#101
[QUOTE=Falien;1089767]So you finally came out an admitted that everyone doesn't have a say or choice

At least it a start.
Your attitude towards other need working on thought[/QUOTE]

That was actually just a jab at you, as I don't really care why you were brought here. =)

You seem to be incapable of differentiating between obvious jabs and a legitimate response made by someone who cares(which is not me).

Yes, my attitude toward others always has room for improvement, I'm not perfect. I accept that.

Self-reflection is also important.

To nameless,

Suffering has tought me compassion, that's not what I believe, that's what I feel.

Or what at least I perceive as compassion.

#102
[QUOTE=Nameless1112;1089769]Falien though attaches excess attributes to everyone due to his past experiences with people with belief systems, close to what expressed here, yet distinctly different in other areas. what you are doing it, I can understand, but treating him like that will only do the bad, more than good,
besides even though Falien misattributed you with many things, he has da point,
humans are treated as slave due to ancestor's debt, many from their childhood, some just don't get the chance to draw the picture,
the thing is there is actually no painter separate for the prcoess.
a process is going on, it is the process that paints through you, the ego thinks that it paints, but no one do anything, there is no one separate to have a free will againts anything, there is just one interconnected process one will, this process paints through different parts of the process,

universal energies criss crosses to form forms which rise up, paints, get painted, and then again mix with the universe, infact was never separate,

So there is in a sense just pianting, no distinct painter,

now people still faces a lot of suffering,
does it have a point, if it was some months ago, i would have said the same thing, about how grateful i am, for suffering made me immune to suffering,
but if i analyze a bit complexly i am not so sure, suffering is more like a friend, who beats the hell out of you and then treats you in the hospital,

now that i found i dont really exist, i dont know what to care about anyway,

is there a point or not point, as usual, those words are empty, I just dont know, i dont want to justify by letting my mind make stories, i hate stories, stories are one of the
greatest reasons for all these sufferings by limiting perceptions and all these ignorance and all,

i dont even know what know means.[/QUOTE]

Thxs

However am a girl not a he.
They started that he thing as an attack.

I think one should have a say in what they become.
Not force to be what another tell them to be.

No one has all the answer nor does anyone know what is best for another.
Yet many claim they do and get angry when other don't fall in line

Thxs for standing up for me.

#103
[QUOTE=Nameless1112;1089771]why would i want to be perfect?
Perfect is a severely abstract concept.
What makes me imperfect right now?
What makes something perfect?
When the cultural biases die out, these words seems to hold no meaning.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, at first it sounded as if you were afraid to make mistakes. My fault.

That's right, these words die out. I rather just feel and experience.

Would it kill you to enjoy life a little?

Failen, goodbye, and have a nice day, if you can.

#104
[QUOTE=Falien;1089767]So you finally came out an admitted that everyone doesn't have a say or choice

At least it a start.
Your attitude towards other need working on thought[/QUOTE]

Dude this whole forum indigo notion is like junior college into bachelor's in spiritual giftedness. You being here means you must admit to yourself your own faults in order to become more or better or whatever direction you wish to take it.

my quick prognosis is that you don't even know that you don't know, so know that you don't and figure out what you want for yourself. :)
The Kiosk Is.

#105
Buddha was wrong at what? LOL. I'm curious about that. :) I don't agree with Buddha abandoning his family for his quest for enlightenment. He could have just stayed home and came to enlightenment there.

#106
Vishnu, when the Buddha first attempted to enter Nirvana as The Buddha, he failed and informed his students that his dharma was to continue educating and enlightening in the land of the living. It's obvious if you read between the lines. His statement that another Bodhi would arise was the same. If he'd done everything perfectly, there would be no return. He was amazingly accurate, though. almost 2,000 years before the invention of the Hologram, he coined the concept and it took the world that long to come up with a correct definition.
The Kiosk Is.

#107
[QUOTE=existencebeyondexperience;1089783]Vishnu, when the Buddha first attempted to enter Nirvana as The Buddha, he failed and informed his students that his dharma was to continue educating and enlightening in the land of the living. It's obvious if you read between the lines. His statement that another Bodhi would arise was the same. If he'd done everything perfectly, there would be no return. He was amazingly accurate, though. almost 2,000 years before the invention of the Hologram, he coined the concept and it took the world that long to come up with a correct definition.[/QUOTE]

I was speaking what he was saying just before he died from food poisoning.

#108
The living Buddha, who was a prince in the Shakya clan (hence why many people called him Shakyamuni Buddha) gave up his right to the throne in the pursuit of enlightnment. The story goes that he spent 6 years meditating under a bodhi tree. He lived well into his 80's and it was said that he "laid down like a lion and died". His last words were "life is beautiful." which is puzzling because he spent most of his life talking about how life is suffering and that we live in the land of samsara (repeating suffering).

There are three stages to enlighenment that we know of living in this realm - the first is an Araphat, this is someone who seeks out enlightenment for themself. The second is a Bodhisattva, the ones who won't go into Nirvana until they've helped others get there - their last attachment is this desire to help others. The third is the Buddha, that which needs no body and lives in complete enlightenment.

#109
Nameless1112 wrote:There was no internet at that time.
People had to travel to attain knowledge.
Buddha left then talk to the philosophers,
then got involved with some sages whose policy was 'no fun, only pure self torture', and that was the trend of ascetics,
he changed the trend a bit with middle path,
but whatever, he could come to family after enlightenment, well he did came to meet once,
but the thing is the whole story is metaphorical anyway,
or if it is not metaphorical it is really strange because of the 7days pattern, if you dont understand,
read the story and see how many 7s in there.
Shut the fuck up. Nobody wants to talk to you, you dumbass.
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