
another microwave?

if you seek to measure a wave
the point of contact with the device
will collapse the wave
into a closed loop wave which appears to all these egg heads
as a particle
as it is a simple energy wave in a closed orbit.
so you cannot measure location and direction of travel AT THE SAME POINT OF MEASURE.
what a surprise.

if you were bright
and slowed down the moment of wave collapse
then maybe you could record the event of the collapse
but as it happens in the shortest possible time
and there is nothing quicker apart from zero point energy
you are screwed for that idea.

all their talk and yatt about probability
is to do with where on the wave
the measurement collapses the energy into a closed loop
and guess what?

the electron is losing sleep with worry over this topic.

in order for any measurement to be accurate
each measurement of an energy wave caused by an electron particle
would need to be measured at precisely the same point of the wave function frequency.

ha.
they cant do that one.

so they yatt on about probability like its a bible.

you can cut and chunder means, averages, peeks and troughs
and the results are a pattern of probabilities

which are as useful as a zit in a snow storm.

no infinite alternative universes.
no written futures.
no forgone choices.
all cak and chunder.

with a wave of energy it travels
when something collapses the wave
it closes the loop.

as explained in prior posts here.

so

as SPACE is interdependent on time and gravity

time is NOT just a definition of direction.
no
its a passage of the expansion of the universe
proven by the simple law of entropy
that energy as matter is slow energy as closed loop not travelling as a an open wave
and because the dragon is biting its tail
it acts as a particle.
they dont tell you that the law of entropy was inconsistent.
who built your new car or house?
has it broken down into its component atoms yet?
no
entropy is only a result of a process of construction
it is NOT a law of expansion
or you would not be here now.
and
entropy does not apply to the singularity of a black hole
where gravity is 100%
and TIME is zero %.

how could we see time there as zero % if time is not an energy?
dependent on space being also zero%?

work it out.

where is the zero point energy there then?

lets see something here.

at the moment of the big bang
there was only one wave function of each of the quantum particles.
protons
neutrons
electrons.

which got copied.

the crystal construct of the universe
based on the tetrahedron
and the 4 numbers
is all you need for the golden ratio to copy itself
and
somewhere for something to get copied in a void into itself
like a void for example.
a void at the temperature of absolute zero
interacting with an event
at a billion degrees

the void has no size
except as defined by what something is inside it.
and
gravity exists in direct relation to TIME and SPACE and energy
where gravity is 100%
time is zero
and where gravity is zero%
time is the speed of light.

these are from INSIDE the event, not as from outside
because NOW
is an EVENT
not the future or the past
and NOW
is where YOU are.
not me
you.
i am here
you are here
we are here
here here here

hows that for information here here here here?



what the eggheads should be asking is
why is that absolute zero temperature what it is?

that is a real corner of the box of our universe.

what is the hottest temperature there ever was or will be?

another real corner of the box.

and they tell us that at some degree of process
the universe is flat.

then they say its a pattern on an expanding balloon.

its all in context
and they miss the points of the corners of the box.

zero space time is another.

the sum of time as the potential of expansion of the universe is another.

all these corners

and the 248E

zero one two three.

248= 124 x2

the golden ratio in action.

zero phi and pi and the box.

use the 4 digit universe and so called e248 works simply a harmonic of the same 4 digit pattern.

whatever.

its so depressing
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The creation of new space and time is not being stretched as some think
as the universe expands.

The addition of new distance across space between matter such as galaxies
as the universe expands
is created from zero point energy at the quantum level
which adds also to my opinion that time is an energy
as space and time are completely entwined.

the real edge of the universe is this barrier
where zero point energy exists
constantly popping in and out of existance
until its required to be added to spacetime
at the quantum level
as the universe expands.

the interesting thought might be
what happens when spacetime collapses
as laws of physics work in an expanding and contracting universe the same

to prove this is so.

which leads to the second thought once proven in reverse
that spacetime and the edge of the universe are everywhere at the quantum level
even in black holes where gravity is 100%?

