Gnosticism is different for every individual. For me, it is just the connection between self and Creator. I'm not really interested in the hierarchy of beings that are mapped out by the different interpretations of Gnosticism. I run into some of them on occasion and I treat them all the same, as friends, as brothers, not above or below my self.
Jesus is being used as the central figure in religion, not just to teach his words as interpreted by that particular system of faith, but also as a baseline of truth to place their own perspective on morality. The Christian faith as a whole is a schism of schisms, lol. Baptists disagree with Protestants; Protestants disagree with Lutherans; Lutherans disagree with Catholics; Catholics disagree with every other Christian interpretation and have systematically wiped out many splinter groups that disagreed with their interpretation.
Maybe you can tell me which version of Christianity has presented the words of Christ, the teaching of Christ, most accurately.
My point is religion as a system of faith has a deceptive habit of becoming the Faith itself. I don't have Faith in religion, I have Faith in God/Holy Trinity. I do not believe that any system of Faith, other than the heart of the soul believing/resting in God/Creator is the perfect system of Faith..
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Why do you find it strange that Lucifer is considered evil and against God? I'm just trying to get a better understanding of your viewpoint because I'm curious about a couple of things.
You said you are a gnostic. I think gnostics have some interesting views about God, though many differ from those of Christians. The world "Christian" was based on Christ. So, yes, Christ wasn't a "Christian," but His teachings are what Christianity is - - coupled with the historical events of that time and the faith He has instilled in many.
What is the gnostics' view of Lucifer? Who do they believe Jesus Christ was? What do gnostics believe brought evil into the world?
I'm going to explain a few things from a biblical perspective to help everyone understand the beliefs behind that viewpoint:
According to the Bible, God did not give Lucifer the Earth. Lucifer had freewill because this was something God granted angels and humans. Even though Lucifer was then a fallen angel (a demon), he still retained freewill because it was the law of God that all celestial beings, and human beings, have that. The reason being, without freewill, all beings created by God would not think for themselves. This is not what God intended. It was not part of his sharing divine love.
Unfortunately, Lucifer did not use freewill the way God intended, therefore he fell from grace. It was Lucifer's decision to do so, not God's. Lucifer wanted to be God, and because he knew he couldn't, he became angered and rebelled. He lured many other angels to join his side, and they fell from grace with him as a result.
Lucifer later became known as Satan. After the fall of man (the Garden of Eden), Satan took the earth of his dominion via freewill. Jesus died to give us the gift of salvation, but Satan still has freewill through divine law. We have been given a gift from Christ and must use it to resist Satan until the second coming of Christ for the final defeat.
What is your take on this? If you don't believe Lucifer is evil, then who or what is responsible for bringing evil into the world?
I have also interracted with Lucifer. He appeared to me in a vivid dream and, yes, was very nice when he approached me. An angel from God warned me in that dream that Lucifer was watching me and to be careful.
Lucifer asked me to join his side, and when I said I wouldn't and calmly asked him to leave in the name of Jesus Christ, he screamed in fury and sent a TON of negative energy at me, then disappeared. He then immediately sent about four or five other demons to attack me. I also rebuked them in the name of Christ and they fled FAST!!
I haven't encountered him since. I believe that when he found out that I knew he was deceiving me, he showed his true side - - evil.
I welcome everyone's thoughts about all I've said here.[/QUOTE]