it might be that when gravity is 100%
spacetime (being at zero%) does not require
zero point energy
and so there is no edge of the universe there.

time and space being frozen inside black holes
they hold the universe with all its compressed matter
under the control of whatever black hole
regardless
although black holes do sit in the soup of spacetime looking from the outside.

looking forwards

it may well be that when all the energy of the universe is compressed into black holes
as is often considered as one ending option
the big crunch
spacetime no longer exists
and therefore the laws of physics are not broken
but set aside in extremis
while gravity decides what to eat next
or maybe it reaches a state of imbalance
where it eats itself.

the edge of the universe
being everywhere that there is spacetime and energy and matter
on a quantum sub atomic level
is the real mirror of existance.

this is really to my mind
the one area of interest for dimensional investigation
which is nothing to do with string theory and 11 dimensions
which in my view is so barking that it makes no sense
answering questions based on ideas that are not the best ones.
its all probably very improbable.
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#125
Obviously time is an illusion it's man made so we have some form of reference but you now that reason why but as a reference it could also be described as a tree with branches going off in different directions

Re: Illusion

#126
hello.
how are you???
yes.
the expression of local time here on Earth only satisfies our local status for purposes of organisation.

the rotation and orbit of the Earth, Moon and other planets have changed considerably over 'time'.
hence nowadays, we get 365 days a year
24 hours in a day
plus or minus a bit here and there...

the issue of the scientific definition of time
has other implications
linked to gravity
space
and energy.
the expansion of the universe.
Planck time.
zero point energy.
etc etc.

which is/are universal in its/their part/s of formulas.
what is even more spooky is the way it works at the sub atomic level.
where electrons are entangled in pairs all over the universe.
atoms are made of protons, neutrons and electrons.
hence the Periodic Table of the elements...

Helium is wierd as it remains gloopy even when its frozen at almost absolute zero. it has specific properties which i find will be very useful in the application of future tech.
in case of
the containment of superconductors imposed in an electromagnetic field.
ie
it moves with cetrifugal force to be where the most effect is regardless of how low the temperature is.

anyways up

thanks for your interest. :)

the point I was making is that now as in here and now
time is an energy yet to be defined
evolving from zero point energy
and the effects of gravity
electromagnetism
and some nuclear forces.

which leads me to agree with your illusion analogy.
as here and now is the most powerful tool we will ever have.
my opinion...
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Re: Illusion

#127
An analogy for the edge of the universe:-

ok.

In my prior posts
i was writing about the edge of the universe
being
where zero point energy pops in and out of existence here
from the dimension over the edge.
an energy that is in the free (not empty) space within ( but also everywhere else) the internal orbit of a proton particle.
which is everywhere throughout the universe.
even in the vacuum of spacetime.

spacetime...
an equation balanced by the measure of 3D against the speed of time's 4th dimension,
without which
nothing works here.

the slower the movement through space
the slower time passes.
the quicker the movement through space
the faster time passes (to a static external viewer).

so
this is a 4D universe for sure.

you have your 3 dimensions- measurements- of space, being height, breadth and width, and they all work very well to appear in the dimension of TIME, without which they could not exist here.

which is why the here and now of TIME is the most important equals sign going. the pivot. the fulcrum. the balance.

where is its edge then???

This zero point energy
which is everywhere anyway -except maybe at the singularity of a black hole where time is zero-

can be explained like

the surface tension on say,
a pond of water.
sometimes you see insects walk across the water and not break this surface tension.
this molecular bond between the water's surface and AIR
creates a membrane under pressure (tension).
(a detergent such as washing-up liquid or soap
breaks this surface tension of water chemically).

This tension is the difference between AIR and the meeting with the surface of a body of water, like a pond.

Keeping this in mind,
now consider that this difference is taking place everywhere in this universe (thats not at the centre of a black hole).

The pond surface is a picture of a 2D event between water and air, in a 4D universe.

Extrapolate this event so that you see this happening here and now everywhere in 4D.

Consider the universe as the AIR and the dimension outside as the pond.

As space expands in the dimensions of size
more water pours in to fill the gaps to equal the surface ( in 4D).
the holes get filled up:-
gravity working in 4D.

equally, if space was contracting, this can be reversed with the equation accurately so the boffins dont get more warts on their fingers wailing and gnashing at their chalk boards.

you can call it what you like, as long as you get it.
call zero point energy BLAH (B), space (S), gravity (G),positive expansion/negative contraction (E or -E) and time (T).

so you can express this as
S=(+/-E+/-B+/-G)T
or more simply
S= (E+B+G)T

This works here and now anywhere.
And
you can move the point of view ( here and now)
in theory
to work things out
anywhere along the timeline you want.
past
present
and future
at any point of location.

This is useful for working out how big space will be
before it collapses
as entropy becomes equal to cosmic expansion plus all the energy in the universe
and spirals back in on itself.
why a spiral? why not an arc?
because its a 4D event.

hence my explanation of the quantity of 4
being zero, phi, pi = the universe (4)
the simple true maths
of the golden ratio in action
which always produces a spiral geometry.
try it out in any cosmic context...let me know what you get.

so

being that this is an explanation of the edge of the universe
what is there to define on the other side- in the 'water'?

for this, I like to think of something and nothing.
something is dipping in and out of nothing
like a wave of energy with TIME as its centre line of direction
measured up and down
positive and negative
where positive is one one side of the wave arc
and negative on the other.
a simple sign wave from left to right
with a timeline from left to right along its centre.

the really interesting thought is that when it appears in our universe
it can be either positive or negatively charged energy.

its charge is not random
its has symmetry
its so fast an event
it can be either.

which rather explains the issue of entangled pairs of electrons having opposite attributes
because they are made from BLAH.

this is all an illusion as you know
or not
no-really
that means (in my understanding)
we can easily exist outside this universe
just by wanting to.
( see Roger's adventures in ADVENTURES ON THE ASTRAL PLANE).
in a spiritual form
of quantum energy
ONLY when we are clever enough
to understand it...

The point now is that its the universe making the rules of its edge
interacting with the edge
that works like a kind of mirror
and outside
is the VOID
where we get to make our own different rules
to interact with here or not

try and think back to the big bang
and see that the VOID is as important as the universe
because we all need a box with rules
a box in something
or the engine would not start.

One day when we are very clever
we will get to define our own universes
and define our own existences
when we see that there is
nothing plus and minus
phi
pi
and the result...

an evolved expression of the Vitruvian man.
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Re: Illusion

#128
planetzarg wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:19 pm
hello.
how are you???
yes.
the expression of local time here on Earth only satisfies our local status for purposes of organisation.

the rotation and orbit of the Earth, Moon and other planets have changed considerably over 'time'.
hence nowadays, we get 365 days a year
24 hours in a day
plus or minus a bit here and there...

the issue of the scientific definition of time
has other implications
linked to gravity
space
and energy.
the expansion of the universe.
Planck time.
zero point energy.
etc etc.

which is/are universal in its/their part/s of formulas.
what is even more spooky is the way it works at the sub atomic level.
where electrons are entangled in pairs all over the universe.
atoms are made of protons, neutrons and electrons.
hence the Periodic Table of the elements...

Helium is wierd as it remains gloopy even when its frozen at almost absolute zero. it has specific properties which i find will be very useful in the application of future tech.
in case of
the containment of superconductors imposed in an electromagnetic field.
ie
it moves with cetrifugal force to be where the most effect is regardless of how low the temperature is.

anyways up

thanks for your interest. :)

the point I was making is that now as in here and now
time is an energy yet to be defined
evolving from zero point energy
and the effects of gravity
electromagnetism
and some nuclear forces.

which leads me to agree with your illusion analogy.
as here and now is the most powerful tool we will ever have.
my opinion...
Yes I agree I note your science orientated like my self but there are things science cannot explain

Re: Illusion

#129
yes true. always there will be other questions to search for a true answer...
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